Chiisai
To infinity and beyond!
- Sep 1, 2021
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Hi Everyone,
Im new here but I have been lurking in the forums for almost half a year now and it that time, I also made attempts that are not what is in the resource section or is not fully discussed. The reason is that both N and SN were difficult to procure (Government Lockdown and tight checkpoints) and I wanted to have cost-effective and/or painless method because I wanted to CTB sooner (Ironic as its almost half a year now) and I also want it to look peaceful because I worry of my family or anyone being traumatized . However, I was able to have SN shipped from Indonesia recently. Prior to deciding and receiving SN, I have tried other methods. I will now list the unconventional attempts and my experience with it and is up for discussion to anyone who is interested.
VSED
Wanted a painless CTB while making it look natural. Didnt eat and drink for 4 days. Just stayed in bed. Still was able to function albeit at a weakened state. Hunger and thirst pangs were at high on day 2 and its painful but tolerable. Hunger and thirst diminished on Day 4. Day 5 no pain at all but I get tempted to look at food apps and I was forced to eat upon found by family. This method needs solid discipline and resolve.
INDUCING CARDIAC ARREST THROUGH CAFFEINE AND CHOLESTEROL
After starving myself, I thought it would be good to CTB while eating scrumptuous foods. Youre CTB-ing anyway so why not have the last meal with your favorites. Tried eating fat-heavy foods such as burgers, bone marrows, gallon of ice cream and paired with 5 cans of 240ml of Monster energy drinks and 5 caffeine power shots in a sitting. Head and chest was pounding like crazy but was not painful. Was ok after food coma.
Also tried the myth around the durian fruit and beer. Ate 2kilos worth with draft beer(before the ban in checkpoints) and a side dish of roasted bone marrows for overkill, chest was getting sharp and heavy pains after but tolerable. Finally thought it was time. Slept and was ok after food coma. I felt satisfied I was able to finally satiate my indulgence however regret came afterwards that I didnt CTB.
WATER INTOXICATION/HYPOKALEMIA/DISTILLED WATER
Was drawn to this method as its the cheapest/free method next to VSED with a quick effect and doesnt look traumatizing to whoever will witness it.
Also chose DISTILLED WATER as upon researching, it causes hemolysis in blood(only through IV upon further research), no mineral content(faster diluting of potassium in body after extreme amounts of consumption leading to hypokalemia-caused weakened heart) , and somehow linked to cardiac arrests.
Drank 4 liters in an hour. Lie in bed. Extreme headache after a few minutes. Feeling of bloatedness and was sweating cold either from the headache's extreme pain or excitement/SI kicking in. Felt numb, slowed heart, and cold then fell asleep. Woke up with a throbbing head, and drenched in cold sweat. Experience was painful but cheap. I believe drinking a liter more would have been successful paired with paracetamol/ibuprofen to relieve headache.
TABLE SALT
Upon researching, I came across an article of someone passing due to excessive consumption of sodium causing Hypernatremia.
Tried 5tbsp of table salt in a (100-150ml)glass of hot water to easily dissolve the crystals. It was too salty to drink in one go as it felt like my throat was burning and constricting. Drank it slowly for 3 tries in 10min interval each for it to be bearable. Cold sweat and headache appeared after a few minutes. Discomfort/slight burning sensation in throat and stomach, and heart was pounding fast. Tried to relieve the throat discomfort with soda/pop. Was about to pass out when stomach was rumbling hard, headache became more painful, and feeling of salivation became stronger. Rushed to the bathroom and hurled. Felt defeated by SI. I believe it would have been painless and successful if I treated it like SN (NO Sodas and drank antiemetic and ibuprofen/paracetamol).
KOREAN/NIGHT-NIGHT METHOD(CLASPED HANDS)
As the original Korean collar/night night method was difficult to replicate the effects in my attempts, I came across a picture of a guy clasping his hands together with thumbs up and palms outstretched. I tried this version and as I put my thumbs a little above my throat and felt my sweet spot, i closed my palms to tighten it and suddenly dropped on my hand to the pillow face flat to put pressure on my neck. I felt my body going limp and my vision going black until SI kicked in with a body rattle, heart getting heavy, and unconsciously breathing deep to relieve neck pressure. No pains and I believe I need to be drunk to lessen SI awareness. Sadly, no alcohol supplies available in stores. The experience was pleasant until SI kicks in which then you can feel the discomfort from the pressure on your neck and your heart struggling to pump more blood.
TETRAHYDROZOLINE(VISINE)
Did 2 attempts on this.
Bought 2 15ml bottles of Visine original. 1st attempt dranks half the bottle and the rest I poured on soda to drink to make it less obvious. An hour later, my body temperature went down, heart was beating slowly, and was about to pass out. I stayed in bed to prepare for CTB and passed out. Woke up 2 hours later like its my first time having a sound sleep but with a very dry throat which I believe I was snoring while I was asleep(I never snore so this was a first and snoring is attributed to heart risks so I believe this was effective), a cold body temperature, and a slow beating heart.
2nd attempt, I poured everything in soda to make it enjoyable, last drink before CTB. Ended up passing out after an hour but woke up in 15 minutes like nothing happened. I believe ingesting it pure than mixing it with drinks is a lot more effective.
The experience for both was pleasant. No pain, just passing out. Sadly cannot try again for some time as Ive already bought from different pharmacies to avoid suspicion.
EXIT BAG(BUTANE)
I tried the exit bag method with a simple plastic bag and a simple coolant rubber hose attached to a spray can head. Upon going to balloon shops for helium gas and tire shops for nitrogen gas, they were denying me from buying any even if I was making up excuses that I need it for my workshops to show the examples of gas densities and how density affects voice pitch. Since I could not buy any of these gases, I switched to butane in can sprays as these are more available and wont raise suspicion. As I got my supply, I stuck the rubber hose on the can head and the other end in my mouth while the bag is on my head and tight at the neck. As I sprayed, I inhaled from the tube and instantly I get this sort of psychedelic trip in a semi-fading consciousness while also laughing occasionally at how deep my voice was due to butane. Sadly, I only get this psychedelic trips and when I feel going limp, I get this pain similar to holding breath then I gasp for air. It is also becoming unpleasant as you spray more because of the smell of butane and the dizziness associated in the psychedelic trips. I then have concluded that butane is not for me as it is not able to fully make me go unconscious to stop me from feeling the capnic response.
Im new here but I have been lurking in the forums for almost half a year now and it that time, I also made attempts that are not what is in the resource section or is not fully discussed. The reason is that both N and SN were difficult to procure (Government Lockdown and tight checkpoints) and I wanted to have cost-effective and/or painless method because I wanted to CTB sooner (Ironic as its almost half a year now) and I also want it to look peaceful because I worry of my family or anyone being traumatized . However, I was able to have SN shipped from Indonesia recently. Prior to deciding and receiving SN, I have tried other methods. I will now list the unconventional attempts and my experience with it and is up for discussion to anyone who is interested.
VSED
Wanted a painless CTB while making it look natural. Didnt eat and drink for 4 days. Just stayed in bed. Still was able to function albeit at a weakened state. Hunger and thirst pangs were at high on day 2 and its painful but tolerable. Hunger and thirst diminished on Day 4. Day 5 no pain at all but I get tempted to look at food apps and I was forced to eat upon found by family. This method needs solid discipline and resolve.
INDUCING CARDIAC ARREST THROUGH CAFFEINE AND CHOLESTEROL
After starving myself, I thought it would be good to CTB while eating scrumptuous foods. Youre CTB-ing anyway so why not have the last meal with your favorites. Tried eating fat-heavy foods such as burgers, bone marrows, gallon of ice cream and paired with 5 cans of 240ml of Monster energy drinks and 5 caffeine power shots in a sitting. Head and chest was pounding like crazy but was not painful. Was ok after food coma.
Also tried the myth around the durian fruit and beer. Ate 2kilos worth with draft beer(before the ban in checkpoints) and a side dish of roasted bone marrows for overkill, chest was getting sharp and heavy pains after but tolerable. Finally thought it was time. Slept and was ok after food coma. I felt satisfied I was able to finally satiate my indulgence however regret came afterwards that I didnt CTB.
WATER INTOXICATION/HYPOKALEMIA/DISTILLED WATER
Was drawn to this method as its the cheapest/free method next to VSED with a quick effect and doesnt look traumatizing to whoever will witness it.
Also chose DISTILLED WATER as upon researching, it causes hemolysis in blood(only through IV upon further research), no mineral content(faster diluting of potassium in body after extreme amounts of consumption leading to hypokalemia-caused weakened heart) , and somehow linked to cardiac arrests.
Drank 4 liters in an hour. Lie in bed. Extreme headache after a few minutes. Feeling of bloatedness and was sweating cold either from the headache's extreme pain or excitement/SI kicking in. Felt numb, slowed heart, and cold then fell asleep. Woke up with a throbbing head, and drenched in cold sweat. Experience was painful but cheap. I believe drinking a liter more would have been successful paired with paracetamol/ibuprofen to relieve headache.
TABLE SALT
Upon researching, I came across an article of someone passing due to excessive consumption of sodium causing Hypernatremia.
Tried 5tbsp of table salt in a (100-150ml)glass of hot water to easily dissolve the crystals. It was too salty to drink in one go as it felt like my throat was burning and constricting. Drank it slowly for 3 tries in 10min interval each for it to be bearable. Cold sweat and headache appeared after a few minutes. Discomfort/slight burning sensation in throat and stomach, and heart was pounding fast. Tried to relieve the throat discomfort with soda/pop. Was about to pass out when stomach was rumbling hard, headache became more painful, and feeling of salivation became stronger. Rushed to the bathroom and hurled. Felt defeated by SI. I believe it would have been painless and successful if I treated it like SN (NO Sodas and drank antiemetic and ibuprofen/paracetamol).
KOREAN/NIGHT-NIGHT METHOD(CLASPED HANDS)
As the original Korean collar/night night method was difficult to replicate the effects in my attempts, I came across a picture of a guy clasping his hands together with thumbs up and palms outstretched. I tried this version and as I put my thumbs a little above my throat and felt my sweet spot, i closed my palms to tighten it and suddenly dropped on my hand to the pillow face flat to put pressure on my neck. I felt my body going limp and my vision going black until SI kicked in with a body rattle, heart getting heavy, and unconsciously breathing deep to relieve neck pressure. No pains and I believe I need to be drunk to lessen SI awareness. Sadly, no alcohol supplies available in stores. The experience was pleasant until SI kicks in which then you can feel the discomfort from the pressure on your neck and your heart struggling to pump more blood.
TETRAHYDROZOLINE(VISINE)
Did 2 attempts on this.
Bought 2 15ml bottles of Visine original. 1st attempt dranks half the bottle and the rest I poured on soda to drink to make it less obvious. An hour later, my body temperature went down, heart was beating slowly, and was about to pass out. I stayed in bed to prepare for CTB and passed out. Woke up 2 hours later like its my first time having a sound sleep but with a very dry throat which I believe I was snoring while I was asleep(I never snore so this was a first and snoring is attributed to heart risks so I believe this was effective), a cold body temperature, and a slow beating heart.
2nd attempt, I poured everything in soda to make it enjoyable, last drink before CTB. Ended up passing out after an hour but woke up in 15 minutes like nothing happened. I believe ingesting it pure than mixing it with drinks is a lot more effective.
The experience for both was pleasant. No pain, just passing out. Sadly cannot try again for some time as Ive already bought from different pharmacies to avoid suspicion.
EXIT BAG(BUTANE)
I tried the exit bag method with a simple plastic bag and a simple coolant rubber hose attached to a spray can head. Upon going to balloon shops for helium gas and tire shops for nitrogen gas, they were denying me from buying any even if I was making up excuses that I need it for my workshops to show the examples of gas densities and how density affects voice pitch. Since I could not buy any of these gases, I switched to butane in can sprays as these are more available and wont raise suspicion. As I got my supply, I stuck the rubber hose on the can head and the other end in my mouth while the bag is on my head and tight at the neck. As I sprayed, I inhaled from the tube and instantly I get this sort of psychedelic trip in a semi-fading consciousness while also laughing occasionally at how deep my voice was due to butane. Sadly, I only get this psychedelic trips and when I feel going limp, I get this pain similar to holding breath then I gasp for air. It is also becoming unpleasant as you spray more because of the smell of butane and the dizziness associated in the psychedelic trips. I then have concluded that butane is not for me as it is not able to fully make me go unconscious to stop me from feeling the capnic response.
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