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befree

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Due to the non-availability of N and fewer sources of SN we might have to think about reliable alternatives. One would be Propofol.

I know a source for Propofol (pure powder and oil) but don´t understand how much pure Propofol is needed to be 100% letal. As far as I know, 4000 mg is letal. Usually Propofol is only available as injection or infusion. The raw material is a powder which is not soluble in water, but only in oil. Usually soybean oil is used. I have heard of a case where someone mixed the powder in oil and drank it.

Someone said that the dose must be 97.3% higher if the solution is drunk instead of injected. Can anyone confirm this ? Does anyone have reliable information on the use of the powder and liquid ?
 
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Don't know about drinking it, but that is nuts. Even crazier that you know a source for this.

The solution has a milky quality to it, earning it the nickname milk of amnesia.
 
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The oral bioavailability of propofol is 2.7%. Since 1000mg of propofol will definitely kill someone, it is necessary to drink 37 grams of propofol. However, these data alone are not enough. No information is available on the pharmacokinetics of propofol in oral administration. If digestion is slow, propofol will not work as it is metabolized too quickly. For the CTB, the propofol blood concentration must maintain a peak effect of <25µg/ml long enough. Maybe 100-150 grams of propofol can do it. No one has ever attempted anything like this before. it's a gamble.
 
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The oral bioavailability of propofol is 2.7%. Since 1000mg of propofol will definitely kill someone, it is necessary to drink 37 grams of propofol. However, these data alone are not enough. No information is available on the pharmacokinetics of propofol in oral administration. If digestion is slow, propofol will not work as it is metabolized too quickly. For the CTB, the propofol blood concentration must maintain a peak effect of <25µg/ml long enough. Maybe 100-150 grams of propofol can do it. No one has ever attempted anything like this before. it's a gamble.
Ok, that makes sense. But not everyone is able to inject themselves Propofol. And as far as I know an infusion would even be better. So 1000 mg injectable Propofol will kill someone ? Someone else or you mentiond 4000 mg before. Do you know how long it takes to die after an injection or infusion of the letal dose ? I assume it will take longer if you drink it.
 
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A rapid bolus of 1000 mg of propofol is fatal. It is also fatal with an infusion lasting 2-3 minutes with that dose. I was planning to infuse 4000 mg but changed my mind because I don't trust the drip infusion system. I will inject 1800 mg in 3 minutes thats my plan now.Propofol is hard route to CTB.
 
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A rapid bolus of 1000 mg of propofol is fatal. It is also fatal with an infusion lasting 2-3 minutes with that dose. I was planning to infuse 4000 mg but changed my mind because I don't trust the drip infusion system. I will inject 1800 mg in 3 minutes thats my plan now.Propofol is hard route to CTB.
True, drip infusion systems are not always reliable. But there is a risk that during the 3 minutes of injection you will become unconscious. You may then no longer notice whether the entire dose has really been injected.
 
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True, drip infusion systems are not always reliable. But there is a risk that during the 3 minutes of injection you will become unconscious. You may then no longer notice whether the entire dose has really been injected.
Yes I had to make my own injection system for this. It works with 3 x 60 cc injectors. When I did a flow rate test with a drip infusion, one of the 2 IV lines stopped infusion for no reason. So I went back to my own injection system. It's a really hard setup to do but if you can make it, it's a VIP ticket for the CTB.
 
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So you don't want to inject the entire dose within 3 minutes. Is there a reason not to inject the whole dose at once ? I think that in the 3 minutes you might become unconscious after 1 minute and have no control how much is really injected. Imagine you wake up after 1 hour and see that only a small amount has been injected. The next thing is whether you have permanent damage.
 
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So you don't want to inject the entire dose within 3 minutes. Is there a reason not to inject the whole dose at once ? I think that in the 3 minutes you might become unconscious after 1 minute and have no control how much is really injected. Imagine you wake up after 1 hour and see that only a small amount has been injected. The next thing is whether you have permanent damage.
Injecting 1800mg of propofol in 1 minute burns veins and lungs like hell. With propofol, you'll be knocked down after just 10 seconds. 1800mg is a huge dose and 1-3 minutes doesn't matter. It causes cardiovascular collapse. I tested my system with 0.9 saline. It is working. I injected 100 ml of 0.9 saline in 45 - 50 seconds. It's a gravity-fed system and it can't stop. When the doctor starts injecting medication with a syringe through an IV line into your arm, the only way it will stop is if the doctor stops pushing the plunger. My system works the same way.
 
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It looks like for most people it would be easier to drink the letal dose instead of an injection/infusion.
 
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Cathy Ames

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It looks like for most people it would be easier to drink the letal dose instead of an injection/infusion.
Yes, it would be easier, but based on what @Sunset Limited said, it is unknown whether it would work even with the large 37-gram dose (or one even larger).
 
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Due to the non-availability of N and fewer sources of SN we might have to think about reliable alternatives. One would be Propofol.

I know a source for Propofol (pure powder and oil)
Could you PM me this source please
 
Sunset Limited

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Yes, it would be easier, but based on what @Sunset Limited said, it is unknown whether it would work even with the large 37-gram dose (or one even larger).
It is very difficult to drink 100 - 150 grams of propofol. It is insoluble in water. You have to dissolve it in oil and it probably tastes awful. Good point about it, propofol itself is an antiemetic. Probably no vomiting but still not sure. There doesn't seem to be a problem with buying propofol. I don't know who would want to try this. Big gamble.
 
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@mandyjohnuk : Yes. That´s the product.
It is very difficult to drink 100 - 150 grams of propofol. It is insoluble in water. You have to dissolve it in oil and it probably tastes awful. Good point about it, propofol itself is an antiemetic. Probably no vomiting but still not sure. There doesn't seem to be a problem with buying propofol. I don't know who would want to try this. Big gamble.
I think it´s not so difficult to drink 100-150 g Propofol powder in milk or oil. It doesn´t have to be 1 liter, right ?
 
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@mandyjohnuk : Yes. That´s the product.

I think it´s not so difficult to drink 100-150 g Propofol powder in milk or oil. It doesn´t have to be 1 liter, right ?
If you drink 150 grams, you can dissolve it in 200 ml of oil. I'm not sure. That means drinking 300 - 350ml of oil in total.
 
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Hi. What kind of oil would this be diluted in.
 
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Hi. What kind of oil would this be diluted in.
Medical use propofol is dissolved in soybean oil. It is emulsified as microparticles. It can be dissolved in any oil to drink.
 
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Cathy Ames

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Hi. What kind of oil would this be diluted in.
Are you talking about the product that appears in that picture you shared? That stuff is already an emulsion and wouldn't need further dilution. But it's only 1% propofol, and someone would have to drink a LOT of it to get a whole 37 grams. If I did the math right, it would take 3.7 liters. I think that would be difficult.
 
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If you drink 150 grams, you can dissolve it in 200 ml of oil. I'm not sure. That means drinking 300 - 350ml of oil in total.
Are you talking about the product that appears in that picture you shared? That stuff is already an emulsion and wouldn't need further dilution. But it's only 1% propofol, and someone would have to drink a LOT of it to get a whole 37 grams. If I did the math right, it would take 3.7 liters. I think that would be difficult.
I´m talking about the pure powder.
I found this but I don't know if it is trustable. 1 kg = 10 dollars.

I don´t think it´s a good idea to post sources. But as I said before, i know a source for both, powder and injectable emulsion.
 
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Cathy Ames

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I´m talking about the pure powder.
Obviously I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the person who posted the picture that was included in my reply.
 
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Are you talking about the product that appears in that picture you shared? That stuff is already an emulsion and wouldn't need further dilution. But it's only 1% propofol, and someone would have to drink a LOT of it to get a whole 37 grams. If I did the math right, it would take 3.7 liters. I think that would be difficult.
Yes you are right. Drinking powdered propofol is also risky. If it doesn't work then liver failure is there.
 
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Is here anyone who took both N and propofol? Does the effect feel the same, I mean I know that it takes much time for N to make you fall asleep, but does it feel the same? I was injected propofol and fell asleep really quick, it was really pleasant.
 
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The protocol used in Spain
 

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The protocol used in Spain
Similar with Canada's protocol. They are health professionals so they are using medical drugs. Too much drugs there. N is doing it as a single agent.
 
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Prefered by the medical professionals over Sodium Thiopental, I think 1 gram of Propofol is better than 6 gram of Nembutal.
I don't know why it can't be ingested just like Nembutal, may be some one can explain?
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befree

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This thread answers all your questions:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/propofol.89287/#post-1584420
 
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This thread answers all your questions:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/propofol.89287/#post-1584420
So, the ingestion can't be done due to low bioavailability of propofol if I'm not mistaken
 
befree

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So, the ingestion can't be done due to low bioavailability of propofol if I'm not mistaken
Right. But also the other infos in that thread are important to know. However I think it´s a great method. But where to get Propofol ??
 

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