Discussion SN and Propranolol

[Sunset Limited]

Propranolol could be good idea before taking SN? Around 20% - 50% methemoglobin may cause symptoms such as respiratory distress, dizziness, headache, fatigue and tachycardia. Taking propranolol and beta blockers (verapamil) can work before loss of consciousness? Also low heartbeat can lead to earlier unconsciousness? I have read that propranolol also suppresses extreme excitement. It can help suppress life instinct. Maybe 20mg of propranolol and verapamil? think to take "apranax forte" for headache. But too many pills now!!! Is this good idea?

Meto 30-40 mg stat (1 hour before SN) (48 hours meto regime ofc)
Apranax forte - painkiller (2 hour before SN)
Propranolol (1 hour before SN)
Verapamil (1 hour before SN)
Acid Regulator (45 mins before SN)

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[Rachel74]

Propranolol could be good idea before taking SN? Around 20% - 50% methemoglobin may cause symptoms such as respiratory distress, dizziness, headache, fatigue and tachycardia. Taking propranolol and beta blockers (verapamil) can work before loss of consciousness? Also low heartbeat can lead to earlier unconsciousness? I have read that propranolol also suppresses extreme excitement. It can help suppress life instinct. Maybe 20mg of propranolol and verapamil? think to take "apranax forte" for headache. But too many pills now!!! Is this good idea?

Meto 30-40 mg stat (1 hour before SN)
Apranax forte - painkiller (2 hour before SN)
Propranolol (1 hour before SN)
Verapamil (1 hour before SN)
Acid Regulator (45 mins before SN)

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Be good if we had a Doctor or Pharmacist on here.

 

[Dubs]

I've asked this on other pages, but any idea about alcohol consumption in that last hour? If there is beer in the stomach would it prevent SN from making a big enough impact?

 

[Rachel74]

I've asked this on other pages, but any idea about alcohol consumption in that last hour? If there is beer in the stomach would it prevent SN from making a big enough impact?

I know juice does so you need to just stick to water.

 

[woxihuanni]

No alcohol, definitely, as I understand it (it does the opposite of what the acid reg does). @gingerplum may be able to help with the rest.

 

[Sunset Limited]

I've asked this on other pages, but any idea about alcohol consumption in that last hour? If there is beer in the stomach would it prevent SN from making a big enough impact?

We need 8 hours of starvation as far as I know. SN is very fragile. I think your stomach should be empty.

 

[gingerplum]

No alcohol, definitely, as I understand it (it does the opposite of what the acid reg does). @gingerplum may be able to help with the rest.

I'm not sure what the value added is of taking calcium channel blockers or beta blockers (Verapamil, Propanalol) prior to the SN... I think in a healthy individual they're not going to make much of a difference, ie tachycardia (low heart rate) or loss of consciousness, unless it were several times the recommended dose.

Alcohol will likely not make much of a difference either way, if you normally tolerate it well, although yes, it does increase gastric acid, but I don't think it would happen quickly enough to make a difference. The whole point of the H2 blockers (acid reducer) and the antiemetics is to keep the SN down and digested. If you think you can do that with alcohol, go to town; I don't see how the two would interact adversely, not that it matters much.

I would much prefer to pre-medicate with benzos for anxiety.

Long story short, you're overthinking it. If you want to take something and you think you can keep it down, go ahead.

Disclaimer: I am not a physician or a pharmacist, and anything I can offer here is largely speculative based on what I know about physiology and how meds work. I can offer insight based on my knowledge and experience, but again, I'm postulating.

 

[Neville1]

Good thought. In his latest videos, PN has said that some are combining 20g SN with 2g propranolol. Tachycardia results from body trying to compensate for decreased oxygen; propranolol thwarts this. Unconscious and death should be quicker.

Still I might agree with @gingerplum.

For the video:

On exit website, enter "Livestream" in search box upper right, in results select yudu frame item. Currently Amsterdam 6 July presentation.

 

[Sunset Limited]

In his latest videos, PN has said that some are combining 20g SN with 2g propranolol. Tachycardia results from body trying to compensate for decreased oxygen; propranolol thwarts this. Unconscious and death should be quicker.

Still I might agree with @gingerplum.

For the video:

I think propranolol + verapamil will work. I'm thinking of taking SN when the beta blocker starts to work. I'm worried about their interactions with other drugs. I'il ask the pharmacy. In addition, propranolol is used as a sedative in exhilarating excitement and adrenaline-releasing activities. It could make CTB easier.

 

[Rachel74]

I'm not sure what the value added is of taking calcium channel blockers or beta blockers (Verapamil, Propanalol) prior to the SN... I think in a healthy individual they're not going to make much of a difference, ie tachycardia (low heart rate) or loss of consciousness, unless it were several times the recommended dose.

Alcohol will likely not make much of a difference either way, if you normally tolerate it well, although yes, it does increase gastric acid, but I don't think it would happen quickly enough to make a difference. The whole point of the H2 blockers (acid reducer) and the antiemetics is to keep the SN down and digested. If you think you can do that with alcohol, go to town; I don't see how the two would interact adversely, not that it matters much.

I would much prefer to pre-medicate with benzos for anxiety.

Long story short, you're overthinking it. If you want to take something and you think you can keep it down, go ahead.

Disclaimer: I am not a physician or a pharmacist, and anything I can offer here is largely speculative based on what I know about physiology and how meds work. I can offer insight based on my knowledge and experience, but again, I'm postulating.

And thank you, your advise is really comforting

 

[gingerplum]

In addition, propranolol is used as a sedative in exhilarating excitement and adrenaline-releasing activities. It could make CTB easier.

As someone who has taken Propanolol out of medical necessity... no. Not so much. Not at all, actually, or not with prescribed doses, anyway. I can't believe it would ever be used medically for any sedative properties, but hey, stranger things have happened.

2gm of Propanalol is probably lethal on it's own. Keep in mind that surviving from such a massive dose will NOT have a favorable outcome; the electrical conduction of your heart will be FUBAR. The last thing you want is to lose consciousness from this prior to taking the SN.

 

[woxihuanni]

As someone who has taken Propanolol out of medical necessity... no. Not so much. Not at all, actually, or not with prescribed doses, anyway. I can't believe it would ever be used medically for any sedative properties, but hey, stranger things have happened.

2gm of Propanalol is probably lethal on it's own. Keep in mind that surviving from such a massive dose will NOT have a favorable outcome; the electrical conduction of your heart will be FUBAR. The last thing you want is to lose consciousness from this prior to taking the SN.

What say to ODing on both blockers (p&v) and SN, with a long regime of meto and promethazine? Unncessary risk? Double measure?

 

[gingerplum]

What say to ODing on both blockers (p&v) and SN, with a long regime of meto and promethazine? Unncessary risk? Double measure?

Plenty of people have exited via SN alone; however, I understand the need the make a plan that's absolutely failsafe. Nothing wrong with redundancy; again, just make sure the SN follows the cardiac meds. The idea of surviving with massive heart damage scares me.

 

[Sunset Limited]

As someone who has taken Propanolol out of medical necessity... no. Not so much. Not at all, actually, or not with prescribed doses, anyway. I can't believe it would ever be used medically for any sedative properties, but hey, stranger things have happened.

2gm of Propanalol is probably lethal on it's own. Keep in mind that surviving from such a massive dose will NOT have a favorable outcome; the electrical conduction of your heart will be FUBAR. The last thing you want is to lose consciousness from this prior to taking the SN.

Actually it works. I am a musician. I have friends who use it before they go on stage. Students also have uses in exams in turkey. Effects may vary by person. At the moment of excitement, it lowers the heart rate. It is widely used in Turkey and OTC. I'm thinking of taking 20mg.

 

[gingerplum]

Actually it works. I am a musician. I have friends who use it before they go on stage. Students also have uses in exams in turkey. Effects may vary by person. At the moment of excitement, it lowers the heart rate. It is widely used in Turkey and OTC. I'm thinking of taking 20mg.

No shit? Well, I'll be ding-danged. I swear, the more I know, the more I realize how much there is I don't know. Thank you for the info; I'll do some research myself.

 

[Darkhaven]

Well that at least is one i can easily get. Doctors prescribe it a lot for my disease. I don't take it anymore but i still have some of it stacked up.

 

[Sunset Limited]

No shit? Well, I'll be ding-danged. I swear, the more I know, the more I realize how much there is I don't know. Thank you for the info; I'll do some research myself.

Turkish people are a medical guinea pig. Meto is OTC too. So many things OTC, pharmacies are look like the market

 

[gingerplum]

Turkish people are a medical guinea pig. Meto is OTC too. So many things OTC, pharmacies are look like the market

Meto OTC. Amazing.

 

[Chantal]

As someone who has taken Propanolol out of medical necessity... no. Not so much. Not at all, actually, or not with prescribed doses, anyway. I can't believe it would ever be used medically for any sedative properties, but hey, stranger things have happened.

2gm of Propanalol is probably lethal on it's own. Keep in mind that surviving from such a massive dose will NOT have a favorable outcome; the electrical conduction of your heart will be FUBAR. The last thing you want is to lose consciousness from this prior to taking the SN.

@gingerplum, I survived 6.000mg of Propranolol. In January of this year I took 150 pills of Propranolol 40mg plus 120mg of clonazepan plus 3,000mg of dimenhydrinate. I still don't know how the heck I survived.

 

[Stan]

We have to remember why Propanolol was suggested in the first place by PN. People who took SN said that they had the feeling of a racing heart, not painful but it was a weird feeling. When it was suggested Propanolol was a solution in his live feed broadcast, I feel it was more of a throwaway comment rather than an essential component to the regimen. Reduces a symptom, fine if you can get hold of a prescription only drug in most places - essential - no.
We have to remember why Propanolol was suggested in the first place by PN. People who took SN said that they had the feeling of a racing heart, not painful but it was a weird feeling. When it was suggested Propanolol was a solution in his live feed broadcast, I feel it was more of a throwaway comment rather than an essential component to the regimen. Reduces a symptom, fine if you can get hold of a prescription only drug in most places - essential - no.

 

[gingerplum]

@gingerplum, I survived 6.000mg of Propranolol. In January of this year I took 150 pills of Propranolol 40mg plus 120mg of clonazepan plus 3,000mg of dimenhydrinate. I still don't know how the heck I survived.

Holy fuck. Did you have any residual cardiac issues??

 

[JimFord99]

@gingerplum, I survived 6.000mg of Propranolol. In January of this year I took 150 pills of Propranolol 40mg plus 120mg of clonazepan plus 3,000mg of dimenhydrinate. I still don't know how the heck I survived.

Bloody hell.

 

[Chantal]

Holy fuck. Did you have any residual cardiac issues??

Unfortunately I just got a circulatory problem, which is under control.

 

[JimFord99]

Good to hear that

 

[Chantal]

I really want to understand how people survive such high doses of deadly drugs as I did. Just like prisoners who survive lethal injections.

 

[purplefroggirl]

So when people try overdosing on Propranolol and survive, what are the complications after?

 

[RightToExit]

So, turns out my propanolol, which I ordered from the link that the September PPH update added, did not arrive. I don't know if it was seized by customs, or if they faked the tracking and never sent it.

I also agree with gingerplum that it's not essential for cbt, but I still wanted it because I expect it to be faster and more reliable that way.

How would you fine people go about getting propanolol? I do have tachykardia sometimes, but it's undiagnosed. Could I just walk into a doctor's office and simply ask for a prescription? It doesn't seem like something people would just ask for.

Damn, I was really hoping for that package.

 

[woxihuanni]

So, turns out my propanolol, which I ordered from the link that the September PPH update added, did not arrive. I don't know if it was seized by customs, or if they faked the tracking and never sent it.

I also agree with gingerplum that it's not essential for cbt, but I still wanted it because I expect it to be faster and more reliable that way.

How would you fine people go about getting propanolol? I do have tachykardia sometimes, but it's undiagnosed. Could I just walk into a doctor's office and simply ask for a prescription? It doesn't seem like something people would just ask for.

Damn, I was really hoping for that package.

For what it is worth, I tried to get it from a shrink lying that I have anxiety and truthfully saying it can be a treatment for that. He didn't give it, fucker. You can be more wily and get it, who knows?

But part of me thinks it's not worth raising the risk for puking the entire thing up. 2g propranolol is a lot of pills.

 

[RightToExit]

For what it is worth, I tried to get it from a shrink lying that I have anxiety and truthfully saying it can be a treatment for that. He didn't give it, fucker. You can be more wily and get it, who knows?

But part of me thinks it's not worth raising the risk for puking the entire thing up. 2g propranolol is a lot of pills.

Yeah, but you're already swallowing the vile liquid (if you don't use capsules, and that's a lot of capsules), so dissolving 2g of propanolol in addition to the 25g SN you're already swallowing seems very doable.

Btw, it still annoys me that we even need permission of a doctor to buy something like that. I know exactly what it does, am willing to pay, why do I need to ask a paid gatekeeper who adds no value to my life for permission? And then they can arbitrarily deny the permission, but they still get paid! Absurd.

 

[Dubs]

I'm just gonna do like .5g. Presumably that will help a bit.