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aufrechtm7

aufrechtm7

Getting through my filler arc
Feb 14, 2026
66
It proves that God is able to create or put humans in a state (shifted, transformed, or whatever else) to have a meaningful and blissful relationship with him without the ability to "rape children" which leaves no logical explanation as to why God insists that it is possible on Earth while he just watches.
An explanation is that our life on Earth can be considered some kind of test and that suffering is an unfortunate fact of reality that also happens to make people's faith stronger.

The further you go down the logic tree, the less coherent it gets and the more unfalsifiable the claims become. Religion by design cannot be followed perfectly and any moral failure, contradiction, or break in logic is explained away by bending interpretations of text or in some cases completely disregarding it.

And this is important to say because even though I'm not religious (I'm more of a deist or theist) I think people should be allowed to believe in whatever they hold true if it isn't at the expense of others. I'm steelmanning it here because I've been down that path already and the best answer for everything is simply having faith.
 
Sunshine

Sunshine

Experienced
Jan 11, 2019
226
An explanation is that our life on Earth can be considered some kind of test and that suffering is an unfortunate fact of reality that also happens to make people's faith stronger.

The further you go down the logic tree, the less coherent it gets and the more unfalsifiable the claims become. Religion by design cannot be followed perfectly and any moral failure, contradiction, or break in logic is explained away by bending interpretations of text or in some cases completely disregarding it.

And this is important to say because even though I'm not religious (I'm more of a deist or theist) I think people should be allowed to believe in whatever they hold true if it isn't at the expense of others. I'm steelmanning it here because I've been down that path already and the best answer for everything is simply having faith.

But the test part falls apart because most of these religions believe that babies go to Heaven immediately without ever being tested. And those babies have meaningful relationships with God in Heaven, allegedly. So what explanation is left for God to allow the most horrible crap happen on Earth while just watching passively? I don't mind your perspective at all. I also think people should be allowed to believe what they want.
 
aufrechtm7

aufrechtm7

Getting through my filler arc
Feb 14, 2026
66
But the test part falls apart because most of these religions believe that babies go to Heaven immediately without ever being tested. And those babies have meaningful relationships with God in Heaven, allegedly. So what explanation is left for God to allow the most horrible crap happen on Earth while just watching passively? I don't mind your perspective at all. I also think people should be allowed to believe what they want.
And that's what's frustrating about it all…it doesn't actually fall apart because it relies on very circular reasoning that's supported by faith.
 

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