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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
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By this time my last brain cells have been stripped at me the only time even remotely think clearly is at night but my nights have been stripped away. I'm extremely ill during the day I can't take sunlight any I got so many health problems now. I can barely function to write this I have to leave in the next few days and so trying to put my plan together to leave at night might have to be switched to during the day. I can't think during the day I barely know what my name is. But from things that happened to me out of my control of my sleeping has been flipped to be awake during the day for the first time I don't know in decades so it's not going well. I only have a few days left when I have a chance to leave I will be put away. No chance of getting out in assisted living deteriorating with somebody changing a diaper.


I have the SN. I guess I can't have a set time because I don't know if I'm going to be awake during the day or night and the next few days so I know not to eat 8 hours beforehand not to drink 2 hours before then measure out 24 g into a cup I'm going to make two of them and then I'm going to have two cups filled with 50 mm water then it will take the water and pour it into the cups. This way I know I have the exact measurements in each cup right. I have a scale to measure the SN .I don't know if I'll need two cups or not I guess depending on how much I vomit. I know I don't have this written out like everybody else but right now I'm just too sick. And times run out for me to try to format it so it's easier to read. So once again okay don't eat 8 hours before don't drink 2 hours before about an hour before I'm going to take some klonopin and then I'm going to take some gabapentin for pain. 40 minutes before I will take 10 mg * 3 30 mg Metro I will then mix in 24 g with 50 milliliter water mix until dissolved. Two glasses. The only thing I'm having a problem with which I had before is how much klonopin to take because the only benzo I have I think it's fast for acting I don't want to knock myself out too soon. So I have 30 mg Klonopin measured out in tiny pieces to add water to it's just when do I take it. If I take it right after I drink the first class and knock myself out and then I vomit then I will not succeed. So I guess I think if I hold it down for 10 minutes without vomiting too much then I go ahead and take the Klonopin if I vomit a lot then not take the Klonopin right away and wait and have a second glass. I also have probably 100 mg of Klonopin just sitting here but I'm afraid if I take that and somehow the SN it's not legit although I got it from sources a long time ago and I don't think anyone's failed with it however for some reason if I threw up too much or it's not legit and I fail then I will have too much klonopin in my system and it probably cause a lot of damage. So my question is after I hold down the SN for 10 minutes should I just go ahead and take all the Klonopin I have with like I said probably 100 pills 100 mg I mean yeah that will absolutely knock me out but I know that won't kill me but should I take it or not? I know you can't give me exact answers but you can give me your opinion. I can't feel I don't have a second chance I'm old and my abusive narcissistic mom when she comes home if I have failed we'll put me away because she wants to put me away anyway she's looking for any excuse. So any advice would be appreciated but just make it super simple cuz like I said I'm on a lot of different medications and my pain is so severe and I can barely see'so please be kind and I don't want anybody complaining about my grammar or punctuation please. I know I shouldn't have to ask however last time I posted something someone did.


No food for 8 hours prior not sure if I should take any Metro with my last meal?


N0 Liquid 2 hours prior


1 hour prior take some klonopin and gabapentin for pain


40 minutes prior take 10 mg Metro * 3



40 minutes before Mix up 24 g SN with 50 ml water in two glasses



40 minutes before I have two tiny bottles full of Klonopin one is 10 mg one is 20 I'm going to put water in it and shake them I think it will dissolve them so they'll be ready








I guess I'll drink down SN fast as possible hopefully I don't vomit if I don't vomit after 10 minutes I guess I'll go ahead and take my too small photos photos of dissolved Klonopin twhich is 30 mg I forgot the conversion from what the PPH was with Klonopin I mean what they suggest you take would knock someone out so quick if they vomited they wouldn't have a chance to drink a second glass



Sit back and pray


So my only question would be should I even try to drink a second glass if I vomit too much of the first because I've read it says if you vomit too much abort mission well I can't no second chances and once I opened up the SN it'll be exposed to air plus that will be my last chance anyhow I will be thrown away if I fail so there's no option to fail'


And since I have a lot more Klonopin 100 mg should I even take that if I don't vomit after 10 minutes like I mentioned I know that's not enough to kill me but hopefully that would make sure I will absolutely not wake up during any side effects from the SN.




I did the best to put this together under extreme duress exhaustion sleep deprivation pain time restriction. If I don't even think I can pull it together within 48 hours I will have to just abort mission and from maybe a slight chance in October I might be left alone for a few hours but that's not even a sure thing. I will never be left alone I'll be put away and assisted living because of an evil narcissistic mom. I know my stomach is so bad right now I can barely eat I'm so afraid I'm going to vomit even with the Metro. I will come back periodically to check to see if there's answers I'm going to just try to sleep the best I can the next couple days. I was going to count on sleep today but the county is coming in my backyard to chop down a bunch of trees and will be on my roof for like 8 hours I got to know this at the last minute went through off everything but yeah that's my luck! Please no comments no negative comments on my grammar I punctuation my messy planning. Honestly the best I can do. If you cannot help me in any positive manner please just don't comment.



Sit back and pray


So my only question would be should I even try to drink a second glass if I vomit too much of the first because I've read it says if you vomit too much abort mission well I can't no second chances and once I opened up the SN it'll be exposed to air plus that will be my last chance anyhow I will be thrown away if I fail so there's no option to fail'


Think some of it got cut off but I honestly can't read anymore to even see if what I wrote is correct. Thank you if you can help! I'll be checking back periodically in the next 48 hours. Meanwhile try to sleep every second I can. If I don't get more sleep I know I won't be able to measure correctly or even follow simple directions. Yes it's gotten that bad. I have such severe tremors and I'm shaking bad when anxiety kicks in and SI I'm afraid I'm going to fail from shaking too much I'm also afraid that salt will spill. I just need calm and quiet to be able to carry this out so anybody that can wish me any positive energy or whatever you believe in that I can have some clarity in my mind and peace so I can do this I would appreciate it. It's something that I thought out for a long long time . There's no coming back from where I'm at.
 
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I don't have any advice, I just hope you find peace
 
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I wish you the best, hope you find relief from suffering 🫂:heart:
 
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I don't think you'll need the klonopin after the Sn, especially ten minutes after. Klonopin is not as fast acting as other benzos and it's best to take it a bit before. I don't think you'll need 100 mg, you don't want to pass out and miss your Sn completely, but I'm also not entirely sure. Mixing two glasses sounds right, as does using meto. Many people die even after vomiting so I'm not sure if you'd have to abort mission or not, everyone is different.

Also just wanted to say that I'm sorry for your suffering. It sounds like you've had a tough go at life, it's just cruel.
 
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If you're very sick or have a weak stomach, you can make 3 glasses of sleeping pills. According to the protocol, you should drink a second glass after vomiting and a third glass after repeated vomiting. But you probably won't need a third glass. You can just reinsure yourself.

I'm sorry you suffer so much, and I hope that you will find the peace you seek. If you decide to go, I wish you luck.
 
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wishingonstars

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Aug 6, 2025
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I can understand your post just fine, don't worry about punctuation.

I would say it should work to prepare two glasses of the klonopin and drink the first glass of SN directly followed by the first glass of the klonopin and then if you puke a lot take the second glass of SN followed directly by the second glass of klonopin.

SN is very reliable so I don't think you will fail. Perhaps prepare 3 glasses of SN in case you spill due to the tremors.

It sounds like you are truly going through hell. I hope you find peace and relief from your suffering.
 
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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
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I can understand your post just fine, don't worry about punctuation.

I would say it should work to prepare two glasses of the klonopin and drink the first glass of SN directly followed by the first glass of the klonopin and then if you puke a lot take the second glass of SN followed directly by the second glass of klonopin.

SN is very reliable so I don't think you will fail. Perhaps prepare 3 glasses of SN in case you spill due to the tremors.

It sounds like you are truly going through hell. I hope you find peace and relief from your suffering.
Thank you for the info.. yeah I have less than 48 hours to go maximum you're my anxiety is severe even though I've taken several Klonopin. My concern is it's in a vacuum sealed plastic bag and if I open it I'm afraid it's going to spell everywhere I guess I can cut a corner and try to pour some out going to have to measure it on a scale and then mix it I'm just so afraid or shaking so much I'm not sure if I could do it. If someone could mix it for me then it wouldn't be so easy for me to just down it. I think the mixing measuring it out it's going to be the difficult task I don't risk contamination. I know if you touch your skin with it first that is not good so I might have to wear gloves. I know a lot of people do it with ease without even thinking but unfortunately with super anxiety that's not the case for me. I know I'm supposed to weigh out about 24 g. I'm wondering if I should put that in the cup first and then add the water or if I should put the water in a separate glass and measure out the 50 ml and then add it I'm not sure if it makes that much difference. I don't even think I need to take that much I know about 155.. I just wish I didn't have to be rushed knowing I have such little time. But unfortunately I don't live on my own. I'm also afraid of the second glass being spilled or just tipping over if anybody comes in contact. Don't think I have time to go from the bathroom to measure and do that back to my bedroom to lie down.. I just wish it would have came already measured that would have saved a lot of problems. Sorry for rambling I'm just so anxious.. and survival instinct is the strongest force in the world. And then I looked up if I could think from anxiety and it said yes and I said oh great because I have issues with that already. I wish there was this pills if I could take and swallow that would be so much more easier but not realistic. Once again I'm sorry for rambling my anxiety is just overcoming me. Even though I studied this method for so long that doesn't seem to help at this point because I have so many scenarios that come in my head. Is going to do the 48 hour regiment but then I figured there's not really any reason to do that but do you think with my last meal I should go ahead and take any of the Metro? I mean I haven't really bad stomach the Metro expired February of this year however I'm hoping it's still good. It should be it's been in a dark cool place and sealed
 
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My advice is to keep it as simple as possible.

Everything is practice and experience. The more u practice something and the simpler it is the higher the probability of getting it done correctly

Imo adding the benzos as u described it would add too much complexity and more unknowns. I read through it and certainly didn't understand it the first read through

If I were to do the sn method . It would be 1. No food fasting at least 8 hours and stop liquids 2 hours before.2. Disable Phone make it dificult for si to mess it up . Try isolated área if posible 3.30 MG meto 45 to 1 hr before Sn. 4. Prepare 3 glasses of sn in water. For me 30 g in 100 ml water 5. Drink sn first glass lie down dont call er . 6. If vomit drink 2nd glass

thats already 6 steps . But I never have done that even once. To expect to do it perfectly the first time .....
 
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Thank you for the info.. yeah I have less than 48 hours to go maximum you're my anxiety is severe even though I've taken several Klonopin. My concern is it's in a vacuum sealed plastic bag and if I open it I'm afraid it's going to spell everywhere I guess I can cut a corner and try to pour some out going to have to measure it on a scale and then mix it I'm just so afraid or shaking so much I'm not sure if I could do it. If someone could mix it for me then it wouldn't be so easy for me to just down it. I think the mixing measuring it out it's going to be the difficult task I don't risk contamination. I know if you touch your skin with it first that is not good so I might have to wear gloves. I know a lot of people do it with ease without even thinking but unfortunately with super anxiety that's not the case for me. I know I'm supposed to weigh out about 24 g. I'm wondering if I should put that in the cup first and then add the water or if I should put the water in a separate glass and measure out the 50 ml and then add it I'm not sure if it makes that much difference. I don't even think I need to take that much I know about 155.. I just wish I didn't have to be rushed knowing I have such little time. But unfortunately I don't live on my own. I'm also afraid of the second glass being spilled or just tipping over if anybody comes in contact. Don't think I have time to go from the bathroom to measure and do that back to my bedroom to lie down.. I just wish it would have came already measured that would have saved a lot of problems. Sorry for rambling I'm just so anxious.. and survival instinct is the strongest force in the world. And then I looked up if I could think from anxiety and it said yes and I said oh great because I have issues with that already. I wish there was this pills if I could take and swallow that would be so much more easier but not realistic. Once again I'm sorry for rambling my anxiety is just overcoming me. Even though I studied this method for so long that doesn't seem to help at this point because I have so many scenarios that come in my head. Is going to do the 48 hour regiment but then I figured there's not really any reason to do that but do you think with my last meal I should go ahead and take any of the Metro? I mean I haven't really bad stomach the Metro expired February of this year however I'm hoping it's still good. It should be it's been in a dark cool place and sealed
I think pthnrdnojvsc is right about keeping it simple. And I do think taking the meto is a good idea. As far a spilling the SN goes I agree that cutting one corner open and wearing gloves is also a good idea. You may spill and that is a risk you'll have to take unfortunately but all you can do is your best and I think it'll work out. If you make a mess while measuring it out that's not a big deal.
 
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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
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My advice is to keep it as simple as possible.

Everything is practice and experience. The more u practice something and the simpler it is the higher the probability of getting it done correctly

Imo adding the benzos as u described it would add too much complexity and more unknowns. I read through it and certainly didn't understand it the first read through

If I were to do the sn method . It would be 1. No food fasting at least 8 hours and stop liquids 2 hours before.2. Disable Phone make it dificult for si to mess it up . Try isolated área if posible 3.30 MG meto 45 to 1 hr before Sn. 4. Prepare 3 glasses of sn in water. For me 30 g in 100 ml water 5. Drink sn first glass lie down dont call er . 6. If vomit drink 2nd glass

thats already 6 steps . But I never have done that even once. To expect to do it perfectly the first time .....
I wanted to take the benzos but I go from being super anxious and having tremors and panic attacks to 5 minutes later passing out for hours because the anxiety. I can't win. I guess maybe take minimal benzos beforehand. You're supposed to have the benzos crushed into powder and add water well I could only break them up into small pieces but I wasn't strong enough and my hands are messed up to try to break them a smaller. And even if sitting in water for a while I don't think they'll dissolve much. I'm already dizzy as I begin with my chronic dizziness so I think you're supposed to get pretty dizzy within 5 minutes so I would have to drink lying down to begin with. I'm pretty much used to every symptom that it states that will happen to you that's pretty much the way I've had to live. my big concern is when my mom comes home is her somehow running into contamination or my cat when she brings her home. I'd have to measure the stuff out maybe in the shower then not even take it like I said until I get back to my bedroom put it on my nearby dresser and then get in my bed. I wish I had more time I could have went maybe a few days ago but I did not want to leave my body here for days if you know what I'm saying. I don't know why I even care maybe because I'm a decent person even though my mom is severely abused me my entire life although I am much older but she has abused me anyhow. I guess when she had me me being disabled wasn't in her vision. Yeah she's a narcissist.. if I feel I can't do it then I might have to wait till October when she's gone for a few hours which I don't want to have to because I'm in excruciating pain I had surgery that got messed up with left me with another health problem with neurological pain going across my entire body a lot of pain I can barely even stand up. The fact that my mom left when I could barely stand up or feed myself so she doesn't give a shit but then I also was glad that maybe I would finally have a chance after years of waiting for her to leave. But then she waited to the point where I'm so sick that I don't even know if I can do it when maybe like 6 months ago before my surgery wouldn't have been such a problem. Klonopin I did the conversion from what it recommend and it would be 30 mg Klonopin but if I actually took 30 mg I would pass out completely cold within about 2 minutes so that wouldn't be a good idea Such as life! It just makes no sense that the PPH recommends taking that amount after the first glass. because if you took it specially the one they recommend is fast acting and you vomited you would never have a chance to even have a second glass. Too bad I can't die from taking a couple hundred Klonopin but yeah I learned that that's not realistic which sucks! Thanks for the info.. checked some info on the internet yeah I guess the Klonopin would have to be completely dissolved into powder form and I could not even get close so it won't dissolve in water.
I think pthnrdnojvsc is right about keeping it simple. And I do think taking the meto is a good idea. As far a spilling the SN goes I agree that cutting one corner open and wearing gloves is also a good idea. You may spill and that is a risk you'll have to take unfortunately but all you can do is your best and I think it'll work out. If you make a mess while measuring it out that's not a big deal.
I was only worried about contamination as far as my mom coming across it and touching it or possibly even my cat. If I could just have somebody mix it for me then drinking it down will be no problem. Weighing it and mixing it. Oh yeah I have a question I knew all this info before years ago I had it down but now my brain is complete mush someone said something about don't use a metal spoon to stir it and I can't find a plastic one although I haven't seen anybody mention it since maybe it's not a big deal. Thank you for the info and help

I was just thinking if I have to wait until October which will suck I'm just going to tell my mom that I'm starting to vomit from pain because I could do it in the middle of the night I just didn't want her hear me vomiting and then come to see if I was okay so if I tell her now that I'm starting to vomit because the pain when she hears me in the future she'll ignore it. Maybe I have two brain cells functioning 🙂
I think pthnrdnojvsc is right about keeping it simple. And I do think taking the meto is a good idea. As far a spilling the SN goes I agree that cutting one corner open and wearing gloves is also a good idea. You may spill and that is a risk you'll have to take unfortunately but all you can do is your best and I think it'll work out. If you make a mess while measuring it out that's not a big deal.
Like I was saying to the other member for some reason if I have to wait till October which will suck I we'll just tell my mom that I'm starting to vomit from the pain so when she hears me vomiting in the middle of the night when I'll go then she'll just think I'm vomiting from the pain and ignore me. But if I don't go soon she's going to put me away because she is evil that's a fact!
 
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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
272
My advice is to keep it as simple as possible.

Everything is practice and experience. The more u practice something and the simpler it is the higher the probability of getting it done correctly

Imo adding the benzos as u described it would add too much complexity and more unknowns. I read through it and certainly didn't understand it the first read through

If I were to do the sn method . It would be 1. No food fasting at least 8 hours and stop liquids 2 hours before.2. Disable Phone make it dificult for si to mess it up . Try isolated área if posible 3.30 MG meto 45 to 1 hr before Sn. 4. Prepare 3 glasses of sn in water. For me 30 g in 100 ml water 5. Drink sn first glass lie down dont call er . 6. If vomit drink 2nd glass

thats already 6 steps . But I never have done that even once. To expect to do it perfectly the first time .....
I just checked on the internet and it says that I would have to have the Klonopin completely dissolved into powder because it doesn't break down in water very easily. So I guess might have to completely forgo it or just take the chance have some of it having an effect
 

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