saintives
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- Dec 23, 2019
- 38
J/w where i get propanol for increase SN heart rate? I have to go VERY soon i have no choice, does the PPH have it? Ty everyone I love this website and more inportantly the ability to CHOOSE
k75
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- Jun 27, 2019
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Amossoma543
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- Jan 31, 2020
- 116
I was prescribed it a few years ago for tremors due to MS symptoms. I let it lapse, though. I now wish I hadn't. It's often prescribed for high blood pressure.
k75
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- Jun 27, 2019
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Where I am, they are about 90% more likely to prescribe it instead of a benzo for anxiety. So it can't hurt to try.
Or as mentioned above, if you happen to have high blood pressure, there's also a great chance of getting it for that.
Defenestrator
Experienced
- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
Just go to the doctor and say you're anxious about some events coming up - propranolol is the most commonly prescribed drug off label there is, lol. They hand it out like it's nothing it seems.
k75
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- Jun 27, 2019
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If you already get a benzo, you could try asking for propranolol instead of it. Say you read about it being used and would like to try and see it it's better for you.
Nem
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- Sep 3, 2018
- 1,489
Is propranolol required for sn? Wouldn't just having a solid dose of benzos be sufficient? Is there something that can be taken instead of propranolol?
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Sadddd
How did I end up here
- Jan 26, 2020
- 57
Yeah they give it to me like sweets but can barely get diazepam from them. I expect if you ask for it they'll be pleased you're not asking for benzos
In the appropriate chapter, the PPeH gives a link to an online pharma that sells it w/o prescription. It comes as 80mg pills under the name "Inderal", so only 25 are needed.
That drug store also happens to sell other meds like Dilantin (N potentiator), Digoxin (DDMP2 cocktail) and Amitriptyline.
Didn't try ordering. As with any remote pharmacy, due diligence is advised.
That drug store also happens to sell other meds like Dilantin (N potentiator), Digoxin (DDMP2 cocktail) and Amitriptyline.
Didn't try ordering. As with any remote pharmacy, due diligence is advised.
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LegaliseIt!
Elementalist
- Nov 29, 2019
- 808
Artists and athletes use it for performance anxiety/stage fright. People who give a lot of presentations at work, etc. That would be my narrative if I were requesting a beta blocker.
fast check
When the only payment methods offered are ones that don't allow chargeback, like cryptocurrencies + Western Union + wire transfer, the website is almost certainly a scam. Here, credit cards are accepted, plus an optional insurance covering free reship is proposed. Mostly positive signs, likely to deliver?
Yet, the claim is to ship from various warehouses globally, from either Asia, Europe or USA, which is a tad suspect.
Given the shipment timeframes, likely the pills come from India or Hong-Kong, which can lead to a legal impact (importation). Last, a word of caution regarding the potency / guenine factor of such sourcing remains.
Anyway, this one is mentioned - not endorsed - by Exit
Sha70
Student
- Jul 22, 2018
- 103
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- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
Sha70
Student
- Jul 22, 2018
- 103
Ok. Wrong spelling. Propanol and propofol.
The PPeH puts it in slightly different terms as a conclusion, since it indicates that in fact it could accompany the loss of consciousness to make it happen quicker. If that assumption were correct, then it could be benefitial, especially since the reports are uncertain whether the passing sequence stays peaceful to everyone from start to finish.
Since Propanolol seems moderatly easily available, I find it intriguing that almost everyone choose to do without it as of now. That said, I understand that any addition of element remains experimental at this stage (then again, same for stripping down a protocol)
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Experienced
- Jan 17, 2020
- 257
Yeah, they're chemically very different - one is a beta blocker and the other is a hardcore sedative that can stop you from breathing.
Sha70
Student
- Jul 22, 2018
- 103
Spellings are similarYeah, they're chemically very different - one is a beta blocker and the other is a hardcore sedative that can stop you from breathing.
k75
L'appel du Vide
- Jun 27, 2019
- 2,546
To accomplish that, the PPH also recommends taking an overkill 2g of propranolol.
Most people who take propranolol with SN right now are hoping to control the physical symptoms that make it unpleasant. The other reasons seem to be secondary, I think. And a propranolol overdose can actually create the exact symptoms we want to get rid of, so it just seems like too much...
Regardless, it's totally optional and the method works just fine without it.
GinaIsReady
Exit Strategist
- Mar 29, 2019
- 995
To share my experience with this, I ordered Propranolol on Jan 5th from the store you are referring to. It never came. I contacted them and they re-shipped. That was last week and there is no way of tracking the shipment so I have no idea of when/if I'll get it.
GinaIsReady
Exit Strategist
- Mar 29, 2019
- 995
It's a little more than that. This is a quote from the PPH: "The propranolol interferes with the compensatory cardiac response to the effects of methemoglobin produced by the nitrite. As the brain receives insufficient oxygen a message is sent to the heart to increase blood flow. However, with propranolol present, the message is blocked and with no increase in blood-flow to the brain, consciousness is quickly lost."
So, propranolol is not necessary but there is more of a bonus than quieting the heart. One loses consciousness more quickly.
Good enough.
On another note, 2g of propanolol is also part of the DDMP cocktails, which are vastly documented as a very peaceful exit, actually just second to N. For the most recent years, it has replaced N as the exit of choice with pro-assisted dying associations in North America.
It was time, but even came accross a YT documentary of a DDMP2 exit recently. Unfortunately, the most interesting part is cut at the patient's will. Yet, dozens of invitees are attending the scene, so it must not have been horrific at all, as detailed in clinical reports which are numerous
Both DDMP 1 & 2 recipes share the same Propanolol amount, similar to the SN suggested OD one. It's just the other ingredients that differ and are more massive w/ the updated version.
In the end, I guess the onset is about when the toxicity triggers. A N exit can send to sleep in 2-5 minutes, a DDMP2 one takes a little longer, still usually around or less than 10 minutes. SN seems to take some more minutes, but not that much longer in the best cases. Just putting things into perspective, since DDMP2 also carries other potential interactions because it has 4 drugs. The Propanolol OD may (or may not) be ok regarding the SN experience. Nobody knows
On another note, 2g of propanolol is also part of the DDMP cocktails, which are vastly documented as a very peaceful exit, actually just second to N. For the most recent years, it has replaced N as the exit of choice with pro-assisted dying associations in North America.
It was time, but even came accross a YT documentary of a DDMP2 exit recently. Unfortunately, the most interesting part is cut at the patient's will. Yet, dozens of invitees are attending the scene, so it must not have been horrific at all, as detailed in clinical reports which are numerous
Both DDMP 1 & 2 recipes share the same Propanolol amount, similar to the SN suggested OD one. It's just the other ingredients that differ and are more massive w/ the updated version.
In the end, I guess the onset is about when the toxicity triggers. A N exit can send to sleep in 2-5 minutes, a DDMP2 one takes a little longer, still usually around or less than 10 minutes. SN seems to take some more minutes, but not that much longer in the best cases. Just putting things into perspective, since DDMP2 also carries other potential interactions because it has 4 drugs. The Propanolol OD may (or may not) be ok regarding the SN experience. Nobody knows
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k75
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- Jun 27, 2019
- 2,546
Yes, that's true. I kind of addressed that in my response below that. That's not why everyone here started using it. And it seems the most popular reason is to address the tachycardia.
It's funny, though. The pph started pushing it around the same time we started experimenting with it. They just increased the dose by a ton and expanded on the reasons.
interesting. Sorry about that.
In the event it doesn't arrive, you could always get your card refunded by contacting your bank, unless you paid with crypto ...if you feel like enduring that awkward moment, may be not worth it.
I'm suspecting you didn't pay for the expedited shipping method ? That one might have had a tracking number, unsure
Anyway, crossing fingers for ya
GinaIsReady
Exit Strategist
- Mar 29, 2019
- 995
Thanks for the bank tip. I did pay for the tracking number on the initial shipment, but I do not know if it was included in the second since it was free.
SuiSqueeze92
Self Saboteur
- Jan 15, 2020
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