Sex Drive.......comes and goes.

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Yes U.K, I just had a look and I think the one you would get on the NHS would be "Sustanon" does that sound right?

patches 20mg to star or some people like to use these altimeter as they don't like injections. they also do a really long acting esther,where an injection lasts 3 months (you are taught how to do it yourself). problem for me with an Ester that lasts that long is your blood levels will be alot lower near the end of the 3 month time IMO. you want to keep them as steady as possible so regular injections of a short esther would be best, but you don't want to be like a pin cushion.this is why they use a long lasting one. IMO it would be best to use enanthate.

sustanon is a mixture of esther and i doubt you would get that.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

How on earth would you get a gp to test your hormone levels on the nhs though?

I just asked for the GP for a testosterone test and got a blood test later that day they were meant to send me the results but didn't and I chased it up the other day and was told it's fine but ill have to try and get more details.

 

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How on earth would you get a gp to test your hormone levels on the nhs though?

walk in an ask for it!!!! I basically had to poke my gp in the right direction!!! I couldn't get my arse out of bed, lethargic, lack of sex drive. alot similar to depression, and why its hard to get someone to listen.

You have a blood test at 9am (something to do with levels peaking)

wait for the results.

you could have erection problems? thats definitely one that makes them likely to test for it!

I just asked for the GP for a testosterone test and got a blood test later that day they were meant to send me the results but didn't and I chased it up the other day and was told it's fine but ill have to try and get more details.

you have to be tested at 9am in the morning to get accurate results. so any other time is wrong. i am 100% certain of this!

also if you take certain drugs they can effect your testosterone levels alot!

 

[Mm80]

walk in an ask for it!!!! I basically had to poke my gp in the right direction!!! I couldn't get my arse out of bed, lethargic, lack of sex drive. alot similar to depression, and why its hard to get someone to listen.

You have a blood test at 9am (something to do with levels peaking)

wait for the results.

you could have erection problems? thats definitely one that makes them likely to test for it!


you have to be tested at 9am in the morning to get accurate results. so any other time is wrong. i am 100% certain of this!

Thanks. All they seem to want to do is prescribe anti depressants. Do you have to be specific ?

I just asked for the GP for a testosterone test and got a blood test later that day they were meant to send me the results but didn't and I chased it up the other day and was told it's fine but ill have to try and get more details.

Oh right i didnt think you could be that spe ific and just ask for what you wanted

 

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Thanks. All they seem to want to do is prescribe anti depressants. Do you have to be specific ?

Oh right i didnt think you could be that spe ific and just ask for what you wanted

I was on antidepressants!! I just explained how i was feeling, but i had been taking steroids and admitted it(dont do this if you haven't as you need to know alot of other stuff if you want to blag it). Even admitting that it was fukin hard work!

Say you don't wake up with an erection, they don't check that! and if they did,well fucking lucky you!!!! but seriously thats one is nailed on going to get them to test you.

It's hard to just even get tested, it is misdiagnosed as depression sooooo much. Now i've got both cause im a lucky twat!

I must admit i really hate lying and i mean even small ones. I just don't do it, its not me as a person( i don't expect everyone to believe me!). but in this case i HAD to in order to get diagnosed. It shudn't be that way. I was perfectly right.

If you read up on TRT you will find

it's hard to get tested
hard to get diagnosed
mis-diagnosed as depression

everything i read about it happened to me!!! Honestly it felt like a battle. A women actually said i was too young and they were saying about having children.

How the fuck can i even have kids if i cant even get out of bed to 'get in bed' with someone!!!!

 

[Doormat]

My sex drive comes and goes but some times it goes for long periods, has anyone got any ideas?

I have no ideas! I can't even remember what sex feels like. The meds killed my libido years ago and I gave up. I think you can get meds that have less impact on sex drive but it's patient specific. Fucking frustrating

 

[Mm80]

I was on antidepressants!! I just explained how i was feeling, but i had been taking steroids and admitted it(dont do this if you haven't as you need to know alot of other stuff if you want to blag it). Even admitting that it was fukin hard work!

Say you don't wake up with an erection, they don't check that! and if they did,well fucking lucky you!!!! but seriously thats one is nailed on going to get them to test you.

It's hard to just even get tested, it is misdiagnosed as depression sooooo much. Now i've got both cause im a lucky twat!

I must admit i really hate lying and i mean even small ones. I just don't do it, its not me as a person( i don't expect everyone to believe me!). but in this case i HAD to in order to get diagnosed. It shudn't be that way. I was perfectly right.

If you read up on TRT you will find

it's hard to get tested
hard to get diagnosed
mis-diagnosed as depression

everything i read about it happened to me!!! Honestly it felt like a battle. A women actually said i was too young and they were saying about having children.

How the fuck can i even have kids if i cant even get out of bed to 'get in bed' with someone!!!!

Ive often thought that hormone issues could mimick depression. Thanks for this advice.

 

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Ive often thought that hormone issues could mimick depression. Thanks for this advice.

My personal opinion they go hand in hand, like i suffer from both now. It made shit a whole lot worse when i got low t though. people dont realize how bad it is. I cant be arsed with anything, sacked my job, sacked my mates...everything. just totally given up now, i dont want to get better either..... they should of thought about that before pissing me about, now i just don't care whatsoever in all honesty!!

sorry to be more derpressing,just trying to show what problems can arrise from it.

I will be honest as a body builder i dreamed of getting on TRT, then when i suffered from it. I'm like careful what you wish for its no fun!

I should have gone private or just kept on with self medicating. i would of been fine. i had never been so happy and had good job,good money,supercar,own house. now iv'e got just about a house. theres other factors but this was one!

 

[LabRat]

Fluoxetine + other psych drugs seemingly permanently ruined my libido. It has been gone for several years now.

 

[mapletree]

Mine has paradoxically tapered off since I stopped antidepressants and I'm better for it. It was a waste of time and unproductive

 

[Mm80]

My personal opinion they go hand in hand, like i suffer from both now. It made shit a whole lot worse when i got low t though. people dont realize how bad it is. I cant be arsed with anything, sacked my job, sacked my mates...everything. just totally given up now, i dont want to get better either..... they should of thought about that before pissing me about, now i just don't care whatsoever in all honesty!!

sorry to be more derpressing,just trying to show what problems can arrise from it.

I will be honest as a body builder i dreamed of getting on TRT, then when i suffered from it. I'm like careful what you wish for its no fun!

I should have gone private or just kept on with self medicating. i would of been fine. i had never been so happy and had good job,good money,supercar,own house. now iv'e got just about a house. theres other factors but this was one!

No its ok your not depressing i think your well balanced and honest.
Just a hunch but do you think that anti depressants fuck around with hormone levels? They have given me man boobs and i find it really hard to build muscle

 

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No its ok your not depressing i think your well balanced and honest.
Just a hunch but do you think that anti depressants fuck around with hormone levels? They have given me man boobs and i find it really hard to build muscle

Thank you for that :)

Im not too sure, I imagine they might do though. the thing with man boobs, is your body is producing too much estrogen. you can get this from your hormones and also being overweight. do you have any of them problems?

EDIt i just checked and they increase estrogen, thats the answer!!!

 

[Chupacabra 44]

do you know of any other way to increase testosterone?

Yes. Take a look at my thread in off topic called "Don't sell the steak sell the sizzle". Let me know if you have questions.

Tl;dr. Try lots of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol, but watch your blood work. Anecdotal but it worked for me.

Yes. Take a look at my thread in off topic called "Don't sell the steak sell the sizzle". Let me know if you have questions.

Tl;dr. Try lots of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol, but watch your blood work.

Yes. Take a look at my thread in off topic called "Don't sell the steak sell the sizzle". Let me know if you have questions.

Tl;dr. Try lots of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol, but watch your blood work. Anecdotal but it worked for me.

Google "steak and egg diet".
This is how all the bodybuilders ate in the sixties and seventies including Arnold Schwarzenegger.

if anybody wants to see my before and after testosterone numbers I have those in my app for my medical facility that I use so I can show you guys before and after if anybody knows the numbers and how it works. I could show what happened to me by basically eating a steak and egg type diet it was absolutely phenomenal and my endocrinologist said it looked like I was on steroids. Happy to help if it might benefit you don't hesitate to ask.

Yes. Take a look at my thread in off topic called "Don't sell the steak sell the sizzle". Let me know if you have questions.

Tl;dr. Try lots of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol, but watch your blood work.

Yes. Take a look at my thread in off topic called "Don't sell the steak sell the sizzle". Let me know if you have questions.

Tl;dr. Try lots of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol, but watch your blood work. Anecdotal but it worked for me.

Google "steak and egg diet".
This is how all the bodybuilders ate in the sixties and seventies including Arnold Schwarzenegger.

if anybody wants to see my before and after testosterone numbers I have those in my app for my medical facility that I use so I can show you guys before and after if anybody knows the numbers and how it works. I could show what happened to me by basically eating a steak and egg type diet it was absolutely phenomenal and my endocrinologist said it looked like I was on steroids. Happy to help if it might benefit you don't hesitate to ask.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

I managed to speak to the doctor today about the testosterone values and he said it was bang in the middle 18 and it ranges from 9 - 30 anyone got any idea what this means?

 

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I managed to speak to the doctor today about the testosterone values and he said it was bang in the middle 18 and it ranges from 9 - 30 anyone got any idea what this means?

I imagine they would think you were OK. the scale is such a big difference though IMO. although i know stuff about this, i never really knew what the scale is for(just high and low). is it for between them numbers for a certain age group?? or is it for everyone? Should know this considering i suffer myself!!!

 

[Susannah]

Venaflaxin, But I quit for a few months and it seemed to help but then I lost it again and got a deep depression so I started them again.

Venlafaxine fucked up my sex drive.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

I've never heard of this scale 9-30 or how it translates, I only found one reference somewhere else where someone was told it was 10-30, I'm in the UK so if anyone has any ideas please inform me.

It's not just the sex drive I'm always tired and quite skinny etc so i'm currious.

 

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I managed to speak to the doctor today about the testosterone values and he said it was bang in the middle 18 and it ranges from 9 - 30 anyone got any idea what this means?

so i just looked it up! the ranges (they weren't 9-30 they were 240-950ng/dL) are for all adults.

so basically they are sayin if your 21 and you are 350ng/dL(just picked randomly) or your 65 then your both ok. no wonder its so much hard work to get diagnosed!!!

I've never heard of this scale 9-30 or how it translates, I only found one reference somewhere else where someone was told it was 10-30, I'm in the UK so if anyone has any ideas please inform me.

It's not just the sex drive I'm always tired and quite skinny etc so i'm currious.

how many meals a day do you consume.i ate LOADS but only 2 possibly 3 times a day. I then went to the gym( i admit i did steroids ,but ignore that it isnt a wonder drug as poeple think!!!) I then ate 6-8 meals a day i put alot of weight on.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

Probably 2 - 3, I am curious about steroids as I don't have anything to loose but don't understand the cycles etc.

 

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Probably 2 - 3, I am curious about steroids as I don't have anything to loose but don't understand the cycles etc.

you see your body can only absorb a certain amount of food at a time, so if you eat smaller meals more regular you will use more of this food efficiently. this is what yo do if you are training at the gym.

what are you curious about using steroids for?

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

you see your body can only absorb a certain amount of food at a time, so if you eat smaller meals more regular you will use more of this food efficiently. this is what yo do if you are training at the gym.

what are you curious about using steroids for?

Well because I'm at basically the end in life maybe boosting my testosterone with steroids might help, anything is worth a try but I have no idea really how you use them.

 

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I used steroids for years, i felt great. but i now suffer form Low T, which in turn makes you depressed and other stuff. part of the reason i am here!! I should of stayed on them and self medicated, rather than trying to get diagnosed (extremely hard work). i probably would have been fine. I took alot for many years, best years of my life to be fair!!

But i di train and goto the gym, so i was in good shape and healthy aswell. people say it causes blood pressure, rage all bullshit.

I have got a right temper, it made me miles calmer. i never had any issues when i went to hospital or the doctors and they did Blood pressure tests. bearing in mind i was taking 10 x the dose i was given when prescribed by a doctor!!!

I'm not saying do/don't do. just know there are consequences to it. if you run cycles, usually you take for 12-16 weeks then. take meds to get your natural production of test working and stay off them for a good few months. then you have people who blast and cruise, this is being on steroids at a low dose constantly and every so often increasing the dose for a while then back down again.

Its very addictive it makes you feel really good, and if you put the work in you can look it aswell. I was 15 stone at 12% body fat, maintained it for years, now i look like crap!!!

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

yeah but like you say the two go hand in hand so will steroids improve my mood and increase my sex drive?

 

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I think it would do that for anyone. i certainly know what it feels to be at both ends of the scale high and low T. I can say i have never looked or felt better in my life. but i wasn't depressed etc when i first started them. i was also doing very well in life, so i can't account for it just being the steroids. but looking good,certainly= feeling good or it at least helps!!