Venting Someone just told me that suicide is murder

[Loona KLD]

What a big fucking joke! The audacity to tell me that I don't have control over my own body, I really hate those kinds of people. If you don't have anything to say to help me then maybe it's better to shut up instead of talking to me as if I owe you or god something. My body my rules.

 

[dolemitedrums]

Someone is an idiot.

 

[GuessWhosBack]

Trying to figure out their reasons for saying that only led me to laughter. Are people really this stupid that they'd think saying this works?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Trying to figure out their reasons for saying that only led me to laughter.

Same!! :-)

 

[Loona KLD]

Trying to figure out their reasons for saying that only led me to laughter. Are people really this stupid that they'd think saying this works?

They asked me why I wanted to CTB, I told them why, they realized that my situation is actually fucked up and there is no easy solution to it so they tried to use the weakest possible logic

 

[ForgottenAgain]

Well, suicide is murder of oneself. The biggest difference is that you have control over your life and your body so the murder argument makes no difference imo.

Sounds like they said that to make you feel bad, as if you were a criminal for wanting to end your suffering

 

[Loona KLD]

Well, suicide is murder of oneself. The biggest difference is that you have control over your life and your body so the murder argument makes no difference imo.

Sounds like they said that to make you feel bad, as if you were a criminal for wanting to end your suffering

It makes sense but then again why would you want to make a suicidal person feel worst about themselves, isn't that counterintuitive?

 

[voodoo689]

but suicide is a murder, however it is not a crime since the accused will be dead -laughs

 

[potablewater784]

When I think of "murder", it is when someone ends another's life without their consent. If there is consent, then it's euthanasia. In suicide you clearly have the killed person's consent (yourself), so it's not murder. Instead, it's just self-euthanasia.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think you should have replied with a logical argument and asked them who owns our lives then? Are they very religious? I suppose they could say God.

 

[Manfrotto99]

A lot of Christians will say it murder because it's taking a life that belongs to God. However. I would say technically it is a form of euthanasia "the practice of ending the life of a patient to limit the patient's suffering".

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Well, suicide is murder of oneself. The biggest difference is that you have control over your life and your body so the murder argument makes no difference imo.

Sounds like they said that to make you feel bad, as if you were a criminal for wanting to end your suffering

It's not murder; it's to kill oneself. In Dutch words like suïcide and zelfmoord (self-murder) are still being used, but for a long time they (particularly the media) have been using another word: zelfdoding which roughly translates to self-killing.

Our van Dale dictionary explains moord (murder) as het opzettelijk en met voorbedachten rade een ander van het leven beroven; the deliberate and premeditated taking of the life of another. So it's not murder; you're not killing another person.

 

[Loona KLD]

oh they are definitely religious, nothing like good ol' religion to keep us suffering for the sake of "god"

I think you should have replied with a logical argument and asked them who owns our lives then? Are they very religious? I suppose they could say God.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Giving birth is murder then because the person will die eventually. And if you hadn't had them that wouldn't happen.

 

[avalonisburning]

I was once told that suicide is theft and embezzlement because you're absconding with hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax money invested to support you in the understanding that you would pay it back.

Yeah, let's ignore the tsunami of issues with that statement, the primary one being that's not how investing fucking works lmao.

 

[Chili]

Ain't the definition, like the act of one person killing another? They're just an idiot lmfao

 

[Worndown]

What a big fucking joke! The audacity to tell me that I don't have control over my own body, I really hate those kinds of people. If you don't have anything to say to help me then maybe it's better to shut up instead of talking to me as if I owe you or god something. My body my rules.

Ok. Your "I met an ass" quota is filled for the day.

 

[BrainShower]

A lot of Christians will say it murder because it's taking a life that belongs to God. However. I would say technically it is a form of euthanasia "the practice of ending the life of a patient to limit the patient's suffering".

Maybe God shouldn't loan out things He cares about so much then.
A lesson most of us learned in primary school.

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

Wait till you find out that in some countries suicide is illegal - both assisted and regular. Best not to attempt and fail there lol.

 

[Kavka]

Yeah, and masturbation is sexually assaulting yourself.

 

[Loona KLD]

Wait till you find out that in some countries suicide is illegal - both assisted and regular. Best not to attempt and fail there lol.

That's literally hell, really what are they gonna do if I tried and failed?

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

Ikr? Like, are they gonna put me in jail? Or execute me lol? That would be super ironic.

 

[kyhoti]

I am sorry you had this hurtful interaction. I have long held the idea that people who are vehemently opposed to "self-killing" are most likely afraid of their own thoughts of self harm. To them, accepting someone else's choice to unalive opens the Pandora's Box in their own head, so they must protect, protect, protect. Using the M-word is almost like a slur, intended to slam the door on unpleasant thought.

 

[Chili]

I was once told that suicide is theft and embezzlement because you're absconding with hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax money invested to support you in the understanding that you would pay it back.

Great let me never ask for help LOL people are crazy

 

[Loona KLD]

Ikr? Like, are they gonna put me in jail? Or execute me lol? That would be super ironic.

If they put me in jail I'll try harder to hang myself in the showers, if they execute me... well I guess the mission failed successfully lol

Great let me never ask for help LOL people are crazy

Exactly! There is no way I'm going to talk about this subject outside of this site ever again

 

[3/4Dead]

Was scratching my head until you said they're religious, makes perfect sense in the context of theism but outside of that is pretty much nonsense.

 

[SilentSadness]

To say suicide is murder is just insanely cruel, I would avoid anyone who says that.

 

[Steff1337]

Unfortunately, in many countries suicide is considered to be a "murder of your own self", yet you can't be punished because, well, you aren't alive anymore.
Of course I consider this to be wrong. Simply a person should have the right to die as much as they have the right to live.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

They asked me why I wanted to CTB, I told them why, they realized that my situation is actually fucked up and there is no easy solution to it so they tried to use the weakest possible logic

This is so cringe of them. I'm glad you were able to take it in stride (as much as possible obv, bc Jesus fucking Christ) and laugh it off. Your body your rules.

 

[Loona KLD]

This is so cringe of them. I'm glad you were able to take it in stride (as much as possible obv, bc Jesus fucking Christ) and laugh it off. Your body your rules.

Thank you! I don't know why but I'm very happy that you wrote that