Terminally ill
Member
- May 27, 2019
- 95
theres another failed attempt with SN that you could add , here is the thread of Kaluka: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-experience-with-sn.13654/
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TAW122
Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
- 6,650
Bookmarked and thanks for providing the data. Also, for SN, it looks like (just based on this sample data in the docs) the success rate is 78.9% which is still very reliable and good.
Also, just as a request, if you are able to or want to, would you also log success rates with firearms? I don't believe I would be doing that since I'm mostly devoting my energy into tying loose ends, getting ready and bracing myself to CTB, then also gathering all my notes and resources (mainly for others to reference and what not, since I want to pass the torch before I CTB).
Also, just as a request, if you are able to or want to, would you also log success rates with firearms? I don't believe I would be doing that since I'm mostly devoting my energy into tying loose ends, getting ready and bracing myself to CTB, then also gathering all my notes and resources (mainly for others to reference and what not, since I want to pass the torch before I CTB).
Most of the failed cases appear to be where people were found or called an ambulance themselves. If we exclude those cases, then the percentage success rate is probably quite a bit higher....
lambgf
the void will lead into my arms
- Jan 15, 2020
- 40
I found another SN attempt that you could add:
The post is from December 26, 2019. User was last seen on December 26, 2019.
The post is from December 26, 2019. User was last seen on December 26, 2019.
Some analysis for a couple of the failure cases that didn't appear to be due to being found or calling an ambulance....
@Suicidal4Ever case
Quotes from the thread :
"About to take 3 benzo's and and a beer. Then i'll get 100ml of cold water with 3 teaspoons of sn take it all in shot glasses."
"I'm already drunk hopefully that helps i can lay down and be out like a rock in seconds."
"I mixed in some tabasco and im sippin"
"Hot sauce helps me with nausea."
"F this its to damn salty. Rather drink vodka straight. Maybe i drunk enough to get the job done."
"No. Doubt i took enough. Going to sleep hope i dont wake up."
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So :
No antiemetic taken.
No antacid.
Not known if they fasted.
Was drinking alcohol.
Used 100ml water instead of 50ml.
Maybe didn't drink full amount.
The biggest factor is probably that they were drinking alcohol (you are supposed to fast and have an empty stomach).
On the thread of that attempt, someone posted this :
Plus : "Maybe i drunk enough to get the job done" and "Doubt i took enough" means we're not sure how much they took.
Overall, it doesn't appear they followed the protocol very closely....
It seems they later had another attempt, and succeeded :
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@Mich517 case
Quotes from the thread plus later quotes from that member :
"I've decided to ingest 20g of SN dissolved in 100ml of DMSO."
"I have a little headache now, because a few hours earlier I ate a lot of crisps."
"I vomited. I don't know how much I have that in my stomach now, but I think that much of them has been puked."
"I had to throw up right after drinking Sodium Nitrite (dissolved in DMSO)"
"I didn't take any anti-emetics, I thought that DMSO do the job. I don't feel any damage now. My attempt was about 1-2 months ago."
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So :
No antiemetic taken.
No antacid.
They didn't fast.
Used DMSO instead of water.
So again, it doesn't appear they followed the protocol very closely....
Also, they vomited almost immediately (so very little chance for absorption), and didn't drink any more....
For people who closely followed the protocol, it seems the only failures are the ones where they were found or called an ambulance themselves....
@Suicidal4Ever case
Quotes from the thread :
"About to take 3 benzo's and and a beer. Then i'll get 100ml of cold water with 3 teaspoons of sn take it all in shot glasses."
"I'm already drunk hopefully that helps i can lay down and be out like a rock in seconds."
"I mixed in some tabasco and im sippin"
"Hot sauce helps me with nausea."
"F this its to damn salty. Rather drink vodka straight. Maybe i drunk enough to get the job done."
"No. Doubt i took enough. Going to sleep hope i dont wake up."
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So :
No antiemetic taken.
No antacid.
Not known if they fasted.
Was drinking alcohol.
Used 100ml water instead of 50ml.
Maybe didn't drink full amount.
The biggest factor is probably that they were drinking alcohol (you are supposed to fast and have an empty stomach).
On the thread of that attempt, someone posted this :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/taking-sn-tonight.19977/post-375402
Overall, it doesn't appear they followed the protocol very closely....
It seems they later had another attempt, and succeeded :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/trying-sn-tonight.23785/
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@Mich517 case
Quotes from the thread plus later quotes from that member :
"I've decided to ingest 20g of SN dissolved in 100ml of DMSO."
"I have a little headache now, because a few hours earlier I ate a lot of crisps."
"I vomited. I don't know how much I have that in my stomach now, but I think that much of them has been puked."
"I had to throw up right after drinking Sodium Nitrite (dissolved in DMSO)"
"I didn't take any anti-emetics, I thought that DMSO do the job. I don't feel any damage now. My attempt was about 1-2 months ago."
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So :
No antiemetic taken.
No antacid.
They didn't fast.
Used DMSO instead of water.
So again, it doesn't appear they followed the protocol very closely....
Also, they vomited almost immediately (so very little chance for absorption), and didn't drink any more....
For people who closely followed the protocol, it seems the only failures are the ones where they were found or called an ambulance themselves....
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Terminally ill
Member
- May 27, 2019
- 95
For Divine trinity you can add this to the explanation document:- https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/first-ever-sn-documentation.29734/page-4#post-543612
"I took SN and other than the burning sensations (minor to me), I can't remember much after laying down. The burning is similar to acid reflux in the esophagus and stomach, slightly worse since it lingers. Like multiple people have stated it taste pretty bad, but if you've had hospital cocktails before it's a minor drawback. I'd have like to hear if stomach coating meds like Sucralfate could work with SN, but Stan and Ginger are gone. Meto and SN are a bit rough on the stomach.
Compared to blowing my skull open, 100 runs of extreme hangman, parachuting w/e the parachute, drinking round-up, kissing moving transport vehicles, snorting excessive quantities of water, or a 9-5, SN was pretty peaceful. Only reason I survived was because someone called the cops after I was under, woke up handcuffed to the hospital bed. "
For zajebistakaczka this is the thread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/hate-to-say-it.22918/.She was taken to the ER, but she doesnt mention the treatement given- if she was administred Methyleneblue or something like that.
For Dartz- well he didnt throw up and wasnt found . He just made these coments on the profile that you can add:" blue lips, blue hands, lot of blood thrown up, organs scrambled, SN you failed me Q:"Kikoo Loool Omg why? Didn't uoi follow the regimen? A: Nope just have a very stubborn body, not the first fatal encounter I've somehow survived lmao
"I took SN and other than the burning sensations (minor to me), I can't remember much after laying down. The burning is similar to acid reflux in the esophagus and stomach, slightly worse since it lingers. Like multiple people have stated it taste pretty bad, but if you've had hospital cocktails before it's a minor drawback. I'd have like to hear if stomach coating meds like Sucralfate could work with SN, but Stan and Ginger are gone. Meto and SN are a bit rough on the stomach.
Compared to blowing my skull open, 100 runs of extreme hangman, parachuting w/e the parachute, drinking round-up, kissing moving transport vehicles, snorting excessive quantities of water, or a 9-5, SN was pretty peaceful. Only reason I survived was because someone called the cops after I was under, woke up handcuffed to the hospital bed. "
For zajebistakaczka this is the thread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/hate-to-say-it.22918/.She was taken to the ER, but she doesnt mention the treatement given- if she was administred Methyleneblue or something like that.
For Dartz- well he didnt throw up and wasnt found . He just made these coments on the profile that you can add:" blue lips, blue hands, lot of blood thrown up, organs scrambled, SN you failed me Q:"Kikoo Loool Omg why? Didn't uoi follow the regimen? A: Nope just have a very stubborn body, not the first fatal encounter I've somehow survived lmao
Quote from Dartz :
"I've died of a deliberate heroin OD before and bear in mind my body can take vastly more abuse than most."
"I've died of a deliberate heroin OD before and bear in mind my body can take vastly more abuse than most."
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...idering-sn-instead-thoughts.27120/post-491481
Ἡγησίας
Student
- May 20, 2019
- 191
lambgf
the void will lead into my arms
- Jan 15, 2020
- 40
This might be another successful one:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-drink.23351/
note : This post discusses some points regarding the validity of the "success" cases :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-successful-and-unsuccessful.30211/post-578562
LostAllHope7651
Unsure what’s the point anymore.. life is so hard
- Feb 15, 2020
- 144
Thank you for that very sad but interesting read...
Why are the tablets and things people are taking the same throughout... so confused x
Why are the tablets and things people are taking the same throughout... so confused x
Yaalya
Member
- May 7, 2019
- 93
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-still-alive.12002/
is this a failed attempt?
AlreadyGone
Taking it day by day
- Jan 11, 2020
- 917
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,728
I suggest reading Stan's guide to SN. It's linked in the Resources megathread. It will explain all the tablets and how they apply to the method.
Not_Quite_Dead_Yet
Student
- Oct 27, 2018
- 134
Passersby
Trapped in space and time
- Aug 29, 2019
- 1,619
Hi, Does anybody know if Metalchic wasn't successful and is still alive? I thought she was successful in ctb? Someone even said they read her obituary but I just happened to read a thread and she had an older comment in it and I clicked on it and her profile said that she was last seen on Jan 30th 2020 but she ctb on nov 2019? Any ideas? I happend to be in here live during her attempt so was just wondering? Yeah the organized info on this is great by the way. Must have taken a long time. We are now getting a good bit of feedback and what seems to at least be reliable info for this method .
Those sheets are keeping a track of people who have used one particular method, which is the SN method. So it is not surprising that the people on them have been following similar protocols....
As @GoodPersonEffed states, to learn more about SN, have a read of Stan's guide :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-a-comprehensive-guide-including-method.25148
LostAllHope7651
Unsure what’s the point anymore.. life is so hard
- Feb 15, 2020
- 144
another success case :
I believe we may get confirmation for that case, probably from @Myforevercharlie
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/farewell.32144/
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,728
I wanted to see what symptoms were most common. On Feb. 6, I Iooked at each success for reported symptoms, counted those that claimed taking 15 g or more of SN (included one that listed the regimen meticulously but called it the SN drink so I assumed 20+ g), there were 13 total. These were the reported symptoms:
8 Tachycardia - 61%
6 Nausea - 46%
6 Sedation - 46%
5 Lightheadedness/feeling faint - 38%
5 Vomiting - 38%
4 Throat pain/discomfort/burning - 31%
4 Feeling warm/hot - 31%
3 Difficulty breathing - 23%
3 Dizziness - 23%
3 Shakiness - 23%
2 Coughing - 15%
2 Vision changes - 15%
2 Headache - 15%
2 Heavy body or extremities -15%
1 Slow breathing - 15%
1 Feeling cold - 8%
1 Peace or euphoria - 8%
1 Tingling extremities - 8%
1 Feeling drunk - 8%
1 Thirst - 8%
1 Calm - 8%
1 Dry heaving - 8%
1 Loud heartbeat - 8%
1 Relaxation - 8%
1 Burning stomach - 8%
1 Body/limb spasms - 8%
1 Stomach discomfort - 8%
1 Thirst - 8%
I looked at the failures following the same criteria, but there was a lot of iffyness in many of the reports, even about the amounts ingested, so I abandoned the project. The reported symptoms of the first 8 that I attempted to document were mostly the same as the successes, except that only 2 reported tachycardia. It's possible the accounts were less clear because of reported dissociation and many having lost consciousness, and most were documenting after having received emergency treatment so the events were no longer fresh.
There may have been accounts added to the documents on this thread since Feb. 6, but this was a one-time project for my own benefit, I won't be updating it.
8 Tachycardia - 61%
6 Nausea - 46%
6 Sedation - 46%
5 Lightheadedness/feeling faint - 38%
5 Vomiting - 38%
4 Throat pain/discomfort/burning - 31%
4 Feeling warm/hot - 31%
3 Difficulty breathing - 23%
3 Dizziness - 23%
3 Shakiness - 23%
2 Coughing - 15%
2 Vision changes - 15%
2 Headache - 15%
2 Heavy body or extremities -15%
1 Slow breathing - 15%
1 Feeling cold - 8%
1 Peace or euphoria - 8%
1 Tingling extremities - 8%
1 Feeling drunk - 8%
1 Thirst - 8%
1 Calm - 8%
1 Dry heaving - 8%
1 Loud heartbeat - 8%
1 Relaxation - 8%
1 Burning stomach - 8%
1 Body/limb spasms - 8%
1 Stomach discomfort - 8%
1 Thirst - 8%
I looked at the failures following the same criteria, but there was a lot of iffyness in many of the reports, even about the amounts ingested, so I abandoned the project. The reported symptoms of the first 8 that I attempted to document were mostly the same as the successes, except that only 2 reported tachycardia. It's possible the accounts were less clear because of reported dissociation and many having lost consciousness, and most were documenting after having received emergency treatment so the events were no longer fresh.
There may have been accounts added to the documents on this thread since Feb. 6, but this was a one-time project for my own benefit, I won't be updating it.
Mustkeyknow
Experienced
- Feb 8, 2020
- 275
A high percentage I would expect. Do you think there's a strong motivation for large numbers of people to fabricate such things ?
Sure, there could be the odd case, but large numbers of cases ?
note : This post discusses some points regarding the validity of the "success" cases :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-successful-and-unsuccessful.30211/post-578562
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
@Living sucks noticed that there are more cases :) For example:
Indeed in recent weeks there has been several 'tastings' , 'tests' and 'trials' ; a member that got up to pee during SN intake ; etc .
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/drinking-sn-now.31735/
Indeed in recent weeks there has been several 'tastings' , 'tests' and 'trials' ; a member that got up to pee during SN intake ; etc .
Amazing work by OP.. .. Both success n failure cases very insightful... Thx for others aswell who have added more posts of success/ failure. Hope I get the courage to ctb ny SN soon. My SI sucks ..
Unfortunately more to add.
@DeathPurgatory
Guessing she followed thru but no additional posts
@roor
@DeathPurgatory
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ming-room-booked-for-2-days.31786/post-588441
Guessing she followed thru but no additional posts
@roor
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/planning-to-ctb-tonight-sn.36596/post-679341
@ninja_darylhttps://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/thanks-and-goodbye-sn.36669/post-680099
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one4all
I'll put pennies on your eyes and it will go away.
- Feb 3, 2020
- 3,455
You sure about Taran? The member is still active in the forum.
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