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[melancholyc418]

Nausea is induced by a variety of chemicals like dopamine serotonin histamine ACh etc.

What if I take
Meclizine an antihistamine
Zofran for serotonin
Metoclopramide for dopamine

I use sugar free mints and benzocaine spray for SN taste

Prepare multiple drinks

Prepare a Benzo OD, thinking 300-500 mg Valium

No beta blocker
No antacid

 

[lebrodude]

Seems reasonable enough.
I feel the benzos to induce unconsciousness quicker is a must for me personally, I have concern about the dose though, even 5mg of diazepam really puts me out of it. My main fear is vomiting out the Sn whilst passed out.

 

[melancholyc418]

Seems reasonable enough.
I feel the benzos to induce unconsciousness quicker is a must for me personally, I have concern about the dose though, even 5mg of diazepam really puts me out of it. My main fear is vomiting out the Sn whilst passed out.

Im benzo naive, I was thinking Id need a drug induced unconscioussness

 

[CringeNihilism]

ODing on benzos can you pass out rapidly before SN is absorbed in your gut, You won't be able to take another spare glass of SN in case vomiting occurs.

 

[melancholyc418]

ODing on benzos can you pass out rapidly before SN is absorbed in your gut, You won't be able to take another spare glass of SN in case vomiting occurs.

You think I could vomit unconsciously? Could I be horizontal so it just stays in my system?

 

[CringeNihilism]

Yes you can vomit while being unconscious And lying horizontally isn't a good idea either because if you vomit, The vomit will likely enter you trachea and cause respiratory problems like respiratory distress syndrome or just block your airway and let you die.

 

[melancholyc418]

Yes you can vomit while being unconscious And lying horizontally isn't a good idea either because if you vomit, The vomit will likely enter you trachea and cause respiratory problems like respiratory distress syndrome or just block your airway and let you die.

Isnt that good ??

 

[lebrodude]

Isnt that good ??

Dying choking on your own vomit always seemed like such an undignified way to go but yeah I guess it fulfils your aim.

 

[melancholyc418]

Dying choking on your own vomit always seemed like such an undignified way to go but yeah I guess it fulfils your aim.

well im being immature. Im saying if im unconscious wouldnt it just kill me? Or will my body try to expel it unconsciously so its not absorbed with me waking up with a permanently damaged trachea

 

[lebrodude]

well im being immature. Im saying if im unconscious wouldnt it just kill me? Or will my body try to expel it unconsciously so its not absorbed with me waking up with a permanently damaged trachea

It could kill you yeah. If you are unconscious on your back and you vomit it may settle in your windpipe and you can't expel it and slowly asphyxiate.

Of course if you are unconscious during this then you won't be aware of it so job done, just not in the way you expected with SN.

 

[CringeNihilism]

It could kill you yeah. If you are unconscious on your back and you vomit it may settle in your windpipe and you can't expel it and slowly asphyxiate.

Of course if you are unconscious during this then you won't be aware of it so job done, just not in the way you expected with SN.

I think it's risky, aspiration pneumonia is a bitch if you managed to survive and left untreated. Why not just take the normal dose of benzos? you will eventually pass out anyways.

 

[melancholyc418]

Dying choking on your own vomit always seemed like such an undignified way to go but yeah I guess it fulfils your aim.

It could kill you yeah. If you are unconscious on your back and you vomit it may settle in your windpipe and you can't expel it and slowly asphyxiate.

Of course if you are unconscious during this then you won't be aware of it so job done, just not in the way you expected with SN.

I know Im being annoying with all these benzo threads but Im basically trying to figure out a way to make it work. Ive never taken benzos before, this makes me think I could fall asleep easily. Im thinking of using more antiemetics for this reason. I feel like if I drink at the same time, I'd lie down horizontally and fall asleep. Do you thibk I can move unconsciously or do you think its a surefire way if dying by vomit asphyxiation
Im afraid of vomitting for hours. How will I know I will fall asleep?

 

[lebrodude]

I know Im being annoying with all these benzo threads but Im basically trying to figure out a way to make it work. Ive never taken benzos before, this makes me think I could fall asleep easily. Im thinking of using more antiemetics for this reason. I feel like if I drink at the same time, I'd lie down horizontally and fall asleep. Do you thibk I can move unconsciously or do you think its a surefire way if dying by vomit asphyxiation

There's no way to tell for sure what will happen. You may vomit, you may not. I think the important thing is if you do vomit then immediately take the second glass or abort and call for help.

If you vomit whilst unconscious then it's entirely down to luck. You may have ingested enough SN to kill you, you may choke to death on your own vomit or you may wake up very much not dead.

The benzo dose is complicated, I also struggle with it. Like you I have a low tolerance to them so doesn't take a lot to really affect me. I'm just wary of a failed attempt because the benzos took me out too soon and I vomited the SN out.

 

[lukas19]

You think I could vomit unconsciously? Could I be horizontal so it just stays in my system?

Don't worry most of the time you vomit when unconsciously, you will choke on your vomit and choke to death

 

[janejackson]

There's no way to tell for sure what will happen. You may vomit, you may not. I think the important thing is if you do vomit then immediately take the second glass or abort and call for help.

If you vomit whilst unconscious then it's entirely down to luck. You may have ingested enough SN to kill you, you may choke to death on your own vomit or you may wake up very much not dead.

The benzo dose is complicated, I also struggle with it. Like you I have a low tolerance to them so doesn't take a lot to really affect me. I'm just wary of a failed attempt because the benzos took me out too soon and I vomited the SN out.

I agree with this completely. If you take enough benzodiazepines to pass out, if you do vomit, you'll not have a chance to drink a second glass or abort.

If you are benzo naive, you might want to experiment first to see how many you can take before you fall asleep.

I have Xanax. I'm struggling with how many to take as well. I think I'm just going to take 1 or 2 mg an hour before for the calm and to help fight SI. I don't want to fall asleep.

While it would be great to be knocked out within minutes due to a benzo OD, I don't think the risk to overall success is worth it, personally. Let's be real: SN seems like a good method overall, but it's not N.

As a note, benzodiazepines have some antiemetic effects.

 

[Dubito]

Why can't Philip Nitschke discuss this here with us. But his methods are made for assisted dying as i just read. So there is no problems with vomiting after unconsciousness because someone is there.

 

[Kta1994]

I agree with this completely. If you take enough benzodiazepines to pass out, if you do vomit, you'll not have a chance to drink a second glass or abort.

If you are benzo naive, you might want to experiment first to see how many you can take before you fall asleep.

I have Xanax. I'm struggling with how many to take as well. I think I'm just going to take 1 or 2 mg an hour before for the calm and to help fight SI. I don't want to fall asleep.

While it would be great to be knocked out within minutes due to a benzo OD, I don't think the risk to overall success is worth it, personally. Let's be real: SN seems like a good method overall, but it's not N.

As a note, benzodiazepines have some antiemetic effects.

Most people that vomit die from what ive seen, if you do AE its very unlikely that youll get the chance to vomit all the poison out.

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

No need to overdo benzos. There really isn't. If you have never taken benzos before, I advise to do it in the days leading up so you understand your own tolerance and dosage requirements. You only need enough to relax yourself, and it'll already help knock you out and then the SN will do the rest. This still gives opportunity to take the second glass if it's really necessary.

If you go crazy ODing on benzos it adds an element of unpredictability around vomiting. I dunno why they reccomend this. Just take a normal amount...

 

[Shadowlord900]

I think the most important drug for vomit prevention you can take is indeed the dopamine blocker. So as long as you have that and your other anti-nausea drugs do not have any bad interactions with your dopamine blocker, more steps taken to prevent vomiting can only be a good thing.

It has definitely given me food for thought. I wonder now whether I should include an antihistamine and serotonin to my regimen up to my drug cocktail OD.

I still think what others suggest in regards to benzo usage is best and you shouldn't try to make the benzo knock you out before the SN does. Even with the combination of 3 different kinds of anti-nausea drugs, vomiting could still be a possibility, and you want to be conscious to make sure you can take a backup glass if in case that happens.

 

[wellherewego_]

Nausea is induced by a variety of chemicals like dopamine serotonin histamine ACh etc.

What if I take
Meclizine an antihistamine
Zofran for serotonin
Metoclopramide for dopamine

I use sugar free mints and benzocaine spray for SN taste

Prepare multiple drinks

Prepare a Benzo OD, thinking 300-500 mg Valium

No beta blocker
No antacid

Have you attempted yet? Curious about your plan if this is allowed to post.