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18th of March last year I stabbed myself with the intention of dying. Unsurprisingly, this isn't a common method to ctb and I haven't seen much if anything written about it, so I thought I would make a post about my experience. TLDR: it's way harder to die this way than you think, and surviving fucking sucks.

I had planned this method of suicide for over three months. During the planning phase, I spent a lot of time coming to terms with the method and convincing myself to do it. I felt a mixture of anticipation, relief, and existential dread. I quit my job after the New Year and spent those months alone in my apartment meditating on my death. It was difficult at times to manage the instinctual fear around dying, especially in such a heavy-handed way as I had chosen, but I never doubted my plan. I was fully committed and certain of what I would do and when.

It was around 19:30 when I cut up plastic bags and laid them on the floor of my apartment, over which I spread a picnic blanket and bath towel. I was completely sober and calm in my actions. Using a 23cm/9inch steel dagger I had ordered specially for the occasion, I stabbed myself first in the left side of my gut, through my stomach and large intestine; then into the left side of my breast through my lung and into my heart, and finally into the right side of my breast through my lung. Then, I wiped the blade clean and lay down on the floor to die.

I almost immediately lost consciousness as my body went into shock, however I didn't experience any uncontrollable terror or panic. I remained in control of my thoughts and myself the entire time. I drifted in and out of consciousness for seven hours. I was listening to a playlist at the time and I remember waking up at certain points and hearing certain songs, and then passing out again. It was painful but oddly enough the worst pain came from lying on the hard floor the whole time. I kept turning on my back or sides but yeah, needless to say it was not a comfortable experience.

The time was 02:40 when I suddenly woke up in full clarity. I felt the presence of death, which I have never experienced before or since. However, in my mind in that moment I felt stone-cold sober and awake. I felt so clear in my head that I believed I would not die, no matter how long I waited. I believed I had failed. Also, the physical pain was very great. So, I resigned myself to failure and called the emergency service.

To summarise the aftermath, my body temperature was 32C in the ambulance, blood pressure 70/20, I lost three litres of blood, and was flown by helicopter to the city hospital. I underwent three surgeries consisting of open chest (thoracotomy) and open abdominal surgeries (laparotomy), as well as four pleural drains. Both of my parents were called and flew in from my home country to my country of residence on the other side of the world as they were told I was likely to die in transit or in theatre. I was in theatre for two days, ICU for a week, GI ward for three weeks, and I have been inpatient general psych ever since.

The physical recovery took around six months and nowadays I have fully recovered physically. I have many scars in my torso - the stab wounds, surgery scars, and incision scars from the pleural drains. I also have internal scarring, a scar in my heart, and 15cm of my large intestine was removed. During my time in gen psych, I have received medication treatment, ketamine therapy, ECT, CBT therapy... I'm just as depressed as I've always been.

You hear stories of people who survive jumping and say that in the moment before they hit the water, they regretted jumping. I always expected to regret my attempt and to feel that surviving was a new beginning for me. But to be honest, failing has been my greatest regret in life. Pretty much since the shock of what had happened dissipated, I wished more than anything that I had stabbed myself a fourth time. I was also surprised and glad to know that throughout the whole attempt and the hours in which I waited for death, I was in complete control of my mental faculties. I never experienced any kind of biological panic or instinct for self-preservation. I wished to die before, during, and after the attempt.

I have no trauma around that night because it was not traumatic for me. I was calm and resigned the entire time. Also, I was careful not to look at my own body for fear of the blood rousing biological fear. Actually, the vast majority of bleeding was internal. Afterwards when I went back to my apartment, there was only one little stain on the picnic blanket.

Sorry this post is really long, but I hope that it shed some light on what self-stabbing is like and the risks involved. I'm happy to answer any questions, and I have pictures if anyone wants verification (I'm a lurker so am not sure what the general rules are around posting images).
 
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Scary stuff,I'm thankful you spoke up.That's why this forum is an important place for us to discuss these things beforehand. We need a lot of information, time and planning before we commit.Have to choose a good vetted method.
 
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I'm speculating that you must be getting sick of folk telling you how fortunate you were. As I believe in self choice and you're still wishing to ctb can I offer my sympathy at all you went through and are still experiencing without achieving the end result of your effort.
 
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Scary stuff,I'm thankful you spoke up.That's why this forum is an important place for us to discuss these things beforehand. We need a lot of information, time and planning before we commit.Have to choose a good vetted method.
Absolutely. My experience was a hard lesson that the human body doesn't die easy, and that personal experience is all we can truly rely upon (example not what we see in movies or hear from unverified sources).
 
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Absolutely. My experience was a hard lesson that the human body doesn't die easy, and that personal experience is all we can truly rely upon (example not what we see in movies or hear from unverified sources).
Damn, I'm thinking about you laying down and going through all that. Seems so scary.🥹

A virtual hug is all i can send for now,please accept it if you can☺️
 
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It sounds as though you should have waited a bit longer. Another hour or two and you would probably have been dead, or at least unconscious and well on the way to dying.
It also sounds as though you didn't cut any major veins or arteries. If you do, death is likely to be rapid.
I think that anyone who chooses stabbing as a way to ctb would do well to study a good deal of anatomy beforehand.
 
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I'm speculating that you must be getting sivk of folk telling you how fortunate you were. As I believe in self choice and you're still wishing to ctb can I offer my sympathy at all you went through and are still experiencing without achieving the end result of effort.
Thank you~ actually I think the fact that it was a suicide attempt, people haven't really said I'm "fortunate" or "lucky" to have survived, mostly they express that it was a really close call. People have asked me if I'm glad to have survived, and depending who it is I'm very fine with lying lol
Damn, I'm thinking about you laying down and going through all that. Seems so scary.🥹

A virtual hug is all i can send for now,please accept it if you can☺️
Virtual hug accepted, thank you so much~~
 
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Thank you~ actually I think the fact that it was a suicide attempt, people haven't really said I'm "fortunate" or "lucky" to have survived, mostly they express that it was a really close call. People have asked me if I'm glad to have survived, and depending who it is I'm very fine with lying lol
Always keep on fibbing to those mental health professionals unmet friend ... it worked for me !
 
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It sounds as though you should have waited a bit longer. Another hour or two and you would probably have been dead, or at least unconscious and well on the way to dying.
It also sounds as though you didn't cut any major veins or arteries. If you do, death is likely to be rapid.
I think that anyone who chooses stabbing as a way to ctb would do well to study a good deal of anatomy beforehand.
Yes I agree, and a major mistake I made was not stabbing directly through my heart. I intentionally avoided doing so as I actually wanted to die slowly, because I wanted to experience what death is like. So the wound in my heart was only a surface wound and was not lethal. I should have either stabbed myself a fourth time, or stabbed through the heart, or gotten drunk beforehand to hasten blood loss. Either way, lessons learned.
 
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Yes I agree, and a major mistake I made was not stabbing directly through my heart. I intentionally avoided doing so as I actually wanted to die slowly, because I wanted to experience what death is like. So the wound in my heart was only a surface wound and was not lethal. I should have either stabbed myself a fourth time, or stabbed through the heart, or gotten drunk beforehand to hasten blood loss. Either way, lessons learned.
Another way to hasten blood loss would be to take a daily dose of aspirin for a couple of weeks before attempting.
 
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All stabbings will eventually cause death by infection at the minimum, but of course it will take a long time and it's a horrific way to go.
 
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Always keep on fibbing to those mental health professionals unmet friend ... it worked for me !
I'm glad to hear it worked for you~~ At the start I was very ready to work with the mental health professionals because after my attempt I was kinda forced to accept that yeah, okay maybe I am sick and need help. But as I wrote in the OP I've been through sooo much treatment in the past year and nothing has helped so I'm pretty over it all now and want out! Ctb season two here we come
 
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The discipline and determination for your attempt must have been massive, I wonder if you've stunned any pro-lifers with such stoic resolve? My sincere empathy for you, sounds like you've been facing the stormy dark night face first and unflinching.
 
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This is why this is an unsafe method. As you noticed yourself, aiming properly is incredibly difficult. Your body actually has mechanisms to handle wounds like that and did handle them as good as it could, considering you're here typing this now. Also it's just not very plesant to stab oneself, I'd imagine.

Considering the sheer violence of your method, I'm not surprised you're inpatient now. Is it voluntary, "voluntary", or not voluntary? Any guesstimates when/if they will let you out? What is legally possible in your country?
 
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depending who it is I'm very fine with lying lol
If I wasn't a very close friend of someone who attempted, I wouldn't try asking them. But some people are just way too intrusive and can't stop themselves.
Regardless, I'm pretty proud of you for the sheer determination and guts involved. Pun intended😏
 
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The discipline and determination for your attempt must have been massive, I wonder if you've stunned any pro-lifers with such stoic resolve? My sincere empathy for you, sounds like you've been facing the stormy dark night face first and unflinching.
I have had mental health professionals speculate that I MUST have been psychotic to be able to do such a thing, but they have never achieved a diagnosis nor have I had psychosis in the past. I think "normal" people have to believe that I was out of control, because if they accept that a human being is capable of stabbing themselves, then they must accept that they as human beings are capable of stabbing themselves. And of course they don't want to face that reality because it's frightening. It's easier to box someone like me into the "oh she was psychotic and sick to do such a thing, no healthy person could ever stab themselves", because it frees them from having to confront the reality that they too could do so if they only choose. But, no one has been able to say with certainty that I was anything other than severely depressed at the time.
 
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Samurai who practiced seppuku were definitely not out of control or psychotic. They were just determined.
 
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Samurai who practiced seppuku were definitely not out of control or psychotic. They were just determined.
The thing is, the samurai will first open up his stomach. But then a second samurai, usually his apprentice or someone, will then behead him from behind. So yes, the stomach wound will kill you, but not quickly enough and definitely not with grace hence the beheading.
 
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This is why this is an unsafe method. As you noticed yourself, aiming properly is incredibly difficult. Your body actually has mechanisms to handle wounds like that and did handle them as good as it could, considering you're here typing this now. Also it's just not very plesant to stab oneself, I'd imagine.

Considering the sheer violence of your method, I'm not surprised you're inpatient now. Is it voluntary, "voluntary", or not voluntary? Any guesstimates when/if they will let you out? What is legally possible in your country?
At the start it was involuntary, but since last summer it's been voluntary - however I might add that it's voluntary because I have always cooperated and behaved reasonably with the care and staff. I take my meds and go to appointments, and I don't try to resist or run away. In my experience, the care has been reasonably good, and I feel lucky to have been able to try different treatment methods. I'm in the Nordics so you can imagine the rules are flexible and the facilities are good.

Since last month, I've been able to have my own apartment where I can spend a night or two at a time. I've also moved from the hospital ward to a long-term residential ward attached to the hospital which is more open and free for movement. Legally, I can leave at any time. I have been considering it lately because I'm getting fed up and ready to try ctb again. Naively, a part of me hoped to get better from treatment, but now I know that it's not possible; however I blame the limits of current medical science and my own brain rather than the treatment I have received here.
The thing is, the samurai will first open up his stomach. But then a second samurai, usually his apprentice or someone, will then behead him from behind. So yes, the stomach wound will kill you, but not quickly enough and definitely not with grace hence the beheading.
I legit thought about this so often when preparing for my method, like damn where's a second when you need him??
 
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Samurai who practiced seppuku were definitely not out of control or psychotic. They were just determined.
Incredibly so, I can't imagine what it must've been like when Kamakura fell and Hojo Takatoki as well as over 800 members of the Tokusō Hōjō family and their vassals all ctb at Tōsho-ji.
 
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I have had mental health professionals speculate that I MUST have been psychotic to be able to do such a thing, but they have never achieved a diagnosis nor have I had psychosis in the past. I think "normal" people have to believe that I was out of control, because if they accept that a human being is capable of stabbing themselves, then they must accept that they as human beings are capable of stabbing themselves. And of course they don't want to face that reality because it's frightening. It's easier to box someone like me into the "oh she was psychotic and sick to do such a thing, no healthy person could ever stab themselves", because it frees them from having to confront the reality that they too could do so if they only choose. But, no one has been able to say with certainty that I was anything other than severely depressed at the time.
I suspect that denying someone's sanity and labeling them as psychotic and unhealthy is sometimes a technique to legitimize turning a blind eye to the way we are permanently in a dance between life and death, and the associated the extremes of feeling that we go to when faced with that truth. Has anyone ever listened to you and seen you without turning away?
 
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I suspect that denying someone's sanity and labeling them as psychotic and unhealthy is sometimes a technique to legitimize turning a blind eye to the way we are permanently in a dance between life and death, and the associated the extremes of feeling that we go to when faced with that truth. Has anyone ever listened to you and seen you without turning away?
I agree with this and I think it's easier to just say "they were psychotic" than to try and understand the nuance of a person's emotions and actions. I was actually a bit offended when my mental state re: psychosis was questioned because I felt that I was fully aware and cognisant of what I was doing and why. To be fair to the mental health staff here, yes, they have taken me very seriously I think due to the gravity and determination of my attempt. There were only a couple staff members early on who questioned my sanity; but as I mentioned in the OP, no psychosis diagnosis has ever been made so I guess they were forced to accept that I was fully sane the entire time.
 
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it seems to me that you totally obliterated your si. imo you did it in the months meditating on your Death. can you give details of the meditation. daily i assume ? how many hours or minutes per day . what did you say to yourself? number of times thinking about this and duration? total time you did this assume months , how many ?

any of these details might be helpful to me to defeat my si , or any one else as this is a common question here. if you don't feel like posting this in the forum could i PM you about it ?

i think it's possible for almost anyone to change this mindset as well as most others with the right kind of practice . the things i know is that the practice must be done consistently every day for hours per day in 1.5 hour blocks as in the effective executive book.

i've seen many videos of suicides on the watch people die website and the ones i've seen almost all imo they seem to have defeated their si . and there have been some cutting stabbing suicides too on there
 
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Do you think slitting your carotid artery would work?
I can't speak to this as none of my arteries were severed during my attempt. All I can say is that the human body doesn't die easy from physical damage, and I would kindly suggest keeping that fact in mind when considering your own preferred method.
it seems to me that you totally obliterated your si. imo you did it in the months meditating on your Death. can you give details of the meditation. daily i assume ? how many hours or minutes per day . what did you say to yourself? number of times thinking about this and duration? total time you did this assume months , how many ?

any of these details might be helpful to me to defeat my si , or any one else as this is a common question here.

i think it's possible for almost anyone to change this mindset as well as most others with the right kind of practice . the things i know is that the practice must be done consistently every day for hours per day in 1.5 hour blocks as in the effective executive book.
These are interesting questions and I suppose you are right. I was able to let go of my survival instinct.

From the outset, I definitely felt fear of death. At times I would be struck with a swooping dread and anxiety at the prospect of dying. However, I chose my method because I wanted to experience what it's like to die. I thought that in feeling the encroaching dark, I would feel myself truly alive. I think this desire stemmed from a lifetime of feeling as if I was on the outside looking in, as if I was trapped in a glass box merely observing the life going on around me. I felt so isolated from others that I believed that in experiencing death, I would experience the most uniting phenomenon of all existence and so destroy loneliness forever.

Consider the commonality of death. Think about the vast number of creatures who have lived and died in this world. Every person who has ever existed — literally billions — has faced death and died. Children, mothers, teenagers. They could all do it. If they could die, why couldn't I? I had to understand that I was capable of dying. That it wasn't just something others did but that I, too, could face death and not look away.

Think about the true nature of your physical form. I thought of my body as a cage trapping all of the cells that comprised my form, and the knife as a key with which to open that cage. All of my cells would finally be free and return to the universe in a kind of biological immortality. I thought about all those atoms that would turn into grass and trees and birds. Nothing truly dies, after all. It is all in constant motion, constant change, constantly cycling and recycling. So, there is nothing to fear from death. I thought of the survival instinct as something base and animalian, that it was my duty as a human being of higher cognisance to overcome such instincts. I felt that every book I'd read, every painting I'd seen, every song I'd heard, was preparing me to be able to die with as much ease as breathing.

I thought about these concepts a lot. In the three months I prepared for my attempt, I was unemployed and unoccupied, so I didn't do much else. I used to sit by my window for hours and watch the busy street and supermarket downstairs, and take comfort in the fact that nothing about these scenes of daily life changed whether I participated in them or not. It literally made no difference whether I was alive or dead. Most importantly, I took the time to slowly go through each tie holding me to this world and reason it to break, until finally there was nothing holding me down. Then, I was free of all fear.
 
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