throwaway123

throwaway123

Hell0
Aug 5, 2018
1,446
how many more of those dull days are you going to take?

it's been like this for quite a while. I keep trying to delude myself into religion and trying to find meaning in suffering but there simply isn't. Life is pointless and stupid.
There is no higher meaning in suffering it is all just random.
No one here is punished because before birth we didn't exist. It is hard to say exist because you only start being able to see the world at age 3 and troughout the course of your life experiences shape "you" and so do your genetics. You are who you are because of genetics, random chance and the environment. Nothing more than that. We are all just cogs in the machine and I think a lot of people know that deep down but refuse to realize it.

Even if your life is perfect at some point you realize its all for nothing because you are member of a species that is intelligent enough to realize that.

I wish people would stop trying to impose their beliefs on other people. If people would stop doing that religion would cease to exist.

I mean being numb is a result of "faulty" brain chemistry. Nothing more. I

I'm just trying to say that everyone has the right to die for any reason because it is their life not yours.

Everyone deserves a peaceful death.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Jc40, throwaway777, Donewith_ and 3 others
GeorgeJL

GeorgeJL

Enlightened
Mar 7, 2019
1,621
how many more of those dull days are you going to take?

it's been like this for quite a while. I keep trying to delude myself into religion and trying to find meaning in suffering but there simply isn't. Life is pointless and stupid.
There is no higher meaning in suffering it is all just random.
No one here is punished because before birth we didn't exist. It is hard to say exist because you only start being able to see the world at age 3 and troughout the course of your life experiences shape "you" and so do your genetics. You are who you are because of genetics, random chance and the environment. Nothing more than that. We are all just cogs in the machine and I think a lot of people know that deep down but refuse to realize it.

Even if your life is perfect at some point you realize its all for nothing because you are member of a species that is intelligent enough to realize that.

I wish people would stop trying to impose their beliefs on other people. If people would stop doing that religion would cease to exist.

I mean being numb is a result of "faulty" brain chemistry. Nothing more. I

I'm just trying to say that everyone has the right to die for any reason because it is their life not yours.

Everyone deserves a peaceful death.
I've thought many years in my life about free will as a christian and universalist. So I think I have something to add to this conversation about free will and spirituality. First of all nobody has true free will. Only certain people that gain the right set of beliefs can even start to exercise some form of free will. And even then it's only the space between your consious thoughts and emotions do you have a chance of being someone and rising above to gain that sense of free will control. There are two main methods for exercising free will. One you take total and utter responsibility for your thoughts and actions from childhood until adulthood and beyond. And even that can entrap some people. But your dead in the water if you don't try, it's a non-starter. It's only by working with the underlying meaning of every thought, emotion, feeling, and intent and aliging that to the larger reality do we even stand a chance of overcoming in a fundamental way. Then there is the opposite approach which is just letting go though meditation. But even to let go by meditating all day you must take full responsibility for the actions you do take.

Consciousness is so free that it can move in whatever direction it so goes. But until that "will" is grounded in truth itself can it even start to make genuine progress. So you don't get points for manipulating others into dead ends, and through lets say coercion, and ego, or even worse off virtue signaling and stuff like that. It's all a road to nowhere. It's only by aligning yourself with the truths of life and reality that you can even begin to overcome.

Our truths are not static, what is true now in society will not be 50 100 500 1000 years from now. With each generation a new hope arises to see through the BS of their parents and make a better path for their children. So given this we can use this to our advantage by knowing that there is greater and greater truths to be realized, and it's up to us to evolve through them.

As far as the afterlife is concerned. As a believer in the afterlife myself even if you live life to the highest truths we know through science you can still overcome. So you don't necessarily need spirituality to overcome. But for some spirituality gives a lot of meaning to their life and helps them grow. So who am I to judge those that benefit from spirituality. Whether they took DMT and saw machine elves. Or service others by helping end suffering, or having a near death experience, or astral projecting, or whatever it is. Just as long as the end result is lowering suffering then it is good. But if these beliefs lead to suffering for themselves or others then it's time to make a change. Meaning there is no one size fits all, but if you live, use, and embody the philosophy of do no harm while helping others end suffering you are a HUGE step ahead of many, many people. This is something that atheists to spiritual seekers can all agree on. And it's something I must still work on. But it is possible.

Doesn't what I said make sense?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Jc40

Similar threads

Darkover
Replies
0
Views
101
Offtopic
Darkover
Darkover
heliophobic
Replies
4
Views
192
Suicide Discussion
heliophobic
heliophobic
Darkover
Replies
2
Views
317
Suicide Discussion
ijustwishtodie
ijustwishtodie
M
Replies
2
Views
169
Suicide Discussion
FuneralCry
FuneralCry