SN, what to expect.

[BPDtgirl]

I'm making a note of this here. A) for my own reference and so it is not saved on my phone but B) so that, if it helps others, they can see.

If you have anything to add based on your own research please go ahead, i'd rather know. I think this is going to be my method.


Sodium Nitrite Method.

You will need:

• Sodium Nitrite (at least 30g to ensure fatal overdose for at 70kg weight)
• Strong anti-emetics
• Strong painkillers
• Antacids (Quickens the process and stops SN being converted to regular table salt whilst in the stomach)
• Very sweet food, preferably candy. No bread or anything that will 'soak up' the SN
• Valium, or mirtazipine as long as you haven't taken any for a good few days (helps relax, sedate)
• Courage & Willpower to resist panicking.

Possible effects to expect (time could vary dependent on various factors, this is only a guideline based on some personal accounts of other's attempts):

• Lethal at high dose
• Tastes disgusting
• Up to 30 minutes headache
• Up to 45-60 mins pain intensifies in gut (strong painkiller recommended before)
• Up to 60-90 mins, muscle aches and fever, just like you're feeling sick, nausea but it will pass (DO NOT THROW UP)
• Up to 2 hours deliriousness and loss of time but pain fades
• Up to 2 hours 30 mins, everything fades out.

So..

1. Choose a day, you need to sleep on it and then spend the day thinking about it, be absolutely sure as there is no going back.
2. 5pm. Take benzodiazepines/mirtazipine.
3. 6pm. Take anti-emetics and painkillers & antacids.
4. 7pm. Take SN drink. Bottoms up.
5. Effects may come immediately or up to 2/3hrs.
6. do NOT throw up. Eating some dry food my help, no water.
7. Fade to death and it's infinite peace

 

[evanescent_eva]

Will definitely be following this thread, as I don't know as much about SN as I would like. If this ends up being your method, I hope it brings you the peace that you need.

I'll just add three pieces of information that I've come across in the past, in the hopes that they might be useful to you or anyone else reading the thread!

1. Even with benzos, SN can induce intense tachycardia and hyperventilation. This is because SN works by starving the body of oxygen, and the body compensates by increasing the heart rate and breath rate. In addition to being physically uncomfortable, these symptoms can trick the body into thinking that it's having a psychological panic attack, which then can then activate SI - over and above the amount of SI you'd be feeling simply by contemplating your own death. I guess this is just a way of saying that if you start feeling symptoms of panic, it's not necessarily an issue of cowardice - it's at least in part your body's natural response to hypoxia.
2. I've seen wildly different accounts of the time it takes for various effects to start happening. There are people who lose consciousness within 20 minutes, and die within an hour; and apparently there are people who need four hours or more to CTB. The variation is in part due to differences in each person's natural metabolism, and also in part due to variations in the exact method used. The exact amounts of SN, AE, and food you eat - along with when you take them relative to each other - seem really important here.
3. Related to the point above, you didn't mention the use of an antacid in the OP. When SN mixes with your stomach acid, some (not all, but some) of it will convert to regular table salt. As a result, less SN will make it to the small intestine where the process of actually transferring it into bloodstream starts, making it a less lethal and more time consuming process. By taking an antacid, you neutralize your stomach acid and increase the amount of SN available to your bloodstream. It's not *strictly* necessary in order to CTB, but it ups the odds and speeds up the process. Plus, antacids are cheaply available over the counter just about everywhere, so they're usually an easy addition to the method.

Finally, some resources you (or someone else!) might find useful. First is Stan's guide, which I've seen a lot of people use successfully to CTB; it includes a lot of specifics on timing and dosages and theory and stuff, and it's not identical to what you have written in OP, so it might be an interesting read!

Second is a giant list of SN attempts, cataloguing each person's methods, experiences, and even their last posts. Might be useful for getting a feel for all the different ways people have done it before. (And this is an update to that list from 2023 - not as useful imo, but hey, since when is more info a bad thing).

Best of luck, whatever you decide to do <3

 

[BPDtgirl]

Will definitely be following this thread, as I don't know as much about SN as I would like. If this ends up being your method, I hope it brings you the peace that you need.

I'll just add three pieces of information that I've come across in the past, in the hopes that they might be useful to you or anyone else reading the thread!

1. Even with benzos, SN can induce intense tachycardia and hyperventilation. This is because SN works by starving the body of oxygen, and the body compensates by increasing the heart rate and breath rate. In addition to being physically uncomfortable, these symptoms can trick the body into thinking that it's having a psychological panic attack, which then can then activate SI - over and above the amount of SI you'd be feeling simply by contemplating your own death. I guess this is just a way of saying that if you start feeling symptoms of panic, it's not necessarily an issue of cowardice - it's at least in part your body's natural response to hypoxia.
2. I've seen wildly different accounts of the time it takes for various effects to start happening. There are people who lose consciousness within 20 minutes, and die within an hour; and apparently there are people who need four hours or more to CTB. The variation is in part due to differences in each person's natural metabolism, and also in part due to variations in the exact method used. The exact amounts of SN, AE, and food you eat - along with when you take them relative to each other - seem really important here.
3. Related to the point above, you didn't mention the use of an antacid in the OP. When SN mixes with your stomach acid, some (not all, but some) of it will convert to regular table salt. As a result, less SN will make it to the small intestine where the process of actually transferring it into bloodstream starts, making it a less lethal and more time consuming process. By taking an antacid, you neutralize your stomach acid and increase the amount of SN available to your bloodstream. It's not *strictly* necessary in order to CTB, but it ups the odds and speeds up the process. Plus, antacids are cheaply available over the counter just about everywhere, so they're usually an easy addition to the method.

Finally, some resources you (or someone else!) might find useful. First is Stan's guide, which I've seen a lot of people use successfully to CTB; it includes a lot of specifics on timing and dosages and theory and stuff, and it's not identical to what you have written in OP, so it might be an interesting read!

Second is a giant list of SN attempts, cataloguing each person's methods, experiences, and even their last posts. Might be useful for getting a feel for all the different ways people have done it before. (And this is an update to that list from 2023 - not as useful imo, but hey, since when is more info a bad thing).

Best of luck, whatever you decide to do <3

this is far more comprehensive, thank you so much for this info. i'll update the original post to reflect in case anyone else finds

 

[rozeske]

You will find the more aqurate information of what to expect and when on the sn bible in the resources section and on the pphe attached on the sticky threads.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

if you truly feel like there's nothing else left to do and it can't be fixed,
then it's good to have a plan like this, to ensure minimal chance of failure.

but everytime i see those medication names, it's like gibberish to me.
it's truly holding me back from doing SN.

i have zero idea about what any of these medications purpose.
and i don't think i could ever find a place to buy them.
SN is easy enough to buy, but not the rest :(

 

[BPDtgirl]

if you truly feel like there's nothing else left to do and it can't be fixed,
then it's good to have a plan like this, to ensure minimal chance of failure.

but everytime i see those medication names, it's like gibberish to me.
it's truly holding me back from doing SN.

i have zero idea about what any of these medications purpose.
and i don't think i could ever find a place to buy them.
SN is easy enough to buy, but not the rest :(

This will likely be my method but actually getting ahold of pure SN in the UK is a difficult task.

as for the medications and their purposes i would recommend researching yourself than relying purely on other accounts. But, for a quick run down, benzos/valium or mirtazipine are for sedative purposes, antacids are to quicken or ensure the desired effect and anti-emetics are to stop nausea and vomiting the SN up.

You will find the more aqurate information of what to expect and when on the sn bible in the resources section and on the pphe attached on the sticky threads.

this is, more or less, for my own self. i want to keep a record here relatively anonymously and away from my devices. However if anyone finds it helpful, then that is a positive

 

[Valhala]

Antiemetics are a subject of discussion, I think the 2025 protocol does not even recommend them while, say, Propranolol has been re-introduced.

 

[evanescent_eva]

Antiemetics are a subject of discussion, I think the 2025 protocol does not even recommend them while, say, Propranolol has been re-introduced.

Can you provide links to such discussions or protocols? I'm not sure what protocol you're referring to, but PPH 2025 verbatim says: "When sodium nitrite is dissolved in water it produces a very salty drink. Vomiting is common. For this reason, an anti-emetic is essential." I would think that even if anti-emetics aren't 100% effective, literally anything you can do to decrease the odds of vomiting, even a little, would be crucial! But like I said in my first post on this thread, I'm still learning about SN, so I'd be very curious to see alternative reasoning here.

As for propranolol (for those who don't know), it's a kind of medication called a beta blocker, which slows down the heart rate. Some say that because it can reduce the heart rate, it reduces potential panic and decreases cardiac output, which in turn can increase the speed of death. Others say that because it reduces the heart rate, it decreases the oxygen demand of the heart, which can keep the heart and the body alive longer. Haven't seen a ton of hard evidence either way in terms of its effect on the speed of ctb. The SS SN megathread, PPH 2025, and Stan's guide are all agnostic on the use of beta-blockers like propranolol, but there have definitely been people who have ctb using it!

 

[rozeske]

this is, more or less, for my own self. i want to keep a record here relatively anonymously and away from my devices. However if anyone finds it helpful, then that is a positive

There are misinformations which won't do you or anyone any good, that is why I directed you to the correct guidelines of the sn protocol.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

two things to add:

a. yes, pre medications matter/can help but are not necessary for success per the PPH.
b. the doses are high enough that even with what might be looked at as excessive vomiting, the lethal dose has still been absorbed by the body.

this is mostly in response to others down thread.

OP, this looks solid. good on you for writing it up for yourself when you're in the right headspace to do so. we're here for you

 

[kotonearisato]

A lot of guides mention fasting before the SN, so that might also cause differences with the timing. I think if fasting, the antiacid is recommended. For anti-emetics, while Meto is the most recommended, I've seen people have success with Zofran as well as Dramamine which at least in the US is OTC. It's not so much the strength from my understanding but what it's blocking/whether it speeds up gastric emptying or slows it down.

 

[BPDtgirl]

There are misinformations which won't do you or anyone any good, that is why I directed you to the correct guidelines of the sn protocol.

If i die, that's good enough for me. I don't think I will care much if it lasts an extra 10 minutes because i didn't read every single post about killing yourself.

A lot of guides mention fasting before the SN, so that might also cause differences with the timing. I think if fasting, the antiacid is recommended. For anti-emetics, while Meto is the most recommended, I've seen people have success with Zofran as well as Dramamine which at least in the US is OTC. It's not so much the strength from my understanding but what it's blocking/whether it speeds up gastric emptying or slows it down.

Thank you, i think meto is the choice as i've seen that used enough times but i'll make do with what i have. Perhaps i will have to try without

OP, this looks solid. good on you for writing it up for yourself when you're in the right headspace to do so. we're here for you

thank you, i appreciate the support here and zero judgement. These notes and this community gives me a sense of control over things that may actually compel me to carry on. But if things don't work out this will be my route

This was nicer than my other plan and i'm grateful for the information here. Likewise, i'm here for you all.