Castles

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It scares me a lot of encouragement. Still watching, just to understand the method. Watching the hanged really sucks. Desperate struggle.
It's not a struggle though, once you realize it is only an involuntary reflex from nerve spasms and natural in almost every kind of death its soothing.

From someone who shouldn't be here and has passed out to the point of waking up with a face scar from a snapped ligature after who knows how long "struggling" without knowing it, just know it's about 8 seconds of not breathing and then blackness. You have no idea your body does that.
 
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It scares me a lot of encouragement. Still watching, just to understand the method. Watching the hanged really sucks. Desperate struggle.
Oh the videos suck alright, something eerie about them.
One that will stay with me always was a young girl I believe who was 13, it was all over the internet a year or 2 ago, i don't want to name her and cause disrespect, But she just set the camera up, said a few words and did it, now she seemed to overcome her SI, in terms of she stepped off the bucket no problem.. but the way her body shook as she was hanging haunted me for ages, to this day i will not watch that video again... she was so young bless her.
That's the only video that I've seen such a struggle in.
It's not a struggle though, once you realize it is only an involuntary reflex from nerve spasms and natural in almost every kind of death its soothing.

From someone who shouldn't be here and has passed out to the point of waking up with a face scar from a snapped ligature after who knows how long "struggling" without knowing it, just know it's about 8 seconds of not breathing and then blackness. You have no idea your body does that.
That's comforting to know that you didn't realise your body was having those spasms
 
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Yes! Its like they don't experience the SI, they do what they have set out to do and are done with it. I wish I was that type but I'm the very same as you described yourself!!
Whoops its 7.01 better wait until 8.00 so it's on the hour :pfff:
And look, if we didn't laugh we would cry, that's my way of thinking about the failings of myself anyways
ha ive so done that! - about waiting till on the hr- nice even number-then itgoespast it by one minute- so have to wait till next half hr or something...then you gotta have a pee or something
Oh the videos suck alright, something eerie about them.
One that will stay with me always was a young girl I believe who was 13, it was all over the internet a year or 2 ago, i don't want to name her and cause disrespect, But she just set the camera up, said a few words and did it, now she seemed to overcome her SI, in terms of she stepped off the bucket no problem.. but the way her body shook as she was hanging haunted me for ages, to this day i will not watch that video again... she was so young bless her.
That's the only video that I've seen such a struggle in.

That was so so sad- just cos of her whole story and reasons too, so young :(

That's comforting to know that you didn't realise your body was having those spasms
 
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ha ive so done that! - about waiting till on the hr- nice even number-then itgoespast it by one minute- so have to wait till next half hr or something...then you gotta have a pee or something
I'm glad I'm not the only one haha!! I can never start anything on an odd number, even getting out of bed, if its 7.46 I'll wait until the 7.50... but of course that's to get an extra 4 minutes in bed :pfff:
 
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Oh the videos suck alright, something eerie about them.
One that will stay with me always was a young girl I believe who was 13, it was all over the internet a year or 2 ago, i don't want to name her and cause disrespect, But she just set the camera up, said a few words and did it, now she seemed to overcome her SI, in terms of she stepped off the bucket no problem.. but the way her body shook as she was hanging haunted me for ages, to this day i will not watch that video again... she was so young bless her.
That's the only video that I've seen such a struggle in.

That's comforting to know that you didn't realise your body was having those spasms

I think I watched it. Did she post on Facebook? She had hung herself from a tree in a garden. The last words "Im sorry" I really can't find anything to say.
 
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Oh the videos suck alright, something eerie about them.
One that will stay with me always was a young girl I believe who was 13, it was all over the internet a year or 2 ago, i don't want to name her and cause disrespect, But she just set the camera up, said a few words and did it, now she seemed to overcome her SI, in terms of she stepped off the bucket no problem.. but the way her body shook as she was hanging haunted me for ages, to this day i will not watch that video again... she was so young bless her.
That's the only video that I've seen such a struggle in.

That's comforting to know that you didn't realise your body was having those spasms
Isnt it! I miss BJ fighting me on it which seemed like every post but from multiple experiences you don't feel anything at all after the first few seconds.

Its so peaceful and soothing and you have zerl awareness of any of your SI after that inital black out. It really is peaceful if you let it be.
 
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I think I watched it. Did she post on Facebook? She had hung herself from a tree in a garden. The last words "Im sorry" I really can't find anything to say.
Yes! That is the girl I am talking about. She live streamed the whole thing and at the end you hear her mother calling her. Sad she was only still a child.
 
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Yes! That is the girl I am talking about. She live streamed the whole thing and at the end you hear her mother calling her. Sad she was only still a child.
cant help but feel the mother should have been partly accountable-she is still 'looking after' (i'll use that term loosely for that mother) other children!!
 
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Isnt it! I miss BJ fighting me on it which seemed like every post but from multiple experiences you don't feel anything at all after the first few seconds.

Its so peaceful and soothing and you have zerl awareness of any of your SI after that inital black out. It really is peaceful if you let it be.

If you do wrong, it may take a long time to black out ?. Most of them do wrong.
 
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I want to be gone in the next two hours but I keep going through that right now. First it was the bottle of wine i should finish now its the time until my gf is home I can say goodbyes lol its always something. And still it cant be an odd multiple unless 5
 
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Isnt it! I miss BJ fighting me on it which seemed like every post but from multiple experiences you don't feel anything at all after the first few seconds.

Its so peaceful and soothing and you have zerl awareness of any of your SI after that inital black out. It really is peaceful if you let it be.
Your description sways me back to hanging a bit. I have seen similar descriptions to yours but then see so many against it and in favour of SN which made me research that and think maybe that's the better option. But if I have time to sit and think about things I'll have a meltdown and end up calling for help. Hanging as you said, once I've got the right spot, seems good....
Can I ask what happened that it wasn't successful? Please ignore if you don't wanna say!
 
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I want to be gone in the next two hours but I keep going through that right now. First it was the bottle of wine i should finish now its the time until my gf is home I can say goodbyes lol its always something. And still it cant be an odd multiple unless 5
I just keep writing final notes- ive now written hundreds of pages (not kidding) could be a book -pretty sad book though-not sure anyone would read it
 
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I want to be gone in the next two hours but I keep going through that right now. First it was the bottle of wine i should finish now its the time until my gf is home I can say goodbyes lol its always something. And still it cant be an odd multiple unless 5

Dude, are you going? I hope everything will be as planned. Lots of love.
 
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cant help but feel the mother should have been partly accountable-she is still 'looking after' (i'll use that term loosely for that mother) other children!!
You are kidding me!!! She still has those other kids? Now that is a shame.... I seen that girls youtube videos and her living conditions were awful for children, in my opinion anyways. The bedroom had a hole in the wall which connected to outside so I can imagine how cold and damp it was....ugh how sad!!! :aw:
I want to be gone in the next two hours but I keep going through that right now. First it was the bottle of wine i should finish now its the time until my gf is home I can say goodbyes lol its always something. And still it cant be an odd multiple unless 5
Oh I just seen this, you are preparing to go tonight? I hope it all works out for you :heart:
 
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Your description sways me back to hanging a bit. I have seen similar descriptions to yours but then see so many against it and in favour of SN which made me research that and think maybe that's the better option. But if I have time to sit and think about things I'll have a meltdown and end up calling for help. Hanging as you said, once I've got the right spot, seems good....
Can I ask what happened that it wasn't successful? Please ignore if you don't wanna say!
I dont mind at all of anything my experiences could help people not struggle like myself. Its always been the ligature. I can pass out no problem but my problem has been unsing breakable ligatures with no research. In the past I've used belts and scarves that couldnt support my weight over prolonged periods of time and have broken in the crucial not be found phase.

I keep going back to this method from my proven experience at how peaceful the pass out is.

For anyone reading this, passing out is easy. The involuntary SI is what has gotten me so do your research on ligatures.
Dude, are you going? I hope everything will be as planned. Lots of love.
Ive tried three times in the span of a and ot hasnt worked from people coming home early to whatever else so I don't want to commit to saying yes but I do hope so.
 
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I dont mind at all of anything my experiences could help people not struggle like myself. Its always been the ligature. I can pass out no problem but my problem has been unsing breakable ligatures with no research. In the past I've used belts and scarves that couldnt support my weight over prolonged periods of time and have broken in the crucial not be found phase.

I keep going back to this method from my proven experience at how peaceful the pass out is.

For anyone reading this, passing out is easy. The involuntary SI is what has gotten me so do your research on ligatures.
Thank you for sharing. I always thought using a belt would be what I'd do if I chose hanging, but hearing what you said there I think I'll opt for a strong rope or else a ratchet strap might be the best option..
I'm wondering would that maybe hold better..
 
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Thank you for sharing. I always thought using a belt would be what I'd do if I chose hanging, but hearing what you said there I think I'll opt for a strong rope or else a ratchet strap might be the best option..
I'm wondering would that maybe hold better..
Personally right now i have a necktie in a slipknot around a solid unmovable place. I did my research though and silk should hold whereas polyester and cotton may break at the seams. Im still on the fence because of previous "wake ups" you could call them I suppose.
Personally right now i have a necktie in a slipknot around a solid unmovable place. I did my research though and silk should hold whereas polyester and cotton may break at the seams. Im still on the fence because of previous "wake ups" you could call them I suppose.
From reading though a solid rope or ratchet would work great.

And I'm not trying persuade anyone or anything js my experiences have been so peaceful its why i keep coming back to the same method.
 
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Is everyone pretty set on cbt or does anyone think they have an obsession that they may be able to use to focus on getting well? I feel like I do. I think I need a balance of doing all I can to be ok but then have a good method if absolutely needed, I feel like I am obsessing to much about ctb right now and giving up.

Also I am sorry to anyone who genuinly is too far gone to be able to have a good life, I hope the best for you and that you find peace.
 
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Personally right now i have a necktie in a slipknot around a solid unmovable place. I did my research though and silk should hold whereas polyester and cotton may break at the seams. Im still on the fence because of previous "wake ups" you could call them I suppose.

From reading though a solid rope or ratchet would work great.

And I'm not trying persuade anyone or anything js my experiences have been so peaceful its why i keep coming back to the same method.
That's understandable your on the fence considering what's happened before. Probably not wise to do it if your gf is going to be in the house?
In terms of the silk, I have a silk dressing gown cord... that will probably do the trick I reckon..
But the ratchet strap seems the stronger option still for me
 
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Is everyone pretty set on cbt or does anyone think they have an obsession that they may be able to use to focus on getting well? I feel like I do. I think I need a balance of doing all I can to be ok but then have a good method if absolutely needed, I feel like I am obsessing to much about cbt right now.

Also I am sorry to anyone who genuinly is too far gone to be able to have a good life, I hope the best for you and that you find peace.
If you honestly feel doubt and believe there's a chance than explore that chance!

There's no judgement if not but if you think you can maybe live a good life its worth the shot to try.
 
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Is everyone pretty set on cbt or does anyone think they have an obsession that they may be able to use to focus on getting well? I feel like I do. I think I need a balance of doing all I can to be ok but then have a good method if absolutely needed, I feel like I am obsessing to much about cbt right now.

Also I am sorry to anyone who genuinly is too far gone to be able to have a good life, I hope the best for you and that you find peace.
That's understandable what you said.
You want things to get better but just incase, you want to have your plan set in motion incase you decide you can't take it.
Honestly how I had felt for quite some time
 
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That's understandable your on the fence considering what's happened before. Probably not wise to do it if your gf is going to be in the house?
In terms of the silk, I have a silk dressing gown cord... that will probably do the trick I reckon..
But the ratchet strap seems the stronger option still for me
I meant past attempts i have a few hours right now im putting off for multiples of five minutes lol
 
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I meant past attempts i have a few hours right now im putting off for multiples of five minutes lol
Lol has to be that even number damn it!
In all seriousness tho, I hope my stupid chit chat hasn't taken up your time unnecessarily, especially if your planning to go so soon.. I really wish you a peaceful exit and have enjoyed chatting with you tonight
 
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Lol has to be that even number damn it!
In all seriousness tho, I hope my stupid chit chat hasn't taken up your time unnecessarily, especially if your planning to go so soon.. I really wish you a peaceful exit and have enjoyed chatting with you tonight
Your conversation has been enjoyable

Ive liked sharing my experiences and knowledge of the subject!

And i have a bit if I cam overcome this shitty feeling but either way youve been wonderful to banter with
 
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Survival instinct is a horrible thing. Oblivion is the goal right? So why do we hesitate or make up excuses or not execute correctly? What are your genuine fear and hopes stopping you?

Mine are what if i could get better (wishful thinking that i need acceptance to circumvent), and what if there is something worse after death and not only oblivion, also I am still grieving my life and in those stages i have not reached acceptance yet.
mine is that i'm afraid to survive and my parents will really kill me
 
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Kodama

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perhaps the best behavior against SI is impulsivity ...
 
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perhaps the best behavior against SI is impulsivity ...
I tried to make myself act impulsively, and i was a being a bit, when i first had my breakdown and started to feel suicidal at the start of the year-but I stopped myself just at the last minute. Now I have spent wayyyyyy too long thinking about it & which I could get back to that point of even slight impulsivity. Buts it too late for that now- just a deep rooted - now fairly long held desire to ctb- that why the crisis team are a waste of my time- i dont feel impulsive plus am too damn scared of the 'impulsive' acts- can barely get my head around some of the acts that people do-trains, jumps, cliffs etc-its mind blowing really. And ive been at that edge so know how it feels to be contemplating the abyys.
 
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Arf... I know I can be very impulsive but will I be able to CTB... I'm not so sure. BTW I really want to disappear! Qui vivra verra
 
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I don't have hope anymore. But I do have fear. Fear of the process of dying, fear of it going wrong and ending up paralyzed or brain damaged, fear of my last wishes not being respected once I am gone.
I canNOT lose anymore control. I feel like SI is more of an innate thing where fear and hope are a bit more conscious. I'll only know when SI is present when I'm about to go through with it.
 
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SI, Hope, Fear, Feeling Guilty, Procrastinate... Endless process starting ?!? :(
Not really sure about SI as i didn't try to CTB (i just tested partial hanging to check) precisely because i want an impulsive and efficient first atempt. Am I naïve ?
 
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