Silly small favour request (internet)

[Viro_Major]

Well, good luck, I hope you get what you need.

I don't use Facebook or Amazon anymore. I've never used Apple products. I do use Windows though I'd stick to Linux if I didn't have to use Windows for specific third party design software. Much to my chagrin, I use Android and have Google accounts, though I'm tempted to nix all that and load Ubuntu on my devices, or at least test it on one.
I used to accept them data mining me as just one of the consequences of being so connected, but recently I feel like a stranger in a strange land.

Interesting take ! Also use Windows (Server) because I'm obligated to on remote machine (VPS) that need to stay awake 24h/24. Dropped iOS for Android, then replaced it on all devices (tablet & phone) with a custom ROM, LineageOS, to wipe out all the Google services away, for improved privacy. Never tried any Linux build (Lubuntu was the distro the most attractive when I was looking at it) although I was tempted to - it just appears too geeky / non mainstream to be uber productive for the average joe ?
Avid user of Amazon (even if unethical ) cause I apply -27.5% discount on the whole catalogue via cryptocurrency payments (Purse.io) so it's economical.
I'm signing again on all social networks since I got friends showcasing here and there (like art I'm fond of, on Instagram, Flickr, PX500 notably)

 

[so tired or manic]

I got rid of my Amazon Prime after he became (or was becoming?) a trillionaire, but it's just so convenient I might go back.

 

[Viro_Major]

So it worked for like a week... then I got banned permanently again yesterday.

I'm fucking disgusted cause I spent a fucking long time to buff up my profile genuinely up from the blank page it started with, resumed to get in touch with friends - old and new, was exchanging with victims of my medical syndrome about solutions in a proactive manner...and now it's gone again in mid air.
They can't review accounts properly cause my activity clearly showed I'm not a fake.
This time, by mistake I only connected behind a VPN once and here we go.
Sent again ID but that's not enough, they judge I'm an imposter. I'd make Zuckerberg eat his teeth alive if I had the occasion. I'm fucking annoyed.

 

[LittleJem]

Facebook is a) evil and b) has no customer service. I am on it - as friends are on it - but it is evil and has no customer service.

OP, I hope you win this one.

 

[Viro_Major]

Can't stop making me feel like a terrorist, can you ? Tried the 4 appeal tips of this vid only to figure out FB has downright blocked me away from all the recovery procedures I could enroll in.
Next stage is to either hire a hacker and avoid to be scammed, or send a registered letter to the headquarters of FB in Ireland. I now heard on the web about plenty of accounts in the same scenario as I am, victims of abuse. To no avail, it seems that only repeated harassement back by all canals could unlock the situation, but talk about motivation. Unfortunately, it seems I reached the highest level of disapproval in their eyes.
Why send the thunder on me ? So cute and all about innocence pfff

 

[Viro_Major]

Just realised that one of my fav subversive humorist got banned from the network recently, accused of being an antisemitism threat which in that case is a fraud motive of persecution. Gotta love the censorship & the lobbying of the cults

Where to lock the target and send love letters. For some it takes up to 4 months of efforts apparently
[email protected]
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This seems more effective :
Facebook Ireland
4 Grand Canal Square
Grand Canal Dock
Dublin 2
Ireland

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Facebook just don't want to risk anyone who is not themselves on an account, they have a pathological need to track and trace you even off site. Mozzila have just launched an app to restrict their tracking.
Oddly, twitter appear to let you have as many spoof accounts as you want. I'm trying to get paranoid about twitter, but they just don't seem as malign as Facebook.
I suspect if you keep relentlessly badgering them then they will capitulate. I've seen this sort of thing before on bans. People who are guilty just don't seem to kick up a fuss, so when a fuss is kicked up a ban will sometimes be lifted.

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

How about signing up for Facebook under a different name, ihave had numerous accounts on fb and never had show my identity or how about we create one for you and go from there

 

[Viro_Major]

Cheerios for the proposal, but we tried that 2 times already. Thx anyway

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I say we all ditch the interwebs and go back to newspapers and playing outside and writing letters. But then without the internet, I couldn't complain about the internet on the internet. Oh just ignore me, I'll get me coat...

 

[Viro_Major]

You crack me up @Underscore. Can't agree more.

In the end, a curse may be on me. Now got banned from eBay, in the middle of selling half a dozen very normal items, not N lol again without a fucking clue or idea of mistakes I've done.



Again, no mean to resolve the situation. The communications make no sense because they leave hope that it's not final but still the way out look like a closed maze. There's again no way for me to appeal. I'm blocked to reach out for support. Need to be logged in to access chat or phone number but I'm prevented to get to that stage. Fucking distorded and retarded mechanism.

This modern society with larger than large companies, cutting down on costs for savings, employes (qualified ones too), where everything becomes automated, where you're now separated to even get in touch with humans, give me the creeps. It is so dysfunctional without reason, whereas there's so much unemployment and people without a purpose, I just don't understand the organisation, why things can't be arranged to work with more sense.

Anyway, it's a lot of "fun" to try to get back to life. I realise there's a sort of comfort to be kind of on pause, having given up on everything and be immersed with depression. You're then sort of able to ponder with free time, even if agony is mixed in. When you rejoin the daily life, the issues change but you get no break. It's only a little easier but not very different, with complications. It's really a quest to lead a struggle free life. I guess it takes drastic decisions. I'm longing to build something outside of the norm but know my choices are still mild compared to some other rare people who have the guts enough to turn more radical. I sit in between. Oh well.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I can relate to a lot of that. One has to wonder why the ebay ban occured on top of the facebook one. These services are free which make YOU the product. We are aware that our info gets sold around the houses to all and sundry. Maybe it's like having a credit check/fail and now you are blackballed from services as they pass your info around?

Yes, modern society is a mess in so many ways. The way to make money is sitting in the middle, selling pointless services to people who don't need them by creating a false demand. People fall for it because they are lazy and like to be told what they want to hear.
I recall applying for design jobs. It was all done via third party recruitment agencies who would act as an intermediary in the application process for jobs where you didn't even know the name of the company you were applying to! I always failed, because on paper I can't compete. But when they mistakenly left the name of the company in the advert, I'd call them directly and often get an interview by applying like that. I can talk a good game and talking to right people can really help rather than sitting in the automated system. What baffles me is how people think this is a good way to get employees!
Sorry, bit of a tangent, but I think you get the idea. This dystopian mess we are all in is crafted out of illusions to persuade us we need stuff that we really, really don't.

 

[Xiaomi]

This is a crazy hardware ban.

 

[Viro_Major]

I can relate to a lot of that. One has to wonder why the ebay ban occured on top of the facebook one. These services are free which make YOU the product. We are aware that our info gets sold around the houses to all and sundry. Maybe it's like having a credit check/fail and now you are blackballed from services as they pass your info around?

Yes, modern society is a mess in so many ways. The way to make money is sitting in the middle, selling pointless services to people who don't need them by creating a false demand. People fall for it because they are lazy and like to be told what they want to hear.
I recall applying for design jobs. It was all done via third party recruitment agencies who would act as an intermediary in the application process for jobs where you didn't even know the name of the company you were applying to! I always failed, because on paper I can't compete. But when they mistakenly left the name of the company in the advert, I'd call them directly and often get an interview by applying like that. I can talk a good game and talking to right people can really help rather than sitting in the automated system. What baffles me is how people think this is a good way to get employees!
Sorry, bit of a tangent, but I think you get the idea. This dystopian mess we are all in is crafted out of illusions to persuade us we need stuff that we really, really don't.

I'd have reasons to become paranoid but this is rather Murphy's law, a matter of circumstances.
10 years ago, I was banned from the french banks for 3 months after being in the red from uncontrolled credits (never began the same mistake again), but still, I was managing to get cordial/courteous dialogues... nowadays, you're not treated as a person anymore but as a variable, on which fire breakers are applied.
The problem lies in the concentration of the industries. With the monopoles, now when you're turned down by the corporates, it can be not trivial but with consequences.





Annoying, ain't it ? On par with some gestapo-like inquisition on top.

I've looked at alternatives since then. Found Bonanza, eBid, OpenBazaar (crypto based, censorship free values in theory) but they're not nearly as popular in terms of audience. It's not going to sell the same.
Against your will, it's easy to fall into the spectrum of exclusion ...when others make the rules. Prolly with a lawyer the cases could be arranged but I already wasted so much time. The bother tired me. Make room for the boutique competition and chase down the behemoths !

I also think that the excess of intermediaries is a huge problem. There are so many positions who are taking advantage of spaces/voids with parasitism, which is often unneeded. Simple tasks get complexified because everyone needs to get busy at taking a piece of the cake. Talk about inefficiency and predatorism

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Lol that was an interogation!
I guess you can never escape the damn past.
Ahh all the middlemen...
It's a reflection, or refraction, of negative evolutionary pressure. Something will fill and adapt to every niche in an effort to survive and compete, and will even create niches where there were none.
In the past, customers were retained with service and politeness. Now, there are so many people, so many new customers to get, that keeping them happy doesn't matter and basic decency is irrelevant. All that matters at the heart of it is getting your slice of cake before anyone else.
It's nature reflected in our dystopian society.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry or both.

 

[Viro_Major]

Perfectly said. Biomimetism adaptation

I tried to use my mother's eBay account ...after some time, got shot ! Ended as a ban too pfff.
Found 2 popular local marketplaces (Wallapop for Spain, LeBonCoin for France) that have no fees, so f**k eBay for sales...except for the purchases. Looked around and now some things I need are going to cost me a lot more. For instance, need a Windows Server licence soon, for a VPS, found it at Bonanza but at 3 times the eBay price :/ sucks sucks sucks brrr

 

[Viro_Major]

Looks like I hit on the french Craiglist. Got a crackhead on the phone, who was doubtful about my honesty, then ended to say my voice inspired trust lol He bought me an item totally broken, so I asked for a tiny price. Nevertheless, he gave 50% more and ordered me to "keep the change" ?! Surreal moment. He didn't even know the day of the week lol fun times

 

[Sk1n1M1n]

How about tryng a name that is nowhere near your own name i.e Stephen Jones could be Peter Rowtree nothing

 

[Viro_Major]

How about tryng a name that is nowhere near your own name i.e Stephen Jones could be Peter Rowtree nothing

That was the start of my troubles

Reregistered at eBay with an alternate. Able to buy (relieved I can buy work gear) but immediately flagged if selling. Nevermind

 

[Viro_Major]

This is nuts. Had no activity since many days. Just today I receive this. They're hunting me down !



The worst part is they lost their mind. I made zero complaint, didn't claim any refund, didn't return any purchased item. What the hell ! In the long run, this unjustified cyber harassment is starting to make me oppressed. Dang !

I'm particularly astonished about the : "What activity didn't follow our policy" ....then blank ?! Come on, give me a break

 

[Deleted member 1465]

As far as I can tell, no one regulates ebay, they can do whatever they want, including taking the piss.

 

[Viro_Major]

Yeah that's the problem, similar to banks which can refuse account openings based on your risk profile versus your reward potential, up to the point you can become bankless, then any basic task becomes impossible. In my country, it's a serious possibility. There are only 5 banks. I had been invited to leave 4 because they didn't like that I was moving money abroad to independent brokers instead of use them at ripoff premium prices, blaming it on AML rules as excuse even though I was using regulated entities under my own name.

Non-sense. I was to send money to South Am, but just got blacklisted from TransferWise after registration. Sigh.



I must be under some general flagging I have no idea about. Looks like there is something serious about my configuration that generates alert. If only I knew what.
Anyway, it's driving me crazy cause it complicates many simple moves. I'm growing some anger at these large companies which own control with all priviledges and little duties back.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Yeah, it's a tough spot you are in. It's also alarming for the rest of us. We all kind of know that it's all tied together, that information is sold and exchanged, but it's concerning to see it in practice. I wonder where and how this central database 'you' exists and how companies access it. Is it simply your credit rating that has gone through the floor? Forgive me, I can't remember if you've checked your credit rating.
Whilst what you are suffering is harsh on a personal level, you are potentially providing valuable information on how things really work.

 

[Viro_Major]

I was in debt for a few months, like -5k but 10 years ago, from a misuse of credit card, not even a loan. Otherwise never contracted a single credit. I run away from them like the plague.

 

[Viro_Major]

Guess whose luck it is again


That's okay for now, I got a backup account but still, fuck

 

[Viro_Major]

These companies never cease to amaze me. Selective servicing ? It's delightful.
When this returns as first result for "live chat" in Google, it must mean you got an issue ?

How to contact the Payoneer Support Center

Do you need help with your account? Don’t worry!

community.payoneer.com

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Live chat is such a con.
Almost all companies/providers now push you to 1. FAQs 2. Chatbots 3. Live chat that is staffed by idiots. They say on their sites to contact them by email or call, but provide no number or address, instead sending you around in circles. Oh there is a hotline to call to subscribe or buy something, sure, but to get help? Hahahaha!
I believe most of the services we are offered today are legitimised cons. Just look at the whole of insurance. Now companies are trying to get me to pay into a fund to pay for my own funeral. LOL not only do they want to convince me to buy lots of barely functioning services whilst I'm alive, they still want to to milk me after I'm dead. What's worse, the adverts on TV are so obviously meant to be heart-wrenchingly targeted on older people worried about their families.
It's all fucking criminal, just legally so.

My rather contrary policy is: never buy anything anyone is trying to sell me, even if its a good deal and I need it.

However, there ARE some services that work on live chat and some companies that respond admirably to online or phone support. I know we aren't meant to link (so I won't) but I have nothing but admiration for PC Specialist and Zen (ISP) in the UK. Also the UK tax office has been surprisingly efficient with me in the past over online chat.

 

[netrezven]

cookies :) they are not that smart. If you were using some of your real accounts on this new device /not facebook/ like gmail, yahoo, youtube or any other...they still know who you should be when visiting facebook.

 

[Viro_Major]

cookies :) they are not that smart. If you were using some of your real accounts on this new device /not facebook/ like gmail, yahoo, youtube or any other...they still know who you should be when visiting facebook.

I had cleared cookies before. Didn't help. No, their monitoring appears to be a bit more sophisticated around more axis. I'm assuming that cookies between multiple browsers are isolated and cannot communicate, correct ? Must be the case

@sarahR the dynamic IP changed (confirmed) but it still failed instantly ...however, it set me on the right track given the exclusion of this option, I tested your same procedure, except I only changed the device for another tablet and this time it finally worked...

In conclusion, looks like both Facebook and eBay are tracking the hardware so they had flagged mine for good, but on top of the internet connection as other parameter ...it's almost certain because I had already made this test before with a new device and new IP (public one) to no avail. But today, it appeared sufficient... the only difference is I followed your advice to "Forget the network" in between. Thanks a bunch !!!

I hope I won't fuck up at a next stage now lol this episode has traumatised me to the point I now feel like walking on a minefield

I'm still bummed that my primary email / username / online identity is blocked = lost so that I need to advance myself as a fake consequently, but better than nothing !

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I had cleared cookies before. Didn't help. No, their monitoring appears to be a bit more sophisticated around more axis. I'm assuming that cookies between multiple browsers are isolated and cannot communicate, correct ? Must be the case

@sarahR the dynamic IP changed (confirmed) but it still failed instantly ...however, it set me on the right track given the exclusion of this option, I tested your same procedure, except I only changed the device for another tablet and this time it finally worked...

In conclusion, looks like both Facebook and eBay are tracking the hardware so they had flagged mine for good, but on top of the internet connection as other parameter ...it's almost certain because I had already made this test before with a new device and new IP (public one) to no avail. But today, it appeared sufficient... the only difference is I followed your advice to "Forget the network" in between. Thanks !!!

I hope I won't fuck up at a next stage now lol this episode has traumatised me to the point I now feel like walking on a minefield

I'm still bummed that my primary email / username / online identity are blocked = lost so that I need to advance as a fake but better than nothing !

Aw fuck them. Give it up. Start again. Though why you'd want to is beyond me. They are utter cunts and we have to fit in with them. Cunts. NB. Ignore me I', drunk/ (they are still cunts)