Prolifers reward creating and visiting communities like SS

[Isittimetogonola]

I stumbled upon this site in a deep google search. It was a breath of fresh air. I wasn't as alone as I have always felt. If anything, the people here have kept me in this world a lot longer than without it. I think prolifers just want the notch in their "yay we saved one" belt before getting on to their next victim. Thank you to all the people here ❤

 

[TVtrays]

If any pro lifer happens to be reading this comment, please go away and leave us the fuck alone
Anyway, I've touched on this before, which is that death is a pretty big taboo and it's one of the ones that are extremely deeply ingrained into society. People by and large fear death and tend to project that fear onto people who are suicidal. Many feel that if they don't act, that they're personally responsible for somebody's death, or have a bit of a hero complex about them. Whatever it is, fear is a huge driver behind a lot of these attitudes. Ultimately, the thought that some people may prefer to die than to live is deeply uncomfortable to most. This is where I suggest that folks think rationally about the subject rather than acting on the emotional impulse to "save" us.

 

[s1mplem3]

I agree with you. Our health and lives - their money.

 

[Suez]

I have been thinking about how to word something like this for awhile.

Many people including myself came to SS to talk without fear of involuntary commitment. Our society punishes people for admitting suicidal thoughts. Something I learned firsthand at 17. It actually is what lead me to this site as I had no suicide plans beforehand. I used to lurk at r/legaladvice and horror stories similar to mine were posted all the time. They kidnap you (that's really what it is phenomenologically) and then charge you for the "help". This was a traumatizing experience to me and pretty much everyone else I talked to. A close friend of mine says the memory of her "hospitalization" brings her chills. For me it makes me want to smash something, remembering how powerless I was.

Most of us were told that we deserved this trauma, we don't receive any sympathy for other people. The only place people didn't blame us was on SS. The only place you can talk about how you feel without the threat of being locked up is here. If prolifers didn't want us to make our own community, they shouldn't have created the motivation to do so. There are books that give suicide instructions, other websites even. The reason SS is the most visible is that we're a community. A community that supports each other without any threats. There is no walking on eggshells here.

People will always try to avoid violence being enacted upon them.

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I know so well what you saying. For so many years I would keep my thoughts to myself. I still do because of the one time when i made the mistake of saying how i really felt. The first time, I had an appt with my Psychiatrist, the Dr told me she was wanting to take a break to look for some information that she would like to give me and about 10 minutes later the door opened and in walked four cops and behind them the Dr. That bitch had called the cops. I immediately backed myself into a corner, waiting for the cops to come at me. I was absolutely losing it, I was so incredibly angry at the Dr for screwing me. When the cops grabbed me i fought with everything i had. They opened the door out onto the street where i was then dragged outside, handcuffed, hog tied and thrown into a cop car and then transported to a Psych hospital . I was sectioned immediately and stayed there for 6 months. So the lesson i learnt from that was to never be honest with my Psychiatrist ever again. She couldnt have done more damage that day to She lost any respect i had for her that day too.me if she had tried. Why do they do that? Why is it you have to come to a website to be able to talk about how you really feel without fear of any repercussions. I should have been able to talk about suicide with her that day without her going ballistic and bringing cops in. If she was so concerned about me, talk to me, tell me, dont go behind my back and get me dragged out, handcuffed and hog tied. Never again.

If any pro lifer happens to be reading this comment, please go away and leave us the fuck alone
Anyway, I've touched on this before, which is that death is a pretty big taboo and it's one of the ones that are extremely deeply ingrained into society. People by and large fear death and tend to project that fear onto people who are suicidal. Many feel that if they don't act, that they're personally responsible for somebody's death, or have a bit of a hero complex about them. Whatever it is, fear is a huge driver behind a lot of these attitudes. Ultimately, the thought that some people may prefer to die than to live is deeply uncomfortable to most. This is where I suggest that folks think rationally about the subject rather than acting on the emotional impulse to "save" us.

I was trying to explain this to my social worker the other day. I had been talking to her about how i was looking forward to dying. There are things that im needing to do before i can go and I was saying how at times i found it so hard that things were taking so long to complete and all i could think about was dying. She said that made her feel really sad and that she wanted me to think about things that made me happy rather than thinking about dying and talked about making goals for the future. Did she not hear a thing i said????? Id spent the last half hour telling her how when i think of dying i feel at peace. I DONT NEED SAVING. I WANT TO DIE. I thought i was pretty clear in what i said. Your right tho, people are extremely uncomfortable when you talk about death. They want to save you when you talk about dying. Not everyone likes life or wants to live, when will they get that.

 

[itsmeagain]

Another problem is that they don't believe you. My friend was in psych.ward once, she said that had depression and suicide thoughts. They made everything look the way like she wanted to commit a suicide right now and neglected all the words she said before. Eventually they were giving her so many pills that she could not even go to the toilet on her own.

Please tell me she's better now >. <

 

[faust]

Please tell me she's better now >. <

Idk, the last time I met her she told me that she was still alive. From suicidal point of view it sounded like she is at least having suicidal thoughts.

 

[Broken Chimera]

I know so well what you saying. For so many years I would keep my thoughts to myself. I still do because of the one time when i made the mistake of saying how i really felt. The first time, I had an appt with my Psychiatrist, the Dr told me she was wanting to take a break to look for some information that she would like to give me and about 10 minutes later the door opened and in walked four cops and behind them the Dr. That bitch had called the cops. I immediately backed myself into a corner, waiting for the cops to come at me. I was absolutely losing it, I was so incredibly angry at the Dr for screwing me. When the cops grabbed me i fought with everything i had. They opened the door out onto the street where i was then dragged outside, handcuffed, hog tied and thrown into a cop car and then transported to a Psych hospital . I was sectioned immediately and stayed there for 6 months. So the lesson i learnt from that was to never be honest with my Psychiatrist ever again. She couldnt have done more damage that day to She lost any respect i had for her that day too.me if she had tried. Why do they do that? Why is it you have to come to a website to be able to talk about how you really feel without fear of any repercussions. I should have been able to talk about suicide with her that day without her going ballistic and bringing cops in. If she was so concerned about me, talk to me, tell me, dont go behind my back and get me dragged out, handcuffed and hog tied. Never again.

I was trying to explain this to my social worker the other day. I had been talking to her about how i was looking forward to dying. There are things that im needing to do before i can go and I was saying how at times i found it so hard that things were taking so long to complete and all i could think about was dying. She said that made her feel really sad and that she wanted me to think about things that made me happy rather than thinking about dying and talked about making goals for the future. Did she not hear a thing i said????? Id spent the last half hour telling her how when i think of dying i feel at peace. I DONT NEED SAVING. I WANT TO DIE. I thought i was pretty clear in what i said. Your right tho, people are extremely uncomfortable when you talk about death. They want to save you when you talk about dying. Not everyone likes life or wants to live, when will they get that.

This is a great example why people don't trust psychiatrists or police. How many people have been locked up just for being honest? Then they have the nerve to give you a bill for your forced incarceration. I'm sorry you went through that.

 

[ghostspace]

I can't say very much because psych hospital talk is a major trigger for me. (Which says a lot in itself.) I developed PTSD after being hospitalized at a mental health institution for 8 days. It was only 8 days and yet I felt unsafe and terrified enough that I developed a trauma disorder that I still struggle with today.

The system is f*cked. They'll find my dead body before they involuntarily commit me. The sound of those rolling, blue blood pressure machines give me panic attacks to this day, as well as being anywhere I can't easily exit.