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I agree that neither political side seems to care about topics like discrimination against autistic people or promoting awareness/understanding of that. And I would say that neurodivergence & physical disability are two minority groups that leftism overall does not even acknowledge usually in their protests/activism/signs & symbols/awareness campaigns, etc. when they are talking about support for oppressed/marginalized groups (Except for some activists who are autistic or physically disabled themselves).
This is correct. I also have autism, I don't know if I mentioned that previously, and this is one of the reasons why I am so disillusioned with the whole "Diversity" movement. It's not really about diversity. If you're not diverse in the right way, no one cares. That's not really diversity. I am, technically, a "minority", due to having severe autism, but I am treated as, like the poster above said, "Privileged" because of my race and gender, no one looks deeper to see what I have actually been through, and how much I have suffered, and am still suffering.
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I also agree that men's mental health has not been taken seriously and is made fun of or called "weak" and other derogatory terms that (based on the stigma of emotions which everyone experiences being feminine and feminine being "bad") that contribute to rejecting the importance of men's mental health needs and likely increase existing shame and depression symptoms more
Again, agreed. This is a complex issue, and it's kind of beyond the scope of the initial comment that I made. I do think that men have some responsibility here too, sometimes men will look down on other men for going to therapy, taking medication, etc, because "Real men don't need therapists", etc, etc. That's something that is changing, but you see that attitude in some places still.
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And I also have mixed feelings about how the word "incel" is used since people use implying someone is a virgin as an insult. Which I do not think should be used to determine the value of a man.
An incel isn't just someone who is a "virgin". It's much, much more serious than that. Incels, as a group, are incredibly toxic, dangerous, and often violent. They frequently talk about (and sometimes actually DO) murder women, assault them, and advocate for violence against them. For some reason, this word "Incel" is now used for anyone who criticises the oftentimes unfair and toxic treatment than men get in society. I strongly disagree with this. I am absolutely not an incel, I do not advocate for violence against any individual, of any gender, race, or nationality. I fully support women and womens rights and equality. I also used to consider myself a feminist, however in the modern world I think that feminism has been overtaken by a toxic, anti-male attitude that I cannot and do not support, and so I no longer consider myself a feminist. I do still support equality however. Social media spaces really, really, need to stop normalising the use of the word "incel" to refer to anyone who talks advocates for the role of men in society. People are deliberately conflating the two because it suits their narrative ("IE: Oh, so you think men are treated badly in some ways? Oh, well, you're obviously an incel! That is NOT what an incel is.)
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However, writing "it used to be the case that women, gay people, etc. would be oppressed" is inaccurate because women, gay people, etc. still are oppressed. And they are still lower on the equity ladder "levels" than straight men (see equity vs. equality concept for what I'm trying to refer to. Btw, I'm not saying that men aren't affected/oppressed by topics such as class/money and stigma against autism).
This is true, I never said that women and minorities are NOT oppressed, just that they aren't the only ones being oppressed. They may still be oppressed more than men, in fact, but the point I was making was that assuming "All men are privileged" and "All women and minorities are disadvantaged" is not true anymore. Like I said, from each according to their ability, to each according to their need.
I did not intend to write an essay, but I just had to respond to the way that was worded. (which I also understand is a thing that autism affects, like, sometimes accidentally wording a phrase in a way that comes across differently than what you had meant to communicate or is interpreted differently than it was in your thoughts if someone was able to see what was happening in your brain and the message you intended to convey.)
Yes, I do the same thing myself, again, I have autism too, so I totally get that. I am sure you are right about your experiences of your pain not being listened to in the medical setting too, I'm sorry that that happened.
And I'm not trying to start an internet argument, I just wanted to make sure I explained the multiple aspects of points I was bringing up which is always so complicated -but I don't know how to explain it all in short way because it's not really possible- and finding examples to back that up
I think you explained yourself extremely well, and personally, I much prefer longer debates like this because it makes it much easier to clarify and expand on what I am saying, and prevents misunderstandings. Maybe the fact that we both have autism makes talking easier?
5) And to try to end on a neutral note, both left & right sides post clickbait sensationalized titles with the goal of making people angry and increasing their anxiety. And also contribute to my mental health and viewpoint of the world getting worse.
Absolutely agreed. This is why social media can be so toxic, it can take a grain of truth and exaggerate it, get people foaming at the mouth, when in actual fact the truth is completely different and usually much more harmles.
