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Exiled spirit

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Are there philosophers who said that suicide is good or it's better for people to end their lives?
 
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BornHated

BornHated

God may judge, but his sins outnumber your own.
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Antinatalism is a school of thought that could align with this- I actually remember reading of some antinatalist philosophers on wikipedia who believe suicide is dignified or something along the lines. Proponents of euthanasia probably agree too.
I find it interesting that we're encouraged to help our pets have a peaceful death by planning one out for them once their health declines enough in old age, but we don't do the same for humans... Well, I think the difference is that humans can usually still communicate their desires rather sensibly for the most part.
 
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Forever Sleep

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Arthur Schopenhauer apparently- I didn't know- I was interested and Googled it- although he didn't take his own life- seems like he thought it was a good option for everyone else though. Lol.

Quite a few did take their own lives by the looks of it though- or, at least attempted. No wonder... I find it depressing trying to fathom what the meaning to all this could be.
 
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Contemporary philosopher David Benatar has advanced the self-evidently controversial claim that "coming into existence is always a harm." Benatar's argument turns on the basic asymmetry between pleasure and pain, an asymmetry he seeks to explain by the principle that those who never exist cannot be deprived.
 
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Onw9

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Jun 19, 2022
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There are many pessimistic philosophers who believe non existence is better than existence. But there's rarely any pro suicide philosopher.

Hegesias of cyrenre wrote a book in which a man who has resolved to starve himself is introduced as representing to his friends that death is actually more to be desired than life. He really wrote this in 290 BC, bro knew what's up.

And there's philip mainlander who believed that before the beginning of the universe there was a god who had a choice to be or not to be, the god choose the later. Because the god was so powerful he couldn't simply kill himself so he transferred into small fragments which is our universe with space and time to acheive complete nothingness. This is what he calls the gods plan.(what we call today the heat death of the universe) He believed that we can gain salvation only through death but if one has created offspring than its fruitless, and we will be forwarding the gods plan by killing ourselves
 
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BornHated

BornHated

God may judge, but his sins outnumber your own.
Nov 19, 2022
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Contemporary philosopher David Benatar
This one. This is what I was thinking of earlier, but forgot the name and full concept. Thank you.

This is what he calls the gods plan.(what we call today the heat death of the universe) He believed that we can gain salvation only through death but if one has created offspring than its fruitless, and we will be forwarding the gods plan by killing ourselves
In physics and biology, life is defined by going in a different direction from the rest of the atoms in the universe in the way it consistently handles Entropy. It's the hallmark of life to do this and is what separates the organic chemical processes a life form sustains compared to the inorganic ones of the rest of the universe. Life is actively going against the grain of Heat Death. As far as anything regarding Deism of any kind goes, this is probably one of the soundest I've just learned of. Wtf.
Thank you for sharing this one.
 
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JM2RXA

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Not a philosopher but a bioethicist, and I can't remember his name, but he had a quote which was "the only people who are able to look favourably on the question as to why not commmit suicide, are the fortunate and the ignorant".

If anyone can think of their name, I'd be appreciative.
 
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Superdeterminist

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A defense of suicide by modern day philosopher Simon Critchley. Unfortunately he also raises some prolife counterpoints, but overall it's a pro choice talk.
 
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