Has anyone had a successful attempt by poisoning themselves with cyanide via apple seeds and cherry pits?
9137890
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- Aug 21, 2019
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That's not possible. In the PPeH 2016 are 2 Methods to produce it. I would try it out if I were alone.
Apple seeds (or cherry pits, almonds, etc) dont have cyanide. They have a chemical called amygdalin that is broken down by enzimes in your gut to release cyanide. I suspect it is impossible to die by ingesting amygdalin no matter how high the dose because as soon as some cyanide is produced the body might respond by stopping digestion and forcing you to vomit or have explosive diarrhea to get that poison out of your gut.
To die by cyanide you have to ingest actual cyanide. Its possible to turn amygdalin from almonds into cyanide salts and purify them. Probably by crushing the seeds and washing them in sodium hydroxide. The hydroxide will break down the amygdalin into cyanide plus an oil called "benzaldehyde", which is sold commercially as almond flavoring. The people that produce this oil would add iron sulphate to the liquid, which binds to the cyanide and turn it into a pigment called "prussian blue", which is not soluble and precipitates as a solid to the bottom of the container. Thus you are left with a watery mix of hydroxide and oil. The hydroxide is probably neutralized by adding bicarbonate and the liquid is finally distilled for the oil (benzaldehyde).
Its theoretically possible to scoop up the prussian blue "leftovers" and toss them in sulphuric acid, which would release hydrogen cyanide in gas form. If you bubble this gas through a (saturated?) solution of sodium hydroxide in ethanol it will become sodium cyanide, and precipitate as solid cyanide crystals.
I heard its also possible to cook prussian blue with solid sodium hydroxide. By heating the mixture the prussian blue should release cyanide gas, which ought to combine with the hydroxide and produce a rock of solid cyanide/hydroxide. You could dissolve this rock in ethanol and add some bicarbonate to neutralize the hydroxide into carbonate, which is not soluble in ethanol and will sink as a solid. The leftover liquid should be a pure solution of sodium cyanide in ethanol, which you can evaporate to yield the pure salt. It should still be easy to buy prussian blue powders, because it is not a poison and is used as a pigment, mixed with oil. But you know how it goes with chemical bans.
Its also possible to synthesize and purify cyanide from semi-common household chemicals. For instance cook urea (which you can make from urine), charcoal and hydroxide at a high temperature will produce a hard, fused rock which you can dissolve in ethanol. Add bicarbonate to neutralize the hydroxide, filter all solids and evaporate the ethanol. What remains should be fairly pure sodium cyanide.
Some care must be taken when handling sodium cyanide. If dissolved in water it tends to spontaneously break down into cyanide gas, which slowly leaves the water and makes it look like "sparkling water". It leaves behind sodium hydroxide. Cyanide also likes to react with atmospheric CO2 and become sodium carbionate. It also likes to react with oxygen and turn into sodium cyanate (not same as cyanide). So, you have to store it dry and sealed, with no contact with air.
To die by cyanide you have to ingest actual cyanide. Its possible to turn amygdalin from almonds into cyanide salts and purify them. Probably by crushing the seeds and washing them in sodium hydroxide. The hydroxide will break down the amygdalin into cyanide plus an oil called "benzaldehyde", which is sold commercially as almond flavoring. The people that produce this oil would add iron sulphate to the liquid, which binds to the cyanide and turn it into a pigment called "prussian blue", which is not soluble and precipitates as a solid to the bottom of the container. Thus you are left with a watery mix of hydroxide and oil. The hydroxide is probably neutralized by adding bicarbonate and the liquid is finally distilled for the oil (benzaldehyde).
Its theoretically possible to scoop up the prussian blue "leftovers" and toss them in sulphuric acid, which would release hydrogen cyanide in gas form. If you bubble this gas through a (saturated?) solution of sodium hydroxide in ethanol it will become sodium cyanide, and precipitate as solid cyanide crystals.
I heard its also possible to cook prussian blue with solid sodium hydroxide. By heating the mixture the prussian blue should release cyanide gas, which ought to combine with the hydroxide and produce a rock of solid cyanide/hydroxide. You could dissolve this rock in ethanol and add some bicarbonate to neutralize the hydroxide into carbonate, which is not soluble in ethanol and will sink as a solid. The leftover liquid should be a pure solution of sodium cyanide in ethanol, which you can evaporate to yield the pure salt. It should still be easy to buy prussian blue powders, because it is not a poison and is used as a pigment, mixed with oil. But you know how it goes with chemical bans.
Its also possible to synthesize and purify cyanide from semi-common household chemicals. For instance cook urea (which you can make from urine), charcoal and hydroxide at a high temperature will produce a hard, fused rock which you can dissolve in ethanol. Add bicarbonate to neutralize the hydroxide, filter all solids and evaporate the ethanol. What remains should be fairly pure sodium cyanide.
Some care must be taken when handling sodium cyanide. If dissolved in water it tends to spontaneously break down into cyanide gas, which slowly leaves the water and makes it look like "sparkling water". It leaves behind sodium hydroxide. Cyanide also likes to react with atmospheric CO2 and become sodium carbionate. It also likes to react with oxygen and turn into sodium cyanate (not same as cyanide). So, you have to store it dry and sealed, with no contact with air.
Pykul
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- Sep 22, 2019
- 88
Apricot pits have higher concentration of the chemical your body converts to cyanide
Cyanide is tricky and painful way to ctb, beside thinking about getting cynide from any sort of fruits/seeds is useless.
It's possible, but collection of the cyanide would be tricky. There was a video on Youtube showing how to do it, but it's deleted now. Amygdalin was sold for a while as a "vitamin". The LD50 of that is 85 grams if I recall correctly. I've seen amygdalin pills being sold around the internet and they aren't illegal if I'm not mistaken. If you're interested in a cyanide poisoning death, I'd look into that. I hear cyanide is used as pesticide in some countries. Don't ask for help, as I really have no more help to give. I looked into cyanide poisoning, but everything was a dead end.
There was a thread about amygdalin poisoning. It was pretty quickly shot down by users claiming "You can't die from that" and "It's too painful" -- of course without any sources.
Cyanide is used in photography and in jewelry making. If you happen to have any contacts in those areas, try asking them.
There was a thread about amygdalin poisoning. It was pretty quickly shot down by users claiming "You can't die from that" and "It's too painful" -- of course without any sources.
Cyanide is used in photography and in jewelry making. If you happen to have any contacts in those areas, try asking them.
The hearsay that cyanide poisoning is painful seems to be fact around here. In every suicide book I've read, the accounts vary a lot -- just like with SN, and that method is heralded as the "golden ticket", the "poor man's Nembutal". It annoys me greatly.
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Like i said the tricky nature of the method might cause pain, reading about botched executions by HCN indicates the painful nature, beside there's no accurate available data about whether cyanide give peaceful death or not. Moreover, personally i never believed in the peacefulness of SN at all. Both SN and CN are blood agents, so i assume their fatal physical syndromes are the same.
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Quinlor
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- Feb 21, 2019
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In February I chewed about 200 apple seeds. I was just a little dizzy. I believe the minimum would be about 600 seeds.
Good luck!
Good luck!
ImSorryEmma
Skylar
- Mar 28, 2019
- 107
Cyanide is painful but it kills you within like a minute or 2 and has a 99% success rate, that is if the cyanide is pure enough. So if you are willing get pure cyanide and to take the pain for however long it takes to kill you then I would say it's a good method.
Is there a better way to get it than the methods above? Because making it myself sounds very difficult
If you managed to get potassium cyanide, there is nothing tricky at all after that. About a gram of that into water, stir, wait for a few minutes, no going back. Getting the cyanide is the hard part.
Might be painful and might not be. Really, any pain won't matter as you won't be around to remember it and there's really no going back after you take the cyanide. Cyanide just might be one of the best methods available in terms of ease of use and reliability, just getting the cyanide might be difficult.
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Here Cody makes a mash with cherry pits and adds sulphuric acid. Then he heats it and hydrogen cyanide gas boils over, and also benzaldehyde. He distills it and pours the condensate over solid sodium hydroxide, making sodium cyanide mixed with benzaldehyde. Benzaldehyde boils at 178 C, it could be possible to boil it off while leaving solid cyanide.
Its nearly impossible to upload videos here, so ill just link it to youtube.
Its nearly impossible to upload videos here, so ill just link it to youtube.
passenger27
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- Aug 25, 2019
- 642
Here's a chart of the lethality of cyanide poisoning along with other suicide methods and the agony level of each. Cyanide looks pretty painful to me, but effective.
http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
And here's a lot of info on cyanide poisoning. Hope it helps.
http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
And here's a lot of info on cyanide poisoning. Hope it helps.
That method is NOT recommended at homes at all, it requires good experience at chemistry. Chemists call such reactions (DIRTY), strong acid like sulfuric, caustic substance like NaOH, flammable solvent Benzaldehyde, then add all that to the highly toxic HCN. With that reaction you do not need to take any cyanides, just run it and you gonna ctb.
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Just the sound of cyanide poisoning sounds like such a cool way to go as how rare it is. Might have to deep web it.
khw777
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- Oct 18, 2019
- 235
Aren't those just estimates? I guess the only ones who really know are the ones that tried it, and they didn't live to tell the tale!
According to Wikipedia, it is used as pesticide in New Zealand. Anyone in NZ want to check this out? Would probably get stopped by customs. It's used in jewelry-making and photography. If you have access to a laboratory (in a university for example) or a chemist friend, that could be an option.
WhiteDespair
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- Oct 24, 2019
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"Honey, can you pick up these supplies at the lab before you come home? I have an experiment."
passenger27
In my beginning is my end.
- Aug 25, 2019
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@Heart of Ice - lol you know, I've always wondered myself how these kinds of charts were so accurate unless ghosts made them up. I guess they go by what survivers tell them? Or watching how long it takes a guinea pig to die after taking cyanide. Who knows.
Cyanide may be painful but it does seem quick. Frankly, I'm not going to let that chart stop me from my 2nd choice of CTB - drowning in a lake nearby (1st is CO poisoning). The agony level on that was pretty high too, but my way of looking at it is if I take enough benzos and alcohol, am I even going to feel anything? And with blocks tied to me, my SI can go to hell, there's no going back. Unless somebody saw me and "rescued" me. Don't want to even think about that.
I've read apple seeds have cyanide in them, and a cupful would be fatal. Not sure if that's exactly true, and besides that, who's going to eat that many apples?
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Hunter100
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- Oct 12, 2019
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I'm blown away that you know all this! Holy shit. Are you a chemist or was google your friend
Dazedandconfused32
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- Jun 16, 2019
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I've taken ricin before which is somewhat like cyanide and I have to say not only did I barely scrape by at living it destroyed my gastrointestinal track to this day. I had blood coming out of every possible place it could. Extremely painful and I unluckily failed. Just not worth the pain and possible failure. It's pretty bad and I have a high tolerance for pain. Was unfortunately in the hospital for months. There are less painful and reliable methods for sure.
khw777
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GerMann
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Dazedandconfused32
She was the worlds biggest mistake
- Jun 16, 2019
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It wasn't fun, I will tell you that much. Was trying to find a 100% method not caring about the pain and suffering it could cause. Ended up not only in pain but still living...
khw777
Just trying to catch a bus!
- Oct 18, 2019
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Is risin like cyanide?It wasn't fun, I will tell you that much. Was trying to find a 100% method not caring about the pain and suffering it could cause. Ended up not only in pain but still living...
Dazedandconfused32
She was the worlds biggest mistake
- Jun 16, 2019
- 215
I should also say I took abrin seeds. And I took a lot. I just feel there's too much room for error. Best of luck
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khw777
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- Oct 18, 2019
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Dazedandconfused32
She was the worlds biggest mistake
- Jun 16, 2019
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I took it and fell unconscious at some point. My ex found me I guess, not sure of the exact details because I was in the ICU intubated for quite some time. It's all a blur honestly. Probably best that way. I wouldn't recommend trying it at all. I was told I was screaming in pain because apparently it tears the lining of your stomach and all. No bueno
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Dazedandconfused32
She was the worlds biggest mistake
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