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NormaJeane

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It seems like prisoners sentenced to death will get the best death. The execution use to take 12 minutes. Poison injections of three different substances are injected intravenously in the prisoner. 1. Sleeping medication makes the prisoner unconscious. 2. Muscle relaxants will stop the breathing and will prevent spasms when death occurs. 3. The third substance will stop the heart. But sometimes the execution fails. For example, it took 43 minutes before a condemned had a myocardial infarction.

Nembutal is the best euthanasia drug and comes closest to the concept of a peaceful pill. Nembutal has the highest rating of reliability and peacefullness. But Nembutal is disappearing from the market, now used by vets and makes it increasingly difficult to access.

People who are not criminal have to pay for euthanasia if they want to die with dignity. Natrium pentobarbital will make the patient fall asleep and death occurs in 30 minutes. But in every fourth cases of physician-assisted suicide complications occur. For example, one death took longer than 9 hours and another patient woke up 65 hours after ingesting a lethal dose of barbiturates. Sometimes the physician-assisted suicide will transform into euthanasia.

We are all going to die some day. Can a combination of methods be the best way to die? How do you want to end your life?
 
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ShutUpEli

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Apr 6, 2021
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As quickly as possible. I don't trust any pill or substance that I have to ingest bc it always seems to be different depending on the person, and I'd hate to get myself to excited to leave only to find out I threw it up in my sleep and I'm still here. If I had the option, I'd have someone shoot me in the back of the head, as that's the most critical spot you could hit and would kill you for certain.
 
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Prefer to Gary Gilmore it if a prisoner.
 
Somage

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I have got sn and meto along with tagamet and propranolol but would prefer nembutal.
 
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LONE WOLF.

LONE WOLF.

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Prisoners do not deserve a peaceful death in any way! They should die the way they killed their victims then buried upside down in unconsecrated ground and forgotten about,no name or number or headstone/grave marker! And The Government should bring back the Death Sentence!
 
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WornOutLife

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Yeah, sounds amazing but I just couldn't deal with person and probably lose my mind in a few days lol.

I would like to end my life while being drunk, probably with a headshot.
 
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Prisoners do not deserve a peaceful death in any way! They should die the way they killed their victims then buried upside down in unconsecrated ground and forgotten about,no name or number or headstone/grave marker! And The Government should bring back the Death Sentence!
1. Everyone deserves a peaceful death.
2. Nobody will be remembered at some point as our graves will eventually be built over.
3. The only one I agree with: the death sentence should be brought back, along with the option for the prisoner to choose it over a long sentence. If you're going to be locked up and give away your freedom might as well have the option to not be around for it when it's over, not like you'd want to live a life after being a convict, not the easiest thing to do.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
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The best way to die in my opinion is the anaesthetic/euthanasia type methods. I heard about it in a documentary for euthanasia where the patient is put under anaesthetic and then they are given the lethal drug and I don't think it takes long for them to pass out. That is the type of death that I want.
 
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GerMann

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(Car)fentanyl and noble gas
 
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NormaJeane

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Suicidefriends, no one should be forced to die of old age. Not all humans have the state of health so they can live 100 years. There are people lying in nursing homes, suffering of pain and disease, unable to travel to Switzerland for euthanasia, so they choose to starve to death. But prisoners sentenced to death can have the best death. All suicide methods can fail. I read about a hanging that failed and the person ended up disabled in hospital. The best suicide methods changes as time goes on. Earlier exit bag and sleeping pills should lead to a peaceful death - it was foolproof - but now this method is not recommended. So how could they suggest this method from the beginning? This means I can not trust anything anyone recommends. No one should have to worry about failure with something so important as their own life. It should be possible to get a syringe or go to a room filled with nitrogen, and then die peacefully whenever I want. It is my life and my choice. Our pets should not be treated better than humans, but does the society not know that humans are animals? I believe this will change in a distant future, injustices have always existed.
 
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Sunset Limited

I believe in Sunset Limited
Jul 29, 2019
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I think they didn't get permission from the manufacturer to use propofol. Propofol is very powerful. Even the standard induction dose stops breathing in 20 seconds. There are addicts who die with 50 mg. Fast boluses are too dangerous. 400 mg bolus + infusion (35 µg / ml peak effect in cortinez model) should lead to death in 5-10 minutes. In addition, its cardiotoxicity is very high. Circulatory collapse is possible before hypoxia. Since propofol is insoluble in water, an oil emulsion is required. It's not easy to prepare like pentobarbital. It's hard to use propofol for euthanasia unless companies allow it.

 
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Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
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Suicidefriends, no one should be forced to die of old age. Not all humans have the state of health so they can live 100 years. There are people lying in nursing homes, suffering of pain and disease, unable to travel to Switzerland for euthanasia, so they choose to starve to death. But prisoners sentenced to death can have the best death. All suicide methods can fail. I read about a hanging that failed and the person ended up disabled in hospital. The best suicide methods changes as time goes on. Earlier exit bag and sleeping pills should lead to a peaceful death - it was foolproof - but now this method is not recommended. So how could they suggest this method from the beginning? This means I can not trust anything anyone recommends. No one should have to worry about failure with something so important as their own life. It should be possible to get a syringe or go to a room filled with nitrogen, and then die peacefully whenever I want. It is my life and my choice. Our pets should not be treated better than humans, but does the society not know that humans are animals? I believe this will change in a distant future, injustices have always existed.
"Suicidefriends" I like that! Hahaha. Agree 100%. Also, It worries me that there are these stories of executions failing or going wrong, it makes me question if there's really any peaceful way to go at all. Why does it go wrong? Are those just internet rumours or legit? Idk. Regardless, I'm sure we can engineer a peaceful death, humans are smart enough for that.
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
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Personally, I don't want my death to be violent or extremely painful. Lived enough of a horror show life and still living with this nightmare for reasons that would cause me to completely eradicate all I tried to show in my life should I exit suddenly. So yeah, when I actually go, when everything is settled and I know I can be at peace with everything, then I want to go peacefully. I feel that going is not just about the act itself, but the way one chooses to exit. Leave any issues or doubts unresolved and they might make those last days and hours most unpleasant psychologically. This can lead to doubts, errors in plans leading to botched attempts with possible horrific consequences, the shit you leave behind for the people you care about etc. Its all about peace, both of mind and body that's most important when one dies. After all, nobody likes to go to sleep with shit on their mind.
 
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I think they didn't get permission from the manufacturer to use propofol. Propofol is very powerful. Even the standard induction dose stops breathing in 20 seconds. There are addicts who die with 50 mg. Fast boluses are too dangerous. 400 mg bolus + infusion (35 µg / ml peak effect in cortinez model) should lead to death in 5-10 minutes. In addition, its cardiotoxicity is very high. Circulatory collapse is possible before hypoxia. Since propofol is insoluble in water, an oil emulsion is required. It's not easy to prepare like pentobarbital. It's hard to use propofol for euthanasia unless companies allow it.


What does this mean...is it painless right? This would be my first choice to CTB and N
 
LONE WOLF.

LONE WOLF.

PUNISHER.
Nov 4, 2020
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1. Everyone deserves a peaceful death.
2. Nobody will be remembered at some point as our graves will eventually be built over.
3. The only one I agree with: the death sentence should be brought back, along with the option for the prisoner to choose it over a long sentence. If you're going to be locked up and give away your freedom might as well have the option to not be around for it when it's over, not like you'd want to live a life after being a convict, not the easiest thing to do.
1, Not everyone deserves a peaceful death, like Animal Abusers and Peadophiles/Rapists, They deserve the most painful deaths imaginable!
 
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ShutUpEli

ShutUpEli

I'm sorry
Apr 6, 2021
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1, Not everyone deserves a peaceful death, like Animal Abusers and Peadophiles/Rapists, They deserve the most painful deaths imaginable!
People like that, while yes morally wrong, do not deserve an elongated, painful death. They are the product of a society with poor mental health care and were left to rot into insanity. Even then, making them suffer until death WHILE dying is an inhumane punishment. Their actions caused them to lose their life but it's not our place to say whether they deserve to suffer for their last few moments alive, if anything, people who commit such acts have such a different world view that we couldn't even begin to try and compare. Point being, no matter how bad someone fucked up, the punishment should be death, not an elongated one. What does that even teach them? That they shouldn't do those evil things? Really useful when they'll cease to exist in about 5 minutes.
 
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LONE WOLF.

LONE WOLF.

PUNISHER.
Nov 4, 2020
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People like that, while yes morally wrong, do not deserve an elongated, painful death. They are the product of a society with poor mental health care and were left to rot into insanity. Even then, making them suffer until death WHILE dying is an inhumane punishment. Their actions caused them to lose their life but it's not our place to say whether they deserve to suffer for their last few moments alive, if anything, people who commit such acts have such a different world view that we couldn't even begin to try and compare. Point being, no matter how bad someone fucked up, the punishment should be death, not an elongated one. What does that even teach them? That they shouldn't do those evil things? Really useful when they'll cease to exist in about 5 minutes.
You've got your opinion,l've got mine! End of conversation!
 
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Prisoners do not deserve a peaceful death in any way! They should die the way they killed their victims then buried upside down in unconsecrated ground and forgotten about,no name or number or headstone/grave marker! And The Government should bring back the Death Sentence!
I think you have a point with that prisoners who killed other people do not deserve a peaceful death. Prisoners in many countries are treated far too good in the time we live in now. In Sweden prisoners live like in a hotel, they have free food, free accommodation, free dental care, free medical care and they can read university courses for free. Prisoners live better than homeless people and some homeless people become criminals to end up i jail. In countries with capital punishment prisoners can have the best death and the rest of us have to pay for a peaceful death. But it has not always been like that. In the middle ages the punishment for theft was live funeral. Witches were burned at the stake. The rich could have a better death, like beheading and the poor and criminals had a worse death, like hanging.
 
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LONE WOLF.

LONE WOLF.

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I think you have a point with that prisoners who killed other people do not deserve a peaceful death. Prisoners in many countries are treated far too good in the time we live in now. In Sweden prisoners live like in a hotel, they have free food, free accommodation, free dental care, free medical care and they can read university courses for free. Prisoners live better than homeless people and some homeless people become criminals to end up i jail. In countries with capital punishment prisoners can have the best death and the rest of us have to pay for a peaceful death. But it has not always been like that. In the middle ages the punishment for theft was live funeral. Witches were burned at the stake. The rich could have a better death, like beheading and the poor and criminals had a worse death, like hanging.
Thank You @NormaJeane :-)
 
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Personally I don't think anyone deserves a painful or difficult death, even the worst criminals. I think the vengeful part of us that enjoys 'getting back' and punishing people is an immoral thing that we'd be better off without. However, I don't expect people to just "not be mad" when people commit crimes, because that's basically impossible. I'm no different, if someone e.g. stole from me I wouldn't take much pity on the thief, I would be just as angry as the next person, of course, and I'd probably want to hurt them in my anger. When I watch videos of criminals doing terrible things it makes me angry. But when you think about it, inflicting suffering on criminals isn't really making the world a better place, it's just adding more suffering. We want to eliminate suffering completely right? That's what I want at least. Punishment may or may not be an effective deterrent from case to case, but I think we need to find a better response, because punishment is suffering, and suffering is a hideous thing (imo). We don't have the solution right now but I think we should be looking for it, and I think punishment is not something we want to keep around forever. Effectively correcting criminal tendencies/behaviour will come down to being able to alter brain circuits, I suspect.
 
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Thank the gods for Death
Apr 23, 2020
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People like that, while yes morally wrong, do not deserve an elongated, painful death. They are the product of a society with poor mental health care and were left to rot into insanity. Even then, making them suffer until death WHILE dying is an inhumane punishment. Their actions caused them to lose their life but it's not our place to say whether they deserve to suffer for their last few moments alive, if anything, people who commit such acts have such a different world view that we couldn't even begin to try and compare. Point being, no matter how bad someone fucked up, the punishment should be death, not an elongated one. What does that even teach them? That they shouldn't do those evil things? Really useful when they'll cease to exist in about 5 minutes.
Birth defects of the brain / dna cause all bad eggs. Its not a choice. Its the Tumble of the DNA
 
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Personally, I don't want my death to be violent or extremely painful. Lived enough of a horror show life and still living with this nightmare for reasons that would cause me to completely eradicate all I tried to show in my life should I exit suddenly. So yeah, when I actually go, when everything is settled and I know I can be at peace with everything, then I want to go peacefully. I feel that going is not just about the act itself, but the way one chooses to exit. Leave any issues or doubts unresolved and they might make those last days and hours most unpleasant psychologically. This can lead to doubts, errors in plans leading to botched attempts with possible horrific consequences, the shit you leave behind for the people you care about etc. Its all about peace, both of mind and body that's most important when one dies. After all, nobody likes to go to sleep with shit on their mind.
Personally, I don't want my death to be violent or extremely painful. Lived enough of a horror show life and still living with this nightmare for reasons that would cause me to completely eradicate all I tried to show in my life should I exit suddenly. So yeah, when I actually go, when everything is settled and I know I can be at peace with everything, then I want to go peacefully. I feel that going is not just about the act itself, but the way one chooses to exit. Leave any issues or doubts unresolved and they might make those last days and hours most unpleasant psychologically. This can lead to doubts, errors in plans leading to botched attempts with possible horrific consequences, the shit you leave behind for the people you care about etc. Its all about peace, both of mind and body that's most important when one dies. After all, nobody likes to go to sleep with shit on their mind.
@avoid_slow_death How can one make peace with everything including their CTB in Those final weeks before their chosen date? This seems impossible for me to achieve and it's not because I am not ready, or want to change my mind. I am scared and have so many regrets from the past. I am sad, I am angry, I have so many emotions they vasilate from moment to moment. Sometimes I feel complete peace about it but it only lasts for a moment, it's fleeting then it's gone.
 
LONE WOLF.

LONE WOLF.

PUNISHER.
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"Suicidefriends" I like that! Hahaha. Agree 100%. Also, It worries me that there are these stories of executions failing or going wrong, it makes me question if there's really any peaceful way to go at all. Why does it go wrong? Are those just internet rumours or legit? Idk. Regardless, I'm sure we can engineer a peaceful death, humans are smart enough for that.
Cyanide capsules? 3-5 second's and it's all over,been around since 1930's!
 
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Nothings peaceful.

Welp, any method, people will come on here doubting and questioning it.

Peaceful is relative. Man, people disregard SN because they assume it tastes bad. People question N, people question hanging, yet there's stories of 6yo figuring it out.

Best way for me would be anything unknowingly preferably during sleep. Unfortunately that wouldn't be suicide. :(
Because suicide ain't easy. Mainly being that it Isn't easy for the mind to go through with
 
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Honestly I think the best death is one that comes quickly and unexpectedly. I'd take a car accident over death row Nembutal. Even self administered N, while peaceful, still forces you to think about your impending death for days/weeks/months.
 
Lynh

Lynh

Lost in limbo
Jan 4, 2020
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Creo que no obtuvieron el permiso del fabricante para usar propofol. El propofol es muy poderoso. Incluso la dosis de inducción estándar deja de respirar en 20 segundos. Hay adictos que mueren con 50 mg. Los bolos rápidos son demasiado peligrosos. Bolo de 400 mg + infusión (efecto máximo de 35 µg / ml en el modelo de cortinez) debe provocar la muerte en 5-10 minutos. Además, su cardiotoxicidad es muy elevada. El colapso circulatorio es posible antes de la hipoxia. Dado que el propofol es insoluble en agua, se requiere una emulsión de aceite. No es fácil de preparar como el pentobarbital. Es difícil usar propofol para la eutanasia a menos que las empresas lo permitan.

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yo he conseguido una ampolla de propofol, será suficiente para hacer ctb?
Y como debería usarlo?
He intentado ponerme una vía pero no logro pillarme la vena (eso ha sonado muy mal, lo siento) pero no se como hacer.
o es mejor el otro que mencionas?
gracias
 
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Jul 29, 2019
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yo he conseguido una ampolla de propofol, será suficiente para hacer ctb?
Y como debería usarlo?
He intentado ponerme una vía pero no logro pillarme la vena (eso ha sonado muy mal, lo siento) pero no se como hacer.
o es mejor el otro que mencionas?
gracias

I don't know about your propofol vial. Is it 20 ml/200 mg 1% or 50 ml/1000 mg %2 ?
 
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