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What I noticed is the person can die ingesting from 5-10 g of SN unless saved. What do you think? Or it depends?
 
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That maybe true but obviously not recommended, but if you get hold of a substance why not use the recommended amount.
I've read that even heavier people recommended even a higher amount then less weighty people.
 
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The 25 gram recommendation is from the PPH and meant to be a saturation dose so enough absorbs even if the person throws up. People have died accidentally from 1 gram and eating homemade sausage with too much SN used as a preservative. It's not something to f#ck around with and do a practice run or taste test.
 
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What I noticed is the person can die ingesting from 5-10 g of SN unless saved. What do you think? Or it depends?
If the Sn is not too old and high purity 5g can be lethal.

Imo with strip testing and knowing manufacture date analysis sheet and a reputable company one can get an idea of purity

But I want to die so if I use Sn I want it to be pure and I'll use 30 grams fuck it
 
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TheHolySword

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It's definitely possible, the 25g is far over the lethal limit. The issue is that the body very much does not like poison and will expel it. The overdose is just an attempt to circumvent this and ensure enough is absorbed by the body before and throughout emesis. It's not about minimum dose, it's about guaranteeing minimum exposure.
 
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yes, but if vomiting occurs too early then the full dose will not be absorbed. also, 5-10 grams may not be lethal for some people, especially young & healthy people or because of individual differences in methemoglobin reductase (unsure how much of a factor this is). 20-25g seems to cause death most reliably
 
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yes, but if vomiting occurs too early then the full dose will not be absorbed. also, 5-10 grams may not be lethal for some people, especially young & healthy people or because of individual differences in methemoglobin reductase (unsure how much of a factor this is). 20-25g seems to cause death most reliably
What do you think of @Erring situation https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-attempt-failed-preparing-for-a-second-one.195693/
@Erring, sorry for the link. I will delete if you are against.
 
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Apr 15, 2022
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Why are we even doing this, or contemplating doing this? CTB isn't a game. It's deadly serious. If someone wants to ctb, they should ctb, not play games approaching ctb by trying "just a little" to "see" what it might be like. If you don't want to kill yourself, then don't. As far as I know, the amount of SN recommended for ctb hasn't really changed. Some of the other recomnended meds have, but not the SN itself. Using anything less than the recommended amount is too risky, if failure is of concern to you. SN is already far from a 100% certain method. Why increase that uncertainty by deviating from the best known information?

You know what this is akin to? Someone who wants to shoot themselves and decides on a .44 magnum revolver and corresponding ammo. Then they start to think that, maybe, a .44 magnum might be "overkill". So, they take apart a bullet, remove 3/4 of the gunpowder charge from it, reassemble the bullet, and then use the reduced-power bullet to ctb. Freaking why?

These types of threads are just so irksome in so many ways.

Ok, I stated my peace and I'm done.
 
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SN is already far from a 100% certain method.
Its pretty good to be fair - as long as you're not discovered while alive or vomit up the overwhelming majority. The PPH protocol quantity will almost certainly do the job.
 
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Its pretty good to be fair - as long as you're not discovered while alive or vomit up the overwhelming majority.
Seems fairly common occurrences. Also, seems like many call emergency services on themselves, too, quite often, which makes me wonder just how bad the effects are. I do believe it's, also, far from the worst method.
 
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Peter Skellern

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. I do believe it's, also, far from the worst method
Me too. I personally think "unpleasant" is probably a fair description. Vomiting isn't fun (hence why I'm exploring the enteric capsule aspect to potentially eliminate that) neither is the heart aspect (hence the Propranolol). Many seem to go without Benzos (or don't have sufficient) which in my opinion is unwise.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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Me too. I personally think "unpleasant" is probably a fair description. Vomiting isn't fun (hence why I'm exploring the enteric capsule aspect) neither is the the heart aspect (hence the Propranolol). Many seem to go without Benzos (or don't have sufficient) which in my opinion is unwise.
I was never much one for vomiting. I remember spending many an hour back in my drinking days bowing over the porcelain throne. It was never enjoyable.
 
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