Suicidegram?

[Kyrok]

I'm thinking about a suicidegram service.

Let's say you want to send someone a message, maybe a political point, a threat, a sick joke, etc..
You call up suicidegram and one of their registered suicidals is hired to go to the person's door and kill themselves.

How much do you think the service should charge? How much money would the suicidal person want to kill themselves on queue?

I don't mean to make light of suicide - I just keep asking myself: what can someone do with their death? How can it become useful, not be wasted? Maybe killing yourself for a reason will override survival instinct?

 

[TheLastTrip]

Geez, that's dark, lol.

 

[Kyrok]

I can imagine sending a suicidegram to an old boss or girlfriend for example. The suicidegram would ring the doorbell, the person would open the door, the suicidegram would say something like "you earned this" and then blow their brains out.

When your death is too good for them, call suicidegram.

 

[BaconCheeseburger]

I feel like it would just be written off as someone being seriously ill and not taken seriously at all, the same way terrorists are just seen as a bunch of twats (!) yes it's sad and shocking, but noone believes that they were of sane mind to begin with

 

[Kyrok]

But it would have an impact on the recipient. If done in the right way, it would have a lasting effect.

And, it would give the suicidal a death worth something, which I think would help overcome survival instinct.

 

[Red star]

Using peoples deaths as a service.. that's pretty savage.

 

[Schopenhauer]

Even I find this kid of service too morbid.

Besides, you don't have to pay me anything to die. If the pill came with the job, I'd do it for free :)

 

[TheGoodGuy]

What´s up with the troll invasion recently?

 

[JustcallmeChris]

I'm thinking about a suicidegram service.

Let's say you want to send someone a message, maybe a political point, a threat, a sick joke, etc..
You call up suicidegram and one of their registered suicidals is hired to go to the person's door and kill themselves.

How much do you think the service should charge? How much money would the suicidal person want to kill themselves on queue?

I don't mean to make light of suicide - I just keep asking myself: what can someone do with their death? How can it become useful, not be wasted? Maybe killing yourself for a reason will override survival instinct?

What's the point of paying them at all if they're just gonna go kill themselves on command??

 

[Help_Me]

Why not just send a killer at boss or ex gf ? I would be more satisfied if the person I really hate would end up being shot (ofc if he or she deserved it). And btw it's kinda possible to rent a killer in our world rather than making a suicidegram service. Even if it would be possible to start it, the government will put everything to an end next day)))

 

[Kyrok]

What's the point of paying them at all if they're just gonna go kill themselves on command??

It isn't about the money. It is about thinking of one's death as a resource not to be wasted.
Suicide is a huge, powerful act... why not find some way to make use of it?

 

[Kyrok]

Why not just send a killer at boss or ex gf ? I would be more satisfied if the person I really hate would end up being shot (ofc if he or she deserved it). And btw it's kinda possible to rent a killer in our world rather than making a suicidegram service. Even if it would be possible to start it, the government will put everything to an end next day)))

If the person you hate is dead, you're done making them suffer. Imagine instead how disruptive it would be to their lives if every couple months a suicidegram shows up: at home, at work, during vacation, at family reunion, dates, etc.. Hound them for years with suicidegrams.

 

[Kyrok]

What´s up with the troll invasion recently?

I'm sorry I don't conform to your picture of suicide. Please don't be insulting. I'm really concerned about this.

 

[Schopenhauer]

If the person you hate is dead, you're done making them suffer. Imagine instead how disruptive it would be to their lives if every couple months a suicidegram shows up: at home, at work, during vacation, at family reunion, dates, etc.. Hound them for years with suicidegrams.

This would be used by evil people to harass others. And you're talking about people killing themselves for the sake of harassing someone. If you're not a troll, then....

 

[Kyrok]

This would be used by evil people to harass others. And you're talking about people killing themselves for the sake of harassing someone. If you're not a troll, then....

You're right that it could be misused, but so can anything. I'm not seeing the objection.

This is a forum about suicide, where people can discuss it openly.

So, here is my personal issue: suicide is huge, powerful, dramatic. It challenges the survivors and can change them forever. It is an extremely valuable act in terms of its impact... If harnessed. So, I want to figure out how to harness it: how can the suicidal find use for their death vs squandering it alone.

I realize depressed people don't want to see their deaths as anything but self-nullification, but there are other emotional dynamics possible. Hence, I'm promoting a different way for people to think about their suicide... a good one in my opinion.

 

[Finallyhere]

suicide bombers are technically suicide grams so you'd just be appropriating another culture.

 

[Deafsn0w]

i get the feeling that Pellax and Kyrok are the same person.
He made this thread. I remember this similar thread from Pellax, a psychopath who made a thread like this.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/making-suicide-matter.7315/

Even i made a youtube video about this

 

[Kyrok]

I remember seeing that. But how could someone be a serial killer if he committed murder-suicide? There's no serial suicide, right?

Murder is too extreme. But, I think the underlying idea is: why waste one's suicide? It seems common for suicides to be alone without worth. Why not rethink that? Why not regard one's suicide as valuable?

 

[weedoge]

I remember seeing that. But how could someone be a serial killer if he committed murder-suicide? There's no serial suicide, right?

Murder is too extreme. But, I think the underlying idea is: why waste one's suicide? It seems common for suicides to be alone without worth. Why not rethink that? Why not regard one's suicide as valuable?

What, how is regarding your suicide valuable anything to do with actually fucking killing another person?

Anyway, @Deafsn0w I wouldn't worry too much, doubt the guy is actually psycho just a good troll.

 

[Kyrok]

I don't know why I am being called a troll. I came to this community for help. This matters to me and I don't get why others don't see it as important. Again, it is a human life .... an incredibly significant thing... If you're going to end it, make it matter.

I don't mean to offend. Schopenhauer should understand... I am raising a new question: shouldn't you make your death matter?

 

[Deafsn0w]

I remember seeing that. But how could someone be a serial killer if he committed murder-suicide? There's no serial suicide, right?

Murder is too extreme. But, I think the underlying idea is: why waste one's suicide? It seems common for suicides to be alone without worth. Why not rethink that? Why not regard one's suicide as valuable?

how could you remember that when you only joined on november 5? it happened back in october...

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

So you're asking how much money a suicidal person would want to ctb, and then you're wondering why you're being called a troll? I really can't imagine, but then I am not the smartest person here.

 

[weedoge]

I don't know why I am being called a troll. I came to this community for help. This matters to me and I don't get why others don't see it as important. Again, it is a human life .... an incredibly significant thing... If you're going to end it, make it matter.

I don't mean to offend. Schopenhauer should understand... I am raising a new question: shouldn't you make your death matter?

Making something matter doesn't mean turning it into a mere service.

I don't think you cause offense, just some people here are a little tired of deceit.

 

[Kyrok]

how could you remember that when you only joined on november 5? it happened back in october...

You don't have to be a member to read forum. I've been reading posts periodically since Sept if I recall. I agreed with the general point he was making. Looks to me like he was just trying to conversation going and members freaked out.

 

[Kyrok]

So you're asking how much money a suicidal person would want to ctb, and then you're wondering why you're being called a troll? I really can't imagine, but then I am not the smartest person here.

Huh? Not sure how this relates to money. Maybe the issue here is principle: not squandering one's death... making it matter.

 

[Kyrok]

Here's a related issue: it is often said that people who commit suicide are selfish. To the suicidal person, it doesn't seem that way. Rather, the feel like life isn't worth living, future sucks, they hate themsrrlves etc..

All that is understandable, but anyone who isn't bedridden can do something meaningful: become a volunteer in the 3rd world, help inner city kids, self-emolate in front of the US embassy, whatever. I've been volunteering on and off for years and have made incredible friends from totally different walks of life.

But I think I may be done soon: failing health, exhausted by my job. So, I'm asking: how does one make one's suicide matter? Personally, I can see my suicide helping to affect legislation. But others? What can YOU do to make your death matter?

 

[Finallyhere]

Here's a related issue: it is often said that people who commit suicide are selfish. To the suicidal person, it doesn't seem that way. Rather, the feel like life isn't worth living, future sucks, they hate themsrrlves etc..

All that is understandable, but anyone who isn't bedridden can do something meaningful: become a volunteer in the 3rd world, help inner city kids, self-emolate in front of the US embassy, whatever. I've been volunteering on and off for years and have made incredible friends from totally different walks of life.

But I think I may be done soon: failing health, exhausted by my job. So, I'm asking: how does one make one's suicide matter? Personally, I can see my suicide helping to affect legislation. But others? What can YOU do to make your death matter?

Death will matter, doesn't have to be a big spectacle or prove a point.

 

[Kyrok]

Death will matter, doesn't have to be a big spectacle or prove a point.

Well, it will tell your family: fuck you. Besides that, I'm not sure most suicide matter to anyone.

 

[Deafsn0w]

Well, it will tell your family: fuck you. Besides that, I'm not sure most suicide matter to anyone.

you can always write a suicide note to tell them why you feel that way

 

[Xerxes]

Nothing like traumatising someone to prove the point of your suicide. We're not assholes, well some are, but most are just wanting a peaceful exit away from everything that has caused us pain. And to not let others worry about us or be in pain themselves.