SN on its own

[Mortalscreensaver]

How feasible is it to just use SN on its own?

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

You could but it's widely accepted that you need antiemetics or you will probably just throw it all up.

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

I wish I could find the story I read of a family who was poisoned with it when it was used as salt on their burgers. They all died.

Also another of a nurse who ingested just a 1g tablet of it.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I wish I could find the story I read of a family who was poisoned with it when it was used as salt on their burgers. They all died.

Also another of a nurse who ingested just a 1g tablet of it.

Yes i have read about very low doses killing people. I also think the vomiting part is the body's self defence mechanism as you know you have ingested poison. Where as the family you mentioned were not aware.

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

True. Hm if only someone could surprise feed it to me

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I'm planning on taking over 20g, so definitely enough to do the job I hope. I've even practiced by drinking about 15g of table salt dissolved in 100ml water. Just so I get used to the very salty taste and able to keep it down. Which I did.

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

Practice is a good idea. I might have to try that

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Practice is a good idea. I might have to try that

I think you also need to be careful with table salt, as high doses of that can kill.

 

[Blackjack]

Some people are just not prone to throwing up, regardless. I took over 200 high MG prescription pain/nerve pills & didn't even burp (let alone die), so it's all in your physiological makeup.

 

[Lime]

i would probably end up trying it on it's own throwing up isn't something i'm prone to doing unless lots of alcohol is involved

 

[how2toGetout]

I have hard time obtaining metoclopramide. I'm in US.
Is there any alternative to meto as antiemetic for SN?
Can Mirtazapine or Olanzapine work as alternative to meto? If so, how effective will they be, compared to metoclopramide?

 

[Lennox]

I have hard time obtaining metoclopramide. I'm in US.
Is there any alternative to meto as antiemetic for SN?
Can Mirtazapine or Olanzapine work as alternative to meto? If so, how effective will they be, compared to metoclopramide?

Once you gain PM (private messaging) privileges (in case you don't find it on your own by then) I'll pm you the link of a site well regarded here on the forum where you can order meto without a prescription.
I won't simply post it here because it's against SS rules to provide links that could count as "sourcing". I was warned about that before.

To gain PM privileges you need to have posted at least five messages, and then wait a few hours (it seems the mods personally take a quick look at your profile to greenlight you).

 

[eve2004]

Once you gain PM (private messaging) privileges (in case you don't find it on your own by then) I'll pm you the link of a site well regarded here on the forum where you can order meto without a prescription.
I won't simply post it here because it's against SS rules to provide links that could count as "sourcing". I was warned about that before.

To gain PM privileges you need to have posted at least five messages, and then wait a few hours (it seems the mods personally take a quick look at your profile to greenlight you).

I'm interested too... thanks!

 

[jrums]

I think you also need to be careful with table salt, as high doses of that can kill.

Well he doesn't really need to be careful. He is trying to die after all lol

 

[Dawn0071111]

I'm planning on taking over 20g, so definitely enough to do the job I hope. I've even practiced by drinking about 15g of table salt dissolved in 100ml water. Just so I get used to the very salty taste and able to keep it down. Which I did.

I wonder if sipping it slowly over a longer period of time, like say even 5-7 min..would make it easier not to vomit it up rather than to just chug it all down at once..

 

[JimFord99]

I wonder if sipping it slowly over a longer period of time, like say even 5-7 min..would make it easier not to vomit it up rather than to just chug it all down at once..

I would like to hear the answer to this as well, please.

 

[Soul]

I wonder if sipping it slowly over a longer period of time, like say even 5-7 min..would make it easier not to vomit it up rather than to just chug it all down at once..

Someone here recently did that and passed out before ingesting a lethal amount.

 

[mainday]

Once you gain PM (private messaging) privileges (in case you don't find it on your own by then) I'll pm you the link of a site well regarded here on the forum where you can order meto without a prescription.
I won't simply post it here because it's against SS rules to provide links that could count as "sourcing". I was warned about that before.

To gain PM privileges you need to have posted at least five messages, and then wait a few hours (it seems the mods personally take a quick look at your profile to greenlight you).

Is the site you mentioned still well regarded? I know about ADC, but Metoclopramide is out of stock right now. I am new here so I don't have PM privileges just yet, but as soon as I do, I would very much appreciate if you could send me a link.

 

[autumnal]

I wonder if sipping it slowly over a longer period of time, like say even 5-7 min..would make it easier not to vomit it up rather than to just chug it all down at once..

Probably not. The gastric reaction involved in throwing it up likely occurs when a certain amount of the poison is detected in the stomach. So drinking it slowly just postpones the possible vomiting, rather than preventing it. And from a taste perspective, drinking it slowly just draws out that unpleasant aspect as long as possible. And yes, as another member points out, if sipping it slowly there is also the very real risk of you passing out before you are able to consume the entire dose. If that happens, it will lead to either a failed attempt, or a successful attempt that takes much longer (including longer periods of consciousness and possible discomfort) because of the reduced dosage.

In terms of longer periods of possible discomfort, remember, if you're taking SN on its own, you're not only missing out on the antiemetics. You're also missing out on pain relief for any possible headaches, and beta-blockers for keeping the heart rate normal. As well as benzos to keep you feeling calmer and antacids to aid more SN passing to the small intestine and the overall process being faster.

In short, taking SN on its own may still be successful, but it is the absolute worst variation of experience you can have with SN. And if I was forced to take SN on its own, I certainly wouldn't want to further lengthen that experience for reasons given above by gradually sipping the mixture.

I have hard time obtaining metoclopramide. I'm in US.
Is there any alternative to meto as antiemetic for SN?
Can Mirtazapine or Olanzapine work as alternative to meto? If so, how effective will they be, compared to metoclopramide?

Stan's Guide lists the antiemetics which are alternatives to meto.

 

[autumnal]

i would probably end up trying it on it's own throwing up isn't something i'm prone to doing unless lots of alcohol is involved

Some people are just not prone to throwing up, regardless. I took over 200 high MG prescription pain/nerve pills & didn't even burp (let alone die), so it's all in your physiological makeup.

It's really important to understand that the mechanism involved with vomiting after poisoning is a completely different one from that involved with most other common causes. So even if you tend not to vomit in any number of other everyday scenarios, this is not evidence that you won't vomit from poisoning.

It always concerns me to see the number of people who assume that their everyday resilience against vomiting is going to also transfer to the SN scenario. This isn't intended as a criticism, clearly there is a logic behind assuming that all vomiting is from similar mechanisms, but in this case that assumption is both incorrect and potentially dangerous.

The only defence against vomiting with SN is one of the recommended antiemetics (or one of the relevant dopamine antagonist antipsychotics). Even those don't completely remove the chances of vomiting, but they do minimize it as much as possible.

Also, please do keep in mind that anecdotal accounts of vomiting even with antiemetics (or not vomiting even without antiemetics) are not themselves evidence against the general effectiveness of antiemetics.

Well he doesn't really need to be careful. He is trying to die after all lol

Yes, true. But there is dying when you are ready to do so versus dying when you are not. And dying peacefully versus dying painfully. Death by kitchen salt would probably fall into the latter category.

Yes i have read about very low doses killing people. I also think the vomiting part is the body's self defence mechanism as you know you have ingested poison. Where as the family you mentioned were not aware.

True. Hm if only someone could surprise feed it to me

While you are correct that vomiting from poisoning is a self-defence mechanism by the body, it is an entirely physically-triggered reaction and doesn't require any actual conscious awareness that you have been poisoned.

So, alas, being surprise-fed it wouldn't stop you from vomiting.