I just read an article somewhere "Do you believe in the right to die? You're wrong and here's why" Like motherfucker thousands of people are in pain here and you're there writing articles in your nice suit while drinking your hot coffee. One of his stupid reason was that in the future there will be a cure for all illnesses so that's why euthanasia shouldn't be encouraged. What the actual fuck has this to do with my generation though? Why do I have to be sacrificed to a life of suffering for the ideology of some stupid blogger? What's the next stupid argument they're going to invent? In 1000 years every man will have perfect morals therefore we should stop putting criminals in prison now? I don't want to be sacrificed for your ideals, fuck you egomaniac. Aren't they supposed to be the "heroes"? Because I see no empathy in them
Caustic Cardinals
Enlightened
- Sep 1, 2018
- 1,339
Empathy is in rare supply. Something like 60% of humans are apathetic by nature I'll try to find the source for this.
Me (on suicide forums as a teen): I want to kill myself
Literally everyone: it gets better, PM me if you want to explain your entire life story in detail so I can reply with "it gets better" again!
Me: oh wow thanks I'm cured
Literally everyone: it gets better, PM me if you want to explain your entire life story in detail so I can reply with "it gets better" again!
Me: oh wow thanks I'm cured
MEoDP
Specialist
- Sep 2, 2018
- 347
Precisely. unless this certain person is willing to pull a "good samaritan" and actually offer concrete help to your problems,what they spout is nothing but empty words. Its why I refused to join the so called "suicide help forums" (like that stupid suicide watch on reddit)or calling a hotline. I literally have nothing to gain and possibly something to lose. (i.e getting authorities called on me)
Yea I got over trying to explain my problems many many posts ago. I just want to openly talk and joke and laugh and cry about suicide without people offering help. Writing out a highlight reel of where everything went wrong is fucking exhausting, and it will most likely fall of deaf ears.
While I agree, I think teenagers should be looked at case by case. There are certainly many justifiable reasons for a teen to die, I'm not taking that from them. Chronic pain, mental/physical abuse or trauma, there are plenty of reasons...but do I think a 16 year old who got dumped by his gf should be allowed to walk in a government building and get lethality injected? Ehhh not so much
Lol I'm 18, but seriously the "he's just naive and wants to kill himself for stupid reasons" while sometimes is true, it's mostly a generalization. Most suicidal teens have nothing to do with the "I cut my veins because my boyfriend left me :(" archetype.
You admit it's sometimes true. That is why it needs to get looked at case by case. I did my best to explain I understand a teen can have reasons to die, but teens are much more impulsive. A 16 year old could be 100% serious about wanting to die because of a breakup, but in my opinion, we as a society shouldn't give them our blessing in that case. Which is why I said case by case. Teenagers are implusive as shit, so to make a blanket statement like "right to die regardless of age" is ridiculously dangerous
Somebody can be a teenager and be 100% sure of wanting to die.
And what is a "valid" reason is very subjective, you can think a certain reason is wrong and the other person could be tortured living with it. We should be more comprehensive.
And what is a "valid" reason is very subjective, you can think a certain reason is wrong and the other person could be tortured living with it. We should be more comprehensive.
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I would be like "You wanna die because you miss your girlfriend, kid?" "Come back after 2 months and if you still want it, we will give you some nice helium" and for things like terminal illness I would just give them the exit bag immediately
bigj75
“From Knowledge springs power."
- Sep 1, 2018
- 2,540
the thing is people do not understand what they haven't experienced themselves. It's like a boxing fan who has never had a fight in his life talking shit about a boxers performance. they have no idea the variables and what that fighter goes through. Same with depression. Hell I used to not fully grasp and understand the severity of depression myself before I had it.
It's less subjective then you make it seem. I understand how heavily a broken psyche can weigh on a person regardless of reason...but I can't agree in my heart that a broken teenage love affair is a valid reason to die, no matter how bad it affects you. That's damage you COULD come back from, and even a 1% chance of being saved is enough.
Now if a teen is going through physical and mental hell, and every day on earth is figuratively or literally breaking them down, and they have little to no chance at a better life, that's a valid reason to me.
I'm well aware nobody is right or wrong and we are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to teenage mental health, there should be a intervention if it might save their life. Not everyone here wants to die, some of us just have no other options left. If they grow up in a few years and still want to die, then let them.
You're completely entitled to that outlook. My outlook is, I don't want to die. Life does value, it just differs between people. I don't want my words to fall too far from the reason they were brought up; while we all look at life differently, right to die regardless of age is dangerous and should always be mentioned with a "*" right next to it.
I'm going to be gone in two weeks, but I still lack a "fuck everything anyway" mentality. The world is a beautiful place, it's just not meant for me.
For sure, and I understand where most of them come from. I believe in a right to die 100%, but when you bring kids into the situation, discussions have to be had.
skitliv
Le mort joyeux
- Jul 11, 2018
- 485
Oh c'mon dude If what you say will ever be implemented, nobody is going to respect the "case by case" thing. Months ago a user told me I shouldn't kill myself because my brain hasn't fully developed yet. The guys who will manage this thing will only look at objective data and couldn't care less about my papyrus of good arguments for my self termination at age 14.
Yea well good thing "a user" wouldn't be in control of that option. It would be a doctor or some shit. I don't know, I'm just expressing an opinion, I'm not trying to get bills passed. But it sounds like if you were in charge of it, there would be a lot more vacant desks in class
The human brain is so powerful you can function pretty well with half of it, if you lose that half in young age
You cannot function with half your brain, unless I don't get what you're trying to say.
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/girl-with-half-her-brain-becomes-speech-pathologist-as-an-adult/
We are the best adaptation machines ever conceived by nature.
