Starvation suicide

[sleepy dog]

For you talking about doctors, which I agree with. This link talks about a study done by Johns Hopkins, which has their own hospital and has a great reputation. The study found that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death in 2013.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/new...rs_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us

 

[Trainwreck]

For you talking about doctors, which I agree with. This link talks about a study done by Johns Hopkins, which has their own hospital and has a great reputation. The study found that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death in 2013.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/new...rs_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us

That's not surprising. Hospitals have made countless errors (although not necessarily deadly ones) when I was inpatient, but since I wasn't cognitively impaired, I was thankfully able to inform them that they were about to screw up.

 

[purplemoon]

If my doctor never existed, I wouldn't be on here. He ruined my life.

Yeah, I would do it right now if I knew for sure I'd be dead. Maybe I'll try shooting a lethal amount of heroin while my head is in a noose, idk...let's keep each other posted on sure methods, I want you to find peace too

I am very sad that some idiot doctor gave you a medication (?) that affected your appearance, that understandably would be devastating.
May i please ask, what was the name of the medicine? It's dumb they call it medicine when it hurts people.
i'm asking partly to protect everyone from going through same thing, or heck anyone from taking it and possibly going through similar suffering.

Sad you are going through that.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Just remember that most times it's the entire healthcare system failing and not a singular doctor at fault. I say that as someone who developed crps after a tendon repair(that failed) I had to go through him for the repeat surgery as well due to workers comp. It's never just the doctors fault. They usually have to see too many patients, and like us they too make mistakes. Unfortunately when they do its at a more devastating level than most. The entire system needs a change. Which is why we are all here. I find it repugnant that my chronic pain is a result of medical procedure yet I do not have the right to die with dignity , peace, and pain free. Regardless of the reasons we are here it saddens me that starvation is even a consideration to die with dignity.

You are right. But, there is no worse death than having to resort to suicide because someone else messed your body up beyond repair

I am very sad that some idiot doctor gave you a medication (?) that affected your appearance, that understandably would be devastating.
May i please ask, what was the name of the medicine? It's dumb they call it medicine when it hurts people.
i'm asking partly to protect everyone from going through same thing, or heck anyone from taking it and possibly going through similar suffering.

Sad you are going through that.

All medications do this, it's a side effect of chemicals in high amounts. I was a nursing resident and If you ever see someone on a medical cocktail of heavy drugs, like anti-psychotics, you will see that the drugs have deteriorated their looks. This is a major cover up from pharmecuetical companies. They get away with it because people can't prove the medicine did this to them. The drug I was on was an anti-biotic for only two weeks, that's how I was able to identify that it was the drug.

 

[blue]

I've thought about checking myself into a hotel for a two-week "vacation" where I would not eat or drink anything. I'm a relatively small person, so I am fairly sure two weeks without water would be enough.

 

[Sweet emotion]

After reading all these posts, it seems the only sure suicide is starvation. No one has ever lived through starvation lol. Anyone ever try this?

Do you realize how long this is going to take? People have gone over a month and a half without food. And don't you think people are going to notice you losing weight and not eating? That is an awful and time consuming way to go. Have you ever heard of Louie Zamperinni? He was lost at sea in world war 2 in a rafter with two other people and went without food and water for forty something days. You lose mental function. Your organs start to shut down? If you want to put yourself through that torture by all means go ahead but make sure there is no one there to see you decline.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

After reading all these posts, it seems the only sure suicide is starvation. No one has ever lived through starvation lol. Anyone ever try this?

I like the IMAGE of starving... But (of course) I have an eating disorder. I'm reading this tread while cramming my pie-hole with a basmati rice-N-turtle-beans casserole I just made with caramelized garlic cloves, deck-grilled portabella mushrooms, and candied Brussels sprouts. At 3AM. And I'm about to dig out kombucha I've had brewing in a chest out back. Before work in three hours. I have a better chance of becoming an astronaut than starving myself to death. :(

 

[I’vehadenough]

Do you realize how long this is going to take? People have gone over a month and a half without food. And don't you think people are going to notice you losing weight and not eating? That is an awful and time consuming way to go. Have you ever heard of Louie Zamperinni? He was lost at sea in world war 2 in a rafter with two other people and went without food and water for forty something days. You lose mental function. Your organs start to shut down? If you want to put yourself through that torture by all means go ahead but make sure there is no one there to see you decline.

Well I thought of this bc I feel like it's a sure death, whereas you can live through all these other methods. And I don't eat much anymore anyway, so idk

 

[BipolarExpat]

Seems if one was to take on the probable excruciating pain that this method most likely brings on, you'd have to be very isolated, unplugged and fairly far from civilization.

 

[Kingkelly]

I think some drs should be exterminated

agreed

 

[Morphosis]

Do you realize how long this is going to take? People have gone over a month and a half without food. And don't you think people are going to notice you losing weight and not eating? That is an awful and time consuming way to go. Have you ever heard of Louie Zamperinni? He was lost at sea in world war 2 in a rafter with two other people and went without food and water for forty something days. You lose mental function. Your organs start to shut down? If you want to put yourself through that torture by all means go ahead but make sure there is no one there to see you decline.

Louis Zamperini was a hero. They had some cans of water and chocolate on the lifeboat although nowhere near enough. So Louis was very resourceful; he made raincatchers out of whatever equipment he could find to save rain water. He made a fishing hook out of his lieutenant pin, and caught fish, birds and even small sharks for food which they ate raw.

I've nursed terminally ill people who have lasted much, much longer than anyone thought possible with no food or fluids going in at all. The human body is extraordinarily resilient even when dying. For a healthy person to attempt this would be very time-consuming and pure torture while the body is shutting down, you're right about that bit. The survival instinct and desire to drink water would be impossible to resist for all but the very few.

And if they catch on that it's a deliberate suicide attempt, do they not just throw you in a straitjacket and force-feed you via NG tubes and all sorts? With a needle in the ass if you fight them?

 

[MeltingHeart]

Do you know the story of :uruguayan flight 571? They survived something like 72 days without food & very little water in freezing cold temperatures - though some felt so much urge to eat - that had to resort to cannibalism. I think the starvation/ dehydration route can only ever be considered for the very old and/ or frail- that are will be receiving palative care through the process when they choose to have their feeding tube removed.

Louis Zamperini was a hero. They had some cans of water and chocolate on the lifeboat although nowhere near enough. So Louis was very resourceful; he made raincatchers out of whatever equipment he could find to save rain water. He made a fishing hook out of his lieutenant pin, and caught fish, birds and even small sharks for food which they ate raw.

I've nursed terminally ill people who have lasted much, much longer than anyone thought possible with no food or fluids going in at all. The human body is extraordinarily resilient even when dying. For a healthy person to attempt this would be very time-consuming and pure torture while the body is shutting down, you're right about that bit. The survival instinct and desire to drink water would be impossible to resist for all but the very few.

And if they catch on that it's a deliberate suicide attempt, do they not just throw you in a straitjacket and force-feed you via NG tubes and all sorts? With a needle in the ass if you fight them?

I didn't notice your post & survival story - till just after I had posted one ! Along with some similar thoughts - of which you have direct experience to. If it were easy I think a lot of people would do it- esp. if yr the type to go off food when depressed anyway...

 

[I’vehadenough]

I think some drs should be exterminated

If it were mandatory that a Dr must die if he takes your life through malpractice or drives you to your Suicide, there would be better doctors out there

 

[AgonyOnMe]

I had thought about starving myself as well but it is a long process and it's hard to fight the urge to eat. I do however think it is a great aid to another method. If you can deny yourself rest and nutrients it will make it harder for your body to fight off a foreign substance or even to maintain oxygen levels for survival of a physical......... inhibitor? (for lack of a better word.) I get dizzy when I stand up now and get out of breath really easy so I doubt my body would put up much of a fight with any method I end up going with.

 

[I’vehadenough]

I had thought about starving myself as well but it is a long process and it's hard to fight the urge to eat. I do however think it is a great aid to another method. If you can deny yourself rest and nutrients it will make it harder for your body to fight off a foreign substance or even to maintain oxygen levels for survival of a physical......... inhibitor? (for lack of a better word.) I get dizzy when I stand up now and get out of breath really easy so I doubt my body would put up much of a fight with any method I end up going with.

Yeah, could be. I once when on a bodybuilders diet where I barely ate anything. I was feeling light-headed and dizzy all the time. So if that happened within only two weeks of eating very little, maybe I would just drop dead after not eating for a week? I'm not sure. But I know if you starve to death you will die, as long as you're alone, whereas you can survive a gunshot or a hanging.

 

[AgonyOnMe]

Yeah, could be. I once when on a bodybuilders diet where I barely ate anything. I was feeling light-headed and dizzy all the time. So if that happened within only two weeks of eating very little, maybe I would just drop dead after not eating for a week? I'm not sure. But I know if you starve to death you will die, as long as you're alone, whereas you can survive a gunshot or a hanging.

Yep, and bonus: you can die with a little more dignity by not soiling yourself. :) (although I'd still wear dark clothing for good measure.)

 

[blue]

Yeah, could be. I once when on a bodybuilders diet where I barely ate anything. I was feeling light-headed and dizzy all the time. So if that happened within only two weeks of eating very little, maybe I would just drop dead after not eating for a week? I'm not sure. But I know if you starve to death you will die, as long as you're alone, whereas you can survive a gunshot or a hanging.

I kind of feel the same way as you. If I don't eat, i just get really fatigued- not hungry. I almost never feel thirsty. I just feel like I'd end up passing out - and the worst I'd experience might be a headache.

 

[kkatt]

I'm sure I'm far from alone here in admitting to eating 0-10cals a day for at least a few months at a time. There were the unavoidable NG tube refeeding episodes and bedrest (overexercising stupidity). It's amazing how long you can survive and after the first few days,you don't even feel hungry.
But water seems a lot more important. I may be wrong,but dehydration seems a lot more painful and hazardous

 

[I’vehadenough]

I'm sure I'm far from alone here in admitting to eating 0-10cals a day for at least a few months at a time. There were the unavoidable NG tube refeeding episodes and bedrest (overexercising stupidity). It's amazing how long you can survive and after the first few days,you don't even feel hungry.
But water seems a lot more important. I may be wrong,but dehydration seems a lot more painful and hazardous

Yeah it's the lack of water that scares me in vsed