Recent Experience with SN

[Kali_Yuga13]

From what I've read from the documented SN goodbye threads. the SN process seems consistent.

Tachycardia sets in fast, vomiting also happens fast, usually 10 minutes +/- after ingestion. Many times after this point it's unclear if the person takes the second cup, appears often they don't. Semi-consciousness sets in, less responsive communication, labored breathing. Around 20 minutes in the person is seemingly unconscious while making strange breathing and/or moaning noises and then they fade out around 40-60 minutes from initial ingestion. These are just guesstimates from reading a number of these threads and noticing patterns. I have never read any report of someone crying out in agony during their SN ctb.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

How loud is the vomiting and groaning do we know?

 

[saltytears]

From what I heard they didnt use an AE or benzo which probably why they suffered more than they should have

Think plato used meto....seems like everyone throws up whether or not they use it...

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I doubt this is a healthy thing to do so I'm not recommending this. A while back, I mixed up some salt in lukewarm water (without taking an AE) & downed it like a shot. To get an idea of the taste & the experience. To help prepare mentally. But just salty water made me groan quite a bit & feel retchy for ages - I think if someone was listening to me, they'd assume I was in pain, when it was just discomfort. I think that's extremely reassuring. And knowing laboured breathing is a part of most deaths - maybe some people here haven't had the life experience to see someone die??? What if the sounds we hear are entirely reasonable to expect & nothing to be feared? I was not at all scared by any of the recent GBT's. Or by watching people die in real life in hospitals - I think if I just listened to a sound recording of them dying I would be traumatised. But with the whole picture, even though their breathing was not at all normal & sounded awful, their faces remained peaceful at all times & I felt no distress for them or worried they were in pain - the doctors wouldn't have allowed that so I know peaceful humane hospital deaths can sound bad, but aren't.
And SN is a humane way to kill pigs - that's how it started in Australia. The pigs have the SN, get woozy & fall asleep.
Hopefully you are getting the reassurance you need from your research or you decide to switch methods if SN is still not right for you or you switch gears & aim for recovery. No method is perfect.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

But is salt water as toxic as sn? I mean poison equivalency

I doubt this is a healthy thing to do so I'm not recommending this. A while back, I mixed up some salt in lukewarm water (without taking an AE) & downed it like a shot. To get an idea of the taste & the experience. To help prepare mentally. But just salty water made me groan quite a bit & feel retchy for ages - I think if someone was listening to me, they'd assume I was in pain, when it was just discomfort. I think that's extremely reassuring. And knowing laboured breathing is a part of most deaths - maybe some people here haven't had the life experience to see someone die??? What if the sounds we hear are entirely reasonable to expect & nothing to be feared? I was not at all scared by any of the recent GBT's. Or by watching people die in real life in hospitals - I think if I just listened to a sound recording of them dying I would be traumatised. But with the whole picture, even though their breathing was not at all normal & sounded awful, their faces remained peaceful at all times & I felt no distress for them or worried they were in pain - the doctors wouldn't have allowed that so I know peaceful humane hospital deaths can sound bad, but aren't.
And SN is a humane way to kill pigs - that's how it started in Australia. The pigs have the SN, get woozy & fall asleep.
Hopefully you are getting the reassurance you need from your research or you decide to switch methods if SN is still not right for you or you switch gears & aim for recovery. No method is perfect.

GreAt post btw

 

[opheliaoveragain]

But is salt water as toxic as sn? I mean poison equivalency

GreAt post btw

No, not in the slightest. It's something that some users have done to get an idea of what the experience may be like on (basically a micro) scale.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

No, not in the slightest. It's something that some users have done to get an idea of what the experience may be like on (basically a micro) scale.

Right so it would be much much much more uncomfortable no? I mean in regards to vomiting?

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

But is salt water as toxic as sn? I mean poison equivalency

GreAt post btw

Thank you.
It's not toxic like SN, but I still wouldn't recommend it!! I sounded awful but was fine.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

What sounded awful?

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

What sounded awful?

Me groaning & semi-retching afterwards, just from salt water. I was completely fine but I sounded like I was not fine.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Me groaning & semi-retching afterwards, just from salt water. I was completely fine but I sounded like I was not fine.

Would someone hear this is if you were upstairs and they were downstairs? Was it super loud? Or could you control it?

 

[swankysoup]

Idk what it's like having shallow breathing, but some time ago i had a cramp in my abdominal muscles and it hurt a lot, and lasted for a while. Much worse than regular muscle cramping. I don't ever think about it, it was a short moment of pain. But if someone had told me it was gonna happen like months before, i probably would have felt even worse.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Idk what it's like having shallow breathing, but some time ago i had a cramp in my abdominal muscles and it hurt a lot, and lasted for a while. Much worse than regular muscle cramping. I don't ever think about it, it was a short moment of pain. But if someone had told me it was gonna happen like months before, i probably would have felt even worse.

I'm so sorry don't know the connection though for sn? Could you elaborate?

 

[AuroraB]

Although I missed the exact moment of this death, I watched my dad dying at the age of 86. He had Alzheimer's then fell and broke his hip. Surgery/rehab was not an option and he had a medical directive written long before he lost his memory stating "no intervention." I stayed with him for 4 days while he was attended by nurses, given no food or water, and just increasing doses of morphine (hospice). That last hour breathing is normal when the body shuts down. Folks I know and trust watched one of their loved ones exit via SN. It's that same breathing at the end. It's not painful. Look up "Death Rattle."

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Although I missed the exact moment of this death, I watched my dad dying at the age of 86. He had Alzheimer's then fell and broke his hip. Surgery/rehab was not an option and he had a medical directive written long before he lost his memory stating "no intervention." I stayed with him for 4 days while he was attended by nurses, given no food or water, and just increasing doses of morphine (hospice). That last hour breathing is normal when the body shuts down. Folks I know and trust watched one of their loved ones exit via SN. It's that same breathing at the end. It's not painful. Look up "Death Rattle."

Sounds like snoring

 

[AuroraB]

Sounds like snoring....

you can google this: "snoring vs. death rattle."

 

[swankysoup]

I'm so sorry don't know the connection though for sn? Could you elaborate?

just saying that a sudden moment of pain may not be so bad.

 

[AuroraB]

Remember surviving the pain from falling off a bicycle or getting your finger slammed in a car door or hitting your head on a cabinet or fracturing/breaking a bone? We've all experienced short term pain/throbbing that dissipates in 30 minutes to 1 hour. Diarreah, food poisoning, menstrual cramps or giving birth come to mind as extended periods of pain.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Remember surviving the pain from falling off a bicycle or getting your finger slammed in a car door or hitting your head on a cabinet or fracturing/breaking a bone? We've all experienced short term pain/throbbing that dissipates in 30 minutes to 1 hour. Diarreah, food poisoning, menstrual cramps or giving birth come to mind as extended periods of pain.

Makes sense worried about noise level

 

[AuroraB]

location matters.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

location matters.

More detail please

 

[swankysoup]

location matters.

i feel like doing it in a car is nice but where to park it?

 

[howunfortunateforme]

i feel like doing it in a car is nice but where to park it?

Someone would totally fine me knowing my luck and my family would call police if I wasn't home soon enough. What about bedroom that is far away on oooosye side of house while spouse is downstairs on couch with tv on and fans for noise

 

[AuroraB]

More detail please

i will ctb alone where it's 100% private

i feel like doing it in a car is nice but where to park it?

where i live, within an hour, there are tons of secluded farming and residential country roads to park along. i would scope it out first.

 

[maniac116]

How loud is the vomiting and groaning do we know?

Agonal breathing can be really loud (death rattle).
The vomiting can be really loud as well. The body is trying desperately to rid itself of toxicity.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

How long do you need to be alone?

 

[AuroraB]

i will spend an entire night outside my own home in complete seclusion.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

i will spend an entire night outside my own home in complete seclusion.

Where?

 

[AuroraB]

car or tent camping out in nature works for me. don't want to CTB in someone else's house or my own.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Yea I can't sneak out with ring camera and nosy neighbors