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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
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hi long time no see nya uwu

Having IBS and being on HRT I've dealt a lot with nausea. And well, it doesnt disappear with meds just like pain with morphine.
I'll rank anti-emetics worst to best :

-metoclopramide: made me throw up. Did the opposite of what it's meant to.
-metopimazine: rarely made it better. Threw up on occasion.
-olanzapine: prevented after tolerance break. Made me fall asleep and wake up hungry. Threw up twice on it.
-zofran/ondansetron : definitely get this one if you aren't on anything else. It takes 2 hours for full effect and works quite well. I never threw up on it although in some occasions I still felt very nauseous.
-mirtazapine: the first time I took it I fell asleep and the nausea went away. After 4 weeks I had its full effects and I'm back to normal me who doesnt feel sick all the time (for now). Never threw up on it.

In my case, estrogen makes me nauseous. I suggest to be aware that it can be worse at a certain time in the month if you have periods.

Never take more than one of these meds at a time, there is a risk of serotonin syndrome, and you'll puke for sure.

That's it for me. wizzie signing off
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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I'd like more info on mirtazapine as the sole anti-emetic /or/ taking mirtazapine with something else - watching this thread. I imagine there's quite a few of us that already take mirtazapine for other things than nausea.
 
watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
742
PPH says that metoclopramide is "very effective".
well wizzie says it depends. having tried it myself and knowing people who did too, it's really YMMV. it has proved itself very iseful however in diseases like gastroparesis (slow gastric emptying). You can also refer yourself to reviews on drugs.com
I'd like more info on mirtazapine as the sole anti-emetic /or/ taking mirtazapine with something else - watching this thread. I imagine there's quite a few of us that already take mirtazapine for other things than nausea.
i agree that this one tends to have varying outcomes too; all people are not as sensitive to it. On rare occasion it might even make you puke instead of preventing it (just like meto for me)
 
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Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
374
I appreciate this because the whole meto situation has seemed weird to me, like it's presented as this miracle AE but then you find out some people have a terrible reaction to it, and of the ones who don't, a percentage of them (possibly most of them) puke anyway. I actually have access to ondansetron but apparently since it doesn't work from the dopamine angle it's useless, just like all the OTC AE's.
 
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befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
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-metoclopramide: made me throw up. Did the opposite of what it's meant to.
Maybe that's why many people prefer Domperidone, because it has less side effects than Meto and is easier to get.
 
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Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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hi long time no see nya uwu

Having IBS and being on HRT I've dealt a lot with nausea. And well, it doesnt disappear with meds just like pain with morphine.
I'll rank anti-emetics worst to best :

-metoclopramide: made me throw up. Did the opposite of what it's meant to.
-metopimazine: rarely made it better. Threw up on occasion.
-olanzapine: prevented after tolerance break. Made me fall asleep and wake up hungry. Threw up twice on it.
-zofran/ondansetron : definitely get this one if you aren't on anything else. It takes 2 hours for full effect and works quite well. I never threw up on it although in some occasions I still felt very nauseous.
-mirtazapine: the first time I took it I fell asleep and the nausea went away. After 4 weeks I had its full effects and I'm back to normal me who doesnt feel sick all the time (for now). Never threw up on it.

In my case, estrogen makes me nauseous. I suggest to be aware that it can be worse at a certain time in the month if you have periods.

Never take more than one of these meds at a time, there is a risk of serotonin syndrome, and you'll puke for sure.

That's it for me. wizzie signing off
Thanks for making this thread and mentioning these things I actually just recently made a thread trying to compare Zofran with Meto I know they're two different kinds of drugs but they're supposed to do the same thing I guess which is to help with nausea but I've read that Zofran is way better at helping with nausea I guess so I'll be taking that with the intention of helping the nausea and the Meto for the gastric emptying and hopefully for its affects of stopping nausea.
 
watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
742
I appreciate this because the whole meto situation has seemed weird to me, like it's presented as this miracle AE but then you find out some people have a terrible reaction to it, and of the ones who don't, a percentage of them (possibly most of them) puke anyway. I actually have access to ondansetron but apparently since it doesn't work from the dopamine angle it's useless, just like all the OTC AE's.
thats because stan's guide says so. but it's not entirely true: 5HT-3 antagonists (such as ondansetron) are very strong. they're used in the treatment of nausea and vomiting in chemotherapy.
 
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Doombox

Doombox

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Apr 7, 2022
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thats because stan's guide says so. but it's not entirely true: 5HT-3 antagonists (such as ondansetron) are very strong. they're used in the treatment of nausea and vomiting in chemotherapy.
Do you have any idea why Stan (and the PPH) insist that dopamine antagonists are best for sn?
 
watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
742
Do you have any idea why Stan (and the PPH) insist that dopamine antagonists are best for sn?
Because most AEs are just placebo crap. D2 antagonists actuzlly *do* something. they might not know about 5HT-3 and even then, it is hard to get.
 
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Sniffer

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Jul 12, 2022
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How effective would a Mirtazapine and Olanzapine combination be?
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
374
Because most AEs are just placebo crap. D2 antagonists actuzlly *do* something. they might not know about 5HT-3 and even then, it is hard to get.
I think the PPH actually says ondansetron won't work with sn.
 
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Theanswer

Experienced
Jun 26, 2022
278
Thanks for making this thread and mentioning these things I actually just recently made a thread trying to compare Zofran with Meto I know they're two different kinds of drugs but they're supposed to do the same thing I guess which is to help with nausea but I've read that Zofran is way better at helping with nausea I guess so I'll be taking that with the intention of helping the nausea and the Meto for the gastric emptying and hopefully for its affects of stopping nausea.
That's my plan as well - to take both Meto and Zofran, if I can get the Zofran. Could you please let me know where your thread is that compares Zofran to Meto? I couldn't find it. Thanks.
 
Tortured Existence

Tortured Existence

Alone till the end
May 18, 2022
125
I found Zofran to be totally useless for my nausea. I have an endless supply of it. I tried one meto, and nausea was completely gone. My doctor told me the side effects are rare and occur more often with prolonged use.
 
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Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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That's my plan as well - to take both Meto and Zofran, if I can get the Zofran. Could you please let me know where your thread is that compares Zofran to Meto? I couldn't find it. Thanks.
Hey. I just found the link in Google my friend.
 
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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
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I found Zofran to be totally useless for my nausea. I have an endless supply of it. I tried one meto, and nausea was completely gone. My doctor told me the side effects are rare and occur more often with prolonged use.
thanks for confirming - AEs are really YMMV. In my case it's the opposite, and all info here has to be taken with a grain of salt. also i think it also depends on the cause of the nausea. what was yours?
 
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