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Psilo

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Dec 29, 2018
482
Sounds fucked up, I will be completely isolated in the woods, I dont want to suffer an hour, just want to black out A fucking SAP.
Glad to hear your fine.

That unbearable pain thing makes me very nervous, sounds really like excrutiating pain, even if you tell us its not that bad.


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Damn thats an old thread, how come that nobody mentiin that earlier?
 
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ReleaseMe

I know it's over And it never really began
May 26, 2018
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Sounds fucked up, I will be completely isolated in the woods, I dont want to suffer an hour, just want to black out A fucking SAP.
Glad to hear your fine.

That unbearable pain thing makes me very nervous, sounds really like excrutiating pain, even if you tell us its not that bad.


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Damn thats an old thread, how come that nobody mentiin that earlier?

I think mainly because few people stay here for more than a month or two.
Most of those who left probably either lost interest, ctb, are recovering or at least try to.
Also recently there have been lots of questionable /fake accounts from members who claim having taken SN. The bigger this forum gets, the more trolls, attention seekers etc appear.

I think Querrys experience is very interesting but it didn't cross my mind to link to it. It's the only first hand experience i know that sounds legit to me.
 
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Karangel25

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Mar 9, 2019
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What is the anyinemeric regimen?
Antiemetic?
 
Redrock

Redrock

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Mar 5, 2019
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She made mistakes and called the emergency then they saved her with the antidote.
 
Elek

Elek

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Feb 2, 2019
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OMG, it doesn't sound peaceful at all o_O
 
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ReleaseMe

I know it's over And it never really began
May 26, 2018
120
I have SN but am unsure of its quality and yet have to get antiemetics. Im only slightly scared of the act itself - it seems that there is quite a bit of distress to be expected - but I am also still holding back because of my parents, I cant stop thinking of how they'd react. My youth was very unhappy, but I can't really blame my parents for all of it and... somehow I love them. My parents are around the 70 year mark and I am 30. But they are kind of healthy for their age so it's not an option to wait until they are no more...
 
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Dec 25, 2018
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So you took sodium NITRITE and not NITRATE? Could this possibly matter at all when it comes to the pain?
 
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Mar 16, 2019
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OP has said he didn't take an antiacid. Tagamet is not only for absorption, it have to reduce the pain by reducing the stomach acid. I guess, maybe your abdominal cramps are happened because of the excess stomach acid which increased after sodium nitrite ingestion.
 
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OP has said he didn't take an antiacid. Tagamet is not only for absorption, it have to reduce the pain by reducing the stomach acid. I guess, maybe your abdominal cramps are happened because of the excess stomach acid which increased after sodium nitrite ingestion.

IMHO it is not acidity related, SN has a nearly neutral pH and it shouldn't alter the stomach acid more than a normal drink or food.
Stomach pH normally ranges from 3.5 to 1.5 (that's 100 times more H+ ions!) and it should be quiet tolerant to acidity changes, unless there are some pathologies like reflux or peptidic ulcer.
I'm afraid that the unbearable stomach pain he felt might have more complex causes than the simple increase in acidity.
 
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littlelady774

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Dec 20, 2018
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So is the acid reducer supposed to help with the stomach cramps?
 
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Dreamcollege

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Jul 17, 2018
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I just tried to drink a shot of high concentration salt water and I couldn't even get it dow because it tasted so bad. They say SN tastes like salt so how did you manage to drink it?
 
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littlelady774

running on empty
Dec 20, 2018
708
I just tried to drink a shot of high concentration salt water and I couldn't even get it dow because it tasted so bad. They say SN tastes like salt so how did you manage to drink it?
I think you just gotta down it without thinking too much about it
 
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secoma

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Mar 16, 2019
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The problem of benzodiazepines is that you can't sometimes (or often) fall asleep even with high overdose, especially under an abnormal condition.
What do you think about this?
 
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Karl

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Oct 14, 2018
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The problem of benzodiazepines is that you can't sometimes (or often) fall asleep even with high overdose, especially under an abnormal condition.
What do you think about this?
Really? How do you know?
 
Can'tStandAnymore

Can'tStandAnymore

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Mar 16, 2019
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IMHO it is not acidity related, SN has a nearly neutral pH and it shouldn't alter the stomach acid more than a normal drink or food.
Stomach pH normally ranges from 3.5 to 1.5 (that's 100 times more H+ ions!) and it should be quiet tolerant to acidity changes, unless there are some pathologies like reflux or peptidic ulcer.
I'm afraid that the unbearable stomach pain he felt might have more complex causes than the simple increase in acidity.

There is a quote from the member named @Justanotherconsumer

The cimetidine/ranitidine is essential for a peaceful death, ranitidine is 3 times as potent as cimetidine. Any kind of salt raises the production of stomach acid which could account for the pain people feel in cases where no acid blocker was taken.

According to that, the problem is not the PH change of the stomach acid but the production of stomach acid, If I get it right.
 
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Can'tStandAnymore

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Mar 16, 2019
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So, this shit doesn't matter. Or I'm just cursed and my thoughts doesn't valid here. It sucks.
 
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Psilo

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Dec 29, 2018
482
I'm using Sodium Bicarbonate to regulate acid as per the PPH. It says it increases the gut absorption of sn to have a peaceful and faster death.Anyone else using it? Says 5g before taking sn.
 
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secoma

Member
Mar 16, 2019
36
Really? How do you know?
You can read many stories about overdose on Twitter or somewhere. And you can also test it by yourself if you have a lot of benzodiazepines.
Benozs are not so strong drugs that they forces you to fall aspleep. They anly support your sleep. Whether you can sleep or not is highly depending on your condition.
 
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Anima

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Dec 5, 2018
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You can read many stories about overdose on Twitter or somewhere. And you can also test it by yourself if you have a lot of benzodiazepines.
Benozs are not so strong drugs that they forces you to fall aspleep. They anly support your sleep. Whether you can sleep or not is highly depending on your condition.

That strongly depends on the benzo you take, your tolerance and on how you react to benzos in general.
 
snowman626

snowman626

Mage
Jan 28, 2019
545
If i mix the 15g of SN with 100ml of water and store it in a little bottle and keep it in a cool dark place will it go bad? Or do i have to keep it dry and mix it at the time im going to drink it?
 
drakewantstogo

drakewantstogo

Pressure building
Nov 9, 2018
188
If i mix the 15g of SN with 100ml of water and store it in a little bottle and keep it in a cool dark place will it go bad? Or do i have to keep it dry and mix it at the time im going to drink it?
asking just out of curiousity, why'd you do that?
 
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Karangel25

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Mar 9, 2019
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Will mezclizine work as anti emetic? work
I don't have metaopramide
 
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Jul 13, 2019
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I would go with benzo first then antiemetic then acid reducer then sn on a empty stomach and or 6 hours of not eating or drinking https://archive.fo/hYd7d

Doesn't "decreasing the metabolism" mean that Tagamet increases the amount of diazepam that goes through your body because it's not as quickly metabolized in the gut? I thought Tagamet potentiated valium. Are they warning against rhe combination because they think someone may pass out before ingesting their SN from too much valium?
 
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Suicidal4Ever

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Sep 22, 2018
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As I said, I'm copypasting my story. I said earlier that I phoned 911 - my mistake, I didn't remember it and actually it was other way around, sorry for that.

"
Hey guys, last night I went with sodium nitrite and wanted to share some a story.

I mixed 15g with 60ml of water, half hour before I took really weak antiemetic. My heart was beating like crazy, probably because I was scared as fuck and it was going to be the end of my miserable life.
I can't compare taste to anything, but it's not so bad, although nothing enjoyable.

20 mins in, I felt like vomiting and I spent a lot of time in the bathroom doing that. Then,, after ten minutes I felt unbearable pain, like I've felt worse, but still it was hard to go through this, so I went to my sis and told her to call emergency asap and that she hasn't much time.

An hour in, I got blackout and I can't remember anything from that time, not even that they reanimated me.
Now it's 11 hours after this, I'm in hospital and I'm completely fine, I told docs that it was stupid of me and of course I wouldn't try again, so they won't keep me there for long.

I'm sure if I didn't go to my sister, I would go through it and most likely be dead by now."

To add to all of this, I was in psych ward for 6 weeks, but I've been training all this time/reading books/went to group walks/talked with folks there so it wasn't too bad.

I'm enjoying my life now, but I know that sooner or later I will attempt again, but for now it's chill.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
How did you measure the 15g of SN just got mine today.
 
Querry1

Querry1

life is unfair, ctb or get away
Aug 16, 2018
180
How did you measure the 15g of SN just got mine today.

1 tbsp is about 15g, you can buy a weight for that to be precise, I've had neither energy nor money to do that, so I used tbsp
 
Joannf

Joannf

Coração Vagabundo
Oct 8, 2018
390
Nitschke again and again stresses to take the recommend amount with anti emetics. If you don't do that you will puke that shit up and go through pain because you won't fall unconscious in less than 5 minutes.

Even carbon monoxide poisoning, which is considered one of the most peaceful methods of suicide alongside Nembutal, will cause horrible pain, cramps and diarrhea if the dosage is too high but not lethal.

Can you please document what you just said about Carbon Monoxide ?
I think I would have heard about this by now, having gathered information about CO since a few years now...
Would love to see your sources. I see that sources change on the search engines these days, Google is giving me different results and sources tend to talk about "severe headaches" where there was nothing before - there is a clear tendency over this last year. Simple fact charts disappear and are replaced by dark rantings... anyway, "Horrible Pain" is definitely complete and utter bullshit - if you don't mind me saying so ;)

I had an accidental experience with CO from a generator and I barely got away, but there were no ill effects at all - just losing consciousness, feeling drowsy.
So I'm one of the few person in existence who can actually claim real life experience with CO... but I'd love others chiming in.

You see, what CO basically does it is what Nitrogen (N as opposed to "N") does, where you exchange the Oxygen you breathe for Nitrogen, and so you slowly run out of Oxygen, go dizzy and die. The process is the same with CO, only that CO does not replace the Oxygen at the nose level, but at the cell level, using a smarter process. But the effect is the exact same. One might wonder why we do not hear of headaches and 'convulsions' from N users, though I'm not concerned about the convulsions really - when animals pass out, they tend to have muscle twitches, and "convulsion" sounds so much more deliciously ominous. I think that if you spend time in a low-Oxygen environment (that also tends to contain CO), you will get headaches simply from lack of Oxygen rather than contact with CO... so the effects mentioned likely have NO direct connection to CO, for the simple reason that this makes no logical sense.
CO does not hurt. You never know what hits you.

800 ppm - Dizziness, nausea and convulsions within 45 minutes. Unconsciousness within 2 hours. Death within 2-3 hours. Maximum air-free concentration from gas kitchen ranges (ANSI).

1600 ppm - Headache, dizziness and nausea within 20 minutes. Death within 1 hour. Smoldering wood fires, malfunctioning furnaces, water heaters, and kitchen ranges typically produce concentrations exceeding 1,600 ppm.

** I daresay that if you make sure that you have ample Oxygen in your bedroom, and a stable 1600PPM CO-supply, you would peacefully go to sleep and never wake up again. People who experience such CO levels, however usually experience them under a severe absence of Oxygen, which will cause headaches.
This doesn't need to happen. CO will bind to the hemoglobin of your blood at least 200 times better than Oxygen, so you can have all the Oxygen you want, to make sure all goes well. Is this plausible ? Does this make sense to you ?

3200 ppm - Concentration inside charcoal grill (Greiner, single example). Headache, dizziness and nausea within 5-20 minutes. Quickly impaired thinking. Death within 30 minutes.

6400 ppm - Headache, dizziness and nausea within 1-2 minutes. Thinking impaired before response possible. Death within 10-15 minutes.

12,800 ppm - Death within 1-3 minutes

35,000 ppm - Measured tailpipe exhaust concentration from warm carbureted gasoline engines without catalytic converters. (Greiner, unpublished field study, January 1997)

70,000 ppm - Typical tailpipe exhaust concentrations from cold gasoline engine during the first minute of a cold weather start. Concentrations decreased to 2 ppm after 17 minutes of running. (Greiner, unpublished field studies, January 1997.)

***For car enthusiasts : Yes, a modern car will produce CO for the first five to ten minutes of running - but that's a fickle thing. Think generator, or charcoal, or acid method - or try to get a container with clean CO. Making CO yourself means using methods that create stink - and you have to filter that stink or make sure it evaporates into the air if possible - just think about exhaust smell. You only want the CO !
There's a CO Megathread on this forum, and I have detailed the acid method in the "Formic + Sulfuric Acid" thread.
My own setup is likely to reach 100.000 PPM. I'm not afraid, and though I'm not eager to die, I'm kinda looking forward ;)
 
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