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At work today, I saw the movie, "The Last Temptation of Christ" on the shelf~ I went ahead and looked at the cover and saw that it showed Jesus on the cross~ usually, one thinks of how Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, so this made me think a bit~ Jesus had all the power in the world to stop what happened to Him, but He didn't let it happen because He knew that it was His mission to save humanity~ However, He certainly didn't want to die that way~ He could've stopped it at any point and just given himself everything He was tempted to own~ In fact, they even mentioned this in the Bible~ He could've been tempted just to come off the cross until He died~ meanwhile, we want to dry, so being martyred like this doesn't sound like too big a deal~ however, when we think of committing sewer slide, we want to minimize the amount of pain~ fairly certain that no one here has considered sewer slide by crucifixion, but I'm open to being proven wrong~ meanwhile, Jesus was given one of the most painful methods of execution (I've heard ana-tsurushi is worse)~ >_< I just think it's amazing that Jesus could've turned everything around and was certainly tempted to the very end but chose not to~
 
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At the same time... Jesus also knew his death would not be permanent. So... was he ever really tempted when he knew what the plan was all along and how it would turn out for him?

I think the story of Jesus would have made more sense if Jesus was an aspect of God that didn't know he was God and didn't know of his destiny... but rather was a good man who tried to spread good and was betrayed and killed for it... then surprised to find himself returned to the world 3 days later with full knowledge of who he really was and how he had saved mankind.

That version feels like a version that would position him more favorably than a guy who always knew he was the "son of God" and carried his life that way and knew he was making a sacrifice for humanity and knew he ultimately would only suffer that little bit for it before coming back afterwards.

Or maybe that's just me sitting on the sidelines.
 
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I think the story of Jesus would have made more sense if Jesus was an aspect of God that didn't know he was God and didn't know of his destiny... but rather was a good man who tried to spread good and was betrayed and killed for it... then surprised to find himself returned to the world 3 days later with full knowledge of who he really was and how he had saved mankind.

That's the part I've never quite understood. Was God Jesus at that time or, were they separate? It feels more of a sacrifice if God sacrificed itself but to let 'his' son go through that? Why do people think he's this great, caring father if he let 'his' own son experience that? Becauss 'he'/ they love humanity even more?

Because there was no other way? Really? Didn't they just need death plus resurection to prove there was an afterlife? Certainly, it was more memorable I suppose. Plus- dying as a martyr I suppose elevates a religious figure.

But- like you say OP- they were/ are one or two beings with the greatest power there is- presumably. The most intelligent too. Could neither see any other way to cement their image in history? Was pain required even?

Even Jesus didn't seem utterly content with the decision at the end- didn't he ask why he had been forsaken? Wasn't that the point to strike him with a lightening bolt- something to quickly end it for him? A mercy killing.

Why watch your own child die in agony? Again- does that mean God enjoys watching people suffer in pain? That pain is a necessary requirement?

Also- how did it 'save' humanity? It demonstrated there was an afterlife I suppose. It gave weight to all the other things he was saying- presumably. It gave hope to criminals- that they can get into heaven if they believe in God and Christ. What if we don't want an eternal life in heaven though?

A lot of it doesn't make sense to me. God was supposedly already angry. Why did Jesus dying on the cross atone for the sins God was already angry about? Why would that appease 'him'? It's like having a really awful neighbour that acts up for years and it culminates in them torturing and crucifying one of our family members. Why would that atone for all the other bad things they did? Wouldn't that just be the cherry on the cake?

Was Jesus representing humankind and sacrificing themselves to appease their angry God father? But again- why does God demand that suffering?

Aparently, the whole thing was to reunite us with God's love. But then- asides from the hell side of things- would it be so bad to be without God's love? If the way they express it is to leave their only son to die in agony, nailed to a cross- is that the kind of parent we want?

I would have made Jesus fly up to heaven, carrying the cross. Maybe a few laps of the world- like Superman. Why even kill the human version at all? Surely- that would demonstrate supernatural power. Christ could still be alive today- if they'd wanted that. We could be hearing God's word from the horses mouth- as it were. How many atheists would there be with a flying Jesus around?

Seems to me like God still wants people to get it 'wrong'. Maybe so 'he' can still punish us.

If it's all true, then Jesus very possibly did go through so much for what he believed in, in the hopes it would 'save' us. I can understand people being amazed and grateful for that sacrifice. But, I can't personally get over the horror and disgust I feel at the father who could have prevented that but- didn't. Again- I can't see God as anything but a sadist.

I suppose that's why I hope God doesn't exist. I also think Jesus may well have existed but- what if they were schizophrenic say. What if all the 'miracles' were illusions? They used to use automata to make people believe statues could move etc. in some ancient temples. If David Blaine wasn't honest about being a magician, mentalist and endurance performer- wouldn't his stunts appear to be miracles? Imagine David Blaine with 12 disciples. All utterly committed to creating incredible illusions. Imagine if only their reviews of his show existed afterwards.

I imagine there are religious cults or even sports groups where people are so entrenched that they buy into their leader being something extraordinary. It's hard to believe this is even real but:

 

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