Help Sn and fire: no autopsy

[Daenerys Targaryen]

I've been terrified about the


autopsy for days, and I'm afraid I'll survive SN and not really be dead, and I think I might, and they'll open me up alive. It terrifies me. So, I wondered if you could take SN and leave a lit candle in your room and then mark the floor with gasoline or alcohol. Then, when you're about to faint from SN, you knock over the candle and set the room on fire. What do you think of that idea? Vore carbonization. That way, there wouldn't be an autopsy.|

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Do you live alone? In a house or apartment?

The fire risks spreading and catching fire to the entire building you live in, even to neighboring properties. You're risking innocent people with that.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

I know, with my parents, but it would be the last option. When there's no one home, I would do it. Plus, they're planning on moving to an apartment, so I'd burn myself alone with the SN here, but I don't know. I'm afraid of this. I've thought about it, but I haven't heard about it. Fuck the neighbors. I live in a small town in Spain, so in case of a fire, they'd come immediately, but setting a fire around my bed plus the SN, I don't think there'd be any more. I prefer that to an autopsy and staying alive. Another option would be to connect gasoline lines to the windows and doors, and when I'm about to lose consciousness with SN, I'll throw away the candle because I won't have enough to light a lighter. How do you see it?
I mean, SN plus fire, and if you lose consciousness you can't escape. Plus, the smoke kills you too, I don't know. I've been thinking about this for days.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

Seems to me like an unnecessary complication with too my elements that can go wrong (and a potentially damaging to others one at that) considering they're gonna check for pulse among other things before proceeding with an autopsy. Plus, you don't get sent immediately for an autopsy, it takes time after you're found AND declared dead: in the extremely rare case of catalepsy you would likely snap out of it by then...and that's if SN can cause such a state, something that hasn't been documented. It probably wouldn't require a full autopsy anyways since the signs of SN poisoning are rather obvious and can be tested in other ways, a suicide note explaining what you took would also make an autopsy redundant.

 

[finebaum87]

Maybe you want to die in a big blaze because you will be reborn in the fire as the mother of dragons?

 

[rozeske]

An autopsy on a live person is unheard of... in the history of mankind if I had to take a wild guess. It's literally a process designed to find out why and how a person died. A person needs to be dead first to check the cause of death. Don't put other people's lives and property in danger unnecessary.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Also, the floor of my house is made of wood and with the fire, carbon monoxide would be released, that is, there would be 3 methods in 1.
How do you see it? I would be alone then.
My fear is being left with catalepsy or damage from SN, who knows. No, I won't put my family at risk, but this SN method with the fire that releases carbon monoxide would be more than enough. The fear is that I'll burn alive, even though I'm not actually dead with SN. It's a bit complicated, to be honest, but before they perform an autopsy, I'd definitely be charred, right?

Maybe you want to die in a big blaze because you will be reborn in the fire as the mother of dragons?

That's Dracarys for me

 

[Michi_Violeta]

Also, the floor of my house is made of wood and with the fire, carbon monoxide would be released, that is, there would be 3 methods in 1.
How do you see it? I would be alone then.

It could even be counter-productive in the sense that such a large fire would draw immediate attention, much more than just someone sleeping with blue eyes, and you may end up being rescued in time for medical personnel to attempt reviving you. SN already has very high chances of success by itself, adding additional factors only complicates things instead of improving chances.

Sorry, as much as I love fire myself, this is just a bad idea.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

It could even be counter-productive in the sense that such a large fire would draw immediate attention, much more than just someone sleeping with blue eyes, and you may end up being rescued in time for medical personnel to attempt reviving you. SN already has very high chances of success by itself, adding additional factors only complicates things instead of improving chances.

Sorry, as much as I love fire myself, this is just a bad idea.

But with Sn inside? It increases the chances of success, right? It's like having Sn plus carbon monoxide released by the fire and the fire itself. Three methods in one. The bad thing is I feel it. But before the autopsy, I'm willing to do anything that's realistic.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

But with Sn inside? It increases the chances of success, right? It's like having Sn plus carbon monoxide released by the fire and the fire itself. Three methods in one. The bad thing is I feel it. But before the autopsy, I'm willing to do anything that's realistic.

Again, it's not 100% sure you get an autopsy (because it probably won't even be necessary) and it's almost certain SN will kill you by itself. Adding more layers on top of something that has a high chance of success doesn't increase those chances, quite the opposite: it adds complications. It's not three methods in one, but rather three methods against each other.

You're letting fear of an almost impossible scenario get in the way of a simple and proven method to ctb while creating a situation that may be dangerous for others.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Again, it's not 100% sure you get an autopsy (because it probably won't even be necessary) and it's almost certain SN will kill you by itself. Adding more layers on top of something that has a high chance of success doesn't increase those chances, quite the opposite: it adds complications. It's not three methods in one, but rather three methods against each other.

You're letting fear of an almost impossible scenario get in the way of a simple and proven method to ctb while creating a situation that may be dangerous for others.

But the fear is that I'm alive in the autopsy, and I can't do anything else. I'm terrified of being cut open while I'm still alive. That's why I planned this. I have to be 100% sure I'm dead. I don't know if the NS will leave me cataleptic or something like that, but it's my safe method; the rest is complementary. Also, when I'm about to lose consciousness, you throw away the candle and that's it. I've been thinking about it for days. I'll have to see the house, but I'd be alone, with no one around. I can also take alpha lipoic acid along with the NS, which would be an advantage. I don't know.
I can bear the pain of sn and fire, but I can't let them open me up, and with the clumsiness they have, they'll surely send me alive to the morgue.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

But the fear is that I'm alive in the autopsy, and I can't do anything else. I'm terrified of being cut open while I'm still alive. That's why I planned this. I have to be 100% sure I'm dead. I don't know if the NS will leave me cataleptic or something like that, but it's my safe method; the rest is complementary. Also, when I'm about to lose consciousness, you throw away the candle and that's it. I've been thinking about it for days. I'll have to see the house, but I'd be alone, with no one around. I can also take alpha lipoic acid along with the NS, which would be an advantage. I don't know.

It's an impossible scenario. There are perfectly easy ways for examiners to determine you're 100% dead before an autopsy and that's if you get an autopsy in the first place which isn't likely if it's an obvious suicide. Nobody ever has been left cataleptic by SN either and pretty much everyone who's died using that method has been able to do so without requiring anything else.

Look, I'm nobody to judge your fears or your desire to ctb, but you're putting others in danger because of an impossible scenario. Suicide is one thing, arson is something else. At best the candle goes out before it touches the ground and the SN kills you, at worse you end up destroying property, putting others in danger, and will probably end up in the back of an ambulance after they pull you out of the fire with a ton of explaining to do.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

It's an impossible scenario. There are perfectly easy ways for examiners to determine you're 100% dead before an autopsy and that's if you get an autopsy in the first place which isn't likely if it's an obvious suicide. Nobody ever has been left cataleptic by SN either and pretty much everyone who's died using that method has been able to do so without requiring anything else.

Look, I'm nobody to judge your fears or your desire to ctb, but you're putting others in danger because of an impossible scenario. Suicide is one thing, arson is something else. At best the candle goes out before it touches the ground and the SN kills you, at worse you end up destroying property, putting others in danger, and will probably end up in the back of an ambulance after they pull you out of the fire with a ton of explaining to do.

No, I would make sure I was alone, but without failing. I don't know, it's fear. In Spain, where I'm from and my country, they are very clumsy, and there have been deaths apparently by mistake, and they've sent them to the morgue alive, and that's what made me afraid. That's why I planned all this as best as possible. I'm not going to put others in my area at risk; I'll make sure of that. Fear is the autopsy. On top of that, with SN, who knows how I'll end up because of that? Fire is inevitable, plus the carbon monoxide it releases. But I can't think about failing with SN and being dismembered alive. All or almost all of the cases that occur where they send them alive to the morgue are in my country, in Spain; that's how it goes... They're very backward. On top of that, with SN... who knows. The only way is to confirm death with an EEG and EKG, and who knows if they'll do it or not. I'm really scared.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

No, I would make sure I was alone, but without failing. I don't know, it's fear. In Spain, where I'm from and my country, they are very clumsy, and there have been deaths apparently by mistake, and they've sent them to the morgue alive, and that's what made me afraid. That's why I planned all this as best as possible. I'm not going to put others in my area at risk; I'll make sure of that. Fear is the autopsy. On top of that, with SN, who knows how I'll end up because of that? Fire is inevitable, plus the carbon monoxide it releases. But I can't think about failing with SN and being dismembered alive. All or almost all of the cases that occur where they send them alive to the morgue are in my country, in Spain; that's how it goes... They're very backward. On top of that, with SN... who knows. The only way is to confirm death with an EEG and EKG, and who knows if they'll do it or not. I'm really scared.

A fire always puts others at risk, it's an uncontrollable force of nature. At the very least you're putting at risk the lives of the firemen that will be called to put the fire out.

SN has nothing to do with your nervous system so it has no causal relationship with catalepsy. There are infinitely more chances of something going wrong with the fire, including it being a literal signal for emergency services which will find you and attempt to rescue you, than there are of you ending up cataleptic thanks to SN.

And even in the cases you mention, nobody was dismembered alive because there are multiple instances where an initially mistaken diagnostic can be corrected. One was an elderly woman in Palma and the other a prisoner: neither of them had ingested a lethal amount of poison.

You're stressing yourself over a scenario that is just not possible.

 

[KillingPain267]

Sorry, but that's a stupid idea. When you're about to faint from SN, you are not yet dead. So if you knock over something flammable, you'll just be jolted awake by flames before your body shuts down from the SN.

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

I would think it highly unlikely an autopsy would be performed. They can figure out SN rather easily I think? This is just me, but, I figure if by some small chance I'm still alive when they open me up, I won't be for long anyway.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Thanks to everyone, I feel more at ease with the comments and advice, and in the end, I won't do the fire thing. I don't want to risk something going wrong, and it's true: endangering the neighbors. I'll do the SN alone and hope I don't get hurt. The problem is I can't leave the house; I'm too over-supervised and monitored, and I'd have to do it here at night or on a day without anyone else, which is highly unlikely and I wouldn't have much time. I'll keep investigating to see what I find. Why SN and hanging? I don't know; I don't see it either.
One case of a prisoner here in Spain can be found online. Gonzalo Montoya Jiménez was sent alive, which is why it gave me chills. I hope I'm truly dead with the SN, please.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

Thanks to everyone, I feel more at ease with the comments and advice, and in the end, I won't do the fire thing. I don't want to risk something going wrong, and it's true: endangering the neighbors. I'll do the SN alone and hope I don't get hurt. The problem is I can't leave the house; I'm too over-supervised and monitored, and I'd have to do it here at night or on a day without anyone else, which is highly unlikely and I wouldn't have much time. I'll keep investigating to see what I find. Why SN and hanging? I don't know; I don't see it either.
One case of a prisoner here in Spain can be found online. Gonzalo Montoya Jiménez was sent alive, which is why it gave me chills. I hope I'm truly dead with the SN, please.

I read about his case, per his family he had a history of epilepsy and had been prescribed medication for it which can explain his cataleptic episode. Seems like the prison staff were unable to consistently bring him his medicine on time. SN has no effect on the nervous system and in the recommended dose it'll most probably kill you in much less time than it took that prisoner to even receive his first medical examination.

Again, no judgment, just trying to calm your fears. Thanks for listening to us and reconsidering the whole fire idea, it was really a dangerous one.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

I read about his case, per his family he had a history of epilepsy and had been prescribed medication for it which can explain his cataleptic episode. Seems like the prison staff were unable to consistently bring him his medicine on time. SN has no effect on the nervous system and in the recommended dose it'll most probably kill you in much less time than it took that prisoner to even receive his first medical examination.

Again, no judgment, just trying to calm your fears. Thanks for listening to us and reconsidering the whole fire idea, it was really a dangerous one.

Thank you very much, I greatly appreciate your help. The prisoner reportedly had epilepsy before, which contributed to the misdiagnosis. I'm not going to put others at risk with the fire. But I prefer to wait and see more on the matter, as it works differently in each body. I don't want to fail; we have to do it and plan it as best as possible. My problem is the time I spend alone and the over-vigilance. But thank you very much.

 

[SufferingInDenmark]

wtf