Help Please help im about ready really nervous

[Flippy]

Oh that's awful. I had seen a couple of his posts but somehow I missed that!

 

[Backwood_tilt]

Gosh that sounds awful.

This is the 2nd time he ODed ..

Previous OD was a week ago

@Saddad i might be confusing you with someone else, but do you not also have exit bag/inert gas method set up?

Hope you feel better soon. Suicide by OD is difficult in modern times and you should probably consider another method if you try this again.

 

[EmptyArms]

I'm so sorry you had to put yourself through this. And so pleased that you are still with us. Please reach out to someone, anyone. I think you really need some comfort and kindness right now.

 

[Jean4]

I know there is a time difference, so you may not be on. We are thinking about you with love. Please update us when you can. We are concerned about you.

 

[Quarky00]

@Flippy , I tried to say that in previous post here.. our feedback was a bit inadequate He tried before , determined , etc

I'm not directing that at Flippy (or anyone else) , just explaining situation:)

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@Saddad i might be confusing you with someone else, but do you not also have exit bag/inert gas method set up?

He wrote a thread about that --

I have these 3 methods available.
480mg of crushed sandoz oxy , With pressed xannax
Nitrogen exit bag
Or SN
Which would you guys choose?

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(and I appear to be taking the role of being Saddad's solicitor..)

 

[Tim101]

Wouldn't I vomit that much up?

Vomit? Orally that amount will do nothing. If you popped the xanax and shot the oxy then..... maybe. Put it off until u research further......

 

[jgm63]

Hi @Saddad
Please have some good rest, then you can regroup, rethink, and plan whatever it is you wish to do next.
We'll support you in doing that in any way we can.....

 

[Quarky00]

Vomit? Orally that amount will do nothing. If you popped the xanax and shot the oxy then..... maybe. Put it off until u research further......

Could you elaborate on that ? :)

 

[Flippy]

If I remember correctly, in a rare moment I was discussing one of my I'll advised attempts when I was younger when I took several packs of ibuprofen. (I know, I know but I didn't know then what I know now) I was told that they put a small amount of something in the pills that if you have far too many it will cause you to vomit. Not sure if that's true but it's just popped into my mind from years ago.

 

[Tim101]

Could you elaborate on that ? :)

I am NOT suggesting anything but if one swallowed 3 times the xanax and shot up double the oxy then.... maybe.

 

[Quarky00]

Yeah, many examples of that: buprenorphine-naloxone , codeine-paracetmol , etc .

But Saddad experimented. Said pills turned to gel , inhibiting abuse. He found a brand where the coating could be removed easily.

He also considered taking Meto and I replied in thread this was a bit too much to mix all. I guess he was right ... :|

 

[Tim101]

Yeah, many examples of that: buprenorphine-naloxone , codeine-paracetmol , etc .

But Saddad experimented. Said pills turned to gel , inhibiting abuse. He found a brand where the coating could be removed easily.

He also considered taking Meto and I replied in thread this was a bit too much to mix all. I guess he was right ... :|

Bup/nal is pointless. Codeine is nothing......
One would need oxynorm or generic oxy

 

[Quarky00]

I am NOT suggesting anything but if one swallowed 3 times the xanax and shot up double the oxy then.... maybe.

And vomit? Why shouldn't one vomit?
There are many ODs reported of 500mg.. You don't need to suggest anything just explain a bit more, in general :)

Bup/nal is pointless. Codeine is nothing......One would need oxynorm or generic oxy

I was answering to Flippy (about med mixes that may make you vomit etc).
Could you please elaborate (for example explain why).
You say interesting things but without details... We don't understand :)

 

[Flippy]

Yeah, many examples of that: buprenorphine-naloxone , codeine-paracetmol , etc .

But Saddad experimented. Said pills turned to gel , inhibiting abuse. He found a brand where the coating could be removed easily.

He also considered taking Meto and I replied in thread this was a bit too much to mix all. I guess he was right ... :|

Ah so it is true!? I thought it might be one of those urban legends. That explains a lot, this was back at a time where you could buy a few packs of pain killers without stores getting nervous. All it did was cause me to wake up covered in bright pink vomit :-0 and every time I was sick my ears were making whistling noises. I really thought I might have done myself some permanent damage but apparently not.

 

[heheb27595]

There is a lot of pro-life in here, oh lala. Im beginning to think this forum is all but fake. That the original SS is gone and this is not SS anymore. SN is a laugh, meto does the opposite of what it is supposed to do. ( I have meto taking them for long time, other reasons) When someone come up with something better than SN everybody freak out. What about fentanyl OD to CBT, it is peaceful and easier to get than SN.

 

[Quarky00]

Ah so it is true!? I thought it might be one of those urban legends. That explains a lot, this was back at a time where you could buy a few packs of pain killers without stores getting nervous. All it did was cause me to wake up covered in bright pink vomit :-0 and every time I was sick my ears were making whistling noises. I really thought I might have done myself some permanent damage but apparently not.

I don't know it it is true , just that FDA & Pharma heavily develop meds to prevent abuse .. Many efforts are put into this . Not sure intentionally causing people to vomit .

You've had some wild rides there ..

 

[Tim101]

And vomit? Why shouldn't one vomit?
There are many ODs reported of 500mg.. You don't need to suggest anything just explain a bit more, in general :)


I was answering to Flippy (about med mixes that may make you vomit etc).
Could you please elaborate (for example explain why).
You say interesting things but without details... We don't understand :)

I will TRY
the nalaxone in any opiate stops the ceiling dose. It is an antagonist thus used to revive those who have OD on any opiate.
Oral oxy is metabolised down to about a third of the dose. Vomiting in most especially the naive will bring it up thus nothing in the gut to OD on. The best one could hope for is to gag on their vomit.
Meto should be replaced with cimetidine.

 

[Quarky00]

Vomiting in most especially the naive will bring it up thus nothing in the gut to OD on. The best one could hope for is to gag on their vomit.

So oral Oxy will always cause vomit ? Any reason for that ? So, can't OD on that ?

Meto should be replaced with cimetidine.

Why ? :) Cimetidine reduces acid formations, how would that help with Oxy ?

(sorry for so many question, really interesting)

 

[SuiSqueeze92]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that he plug this concoction. No vomit, bypass the liver, rectal membranes/lower GI absorb directly into the blood. Everyone is saying it's a lower dose, but if it hits like a Mack truck then that may change things. Purely for educational purposes and not suggesting you stick things up your ass.

Okay you MIGHT vomit, I think from experience with Opana pucks I did a few times but those fuckers are stronggg and that's wouldn't affect strength anyway.

 

[Tim101]

There is a lot of pro-life in here, oh lala. Im beginning to think this forum is all but fake. That the original SS is gone and this is not SS anymore. SN is a laugh, meto does the opposite of what it is supposed to do. ( I have meto taking them for long time, other reasons) When someone come up with something better than SN everybody freak out. What about fentanyl OD to CBT, it is peaceful and easier to get than SN.

Agree. I was here ages ago and left. I returned with new user name for a fresf start. People are pro life more and more. The reason being 90% of posters attempt CTB without proper or indeed meticulous reseach.
The next we shall hear if it is possible for one to CTB with and OD by a few cups of GREEN TEA or a salad sandwich!

So oral Oxy will always cause vomit ? Any reason for that ? So, can't OD on that ?


Why ? :) Cimetidine reduces acid formations, how would that help with Oxy ?

(sorry for so many question, really interesting)

CYP42D6 inhibition.

 

[Quarky00]

@Tim101 , Thanx, and oral oxy useless ? You wrote not absorbed , and likely to vomit .. sounds ineffective .

 

[heheb27595]

Agree. I was here ages ago and left. I returned with new user name for a fresh start. People are pro life more and more.

When someone is going to CBT with SN, people are like RIP, bon voyage, ect.
Someone come up with opiace (which as a high probability of OD) everyone freak out and him, no on no, talk to me, without giving any valid reasons why it wouldn't works. SN is an antidote of cyanide. I feel people are laughing at us.

 

[Saddad]

Thanks for everyone commenting,

I have read about so many accidental deaths in relation to oxycodone, I assumed it couldnt be that hard intebtjinaly.

Didnt think it would take too much so.

What could possibly happen in these low dose accidental o.d in most I have read alchol is a factor and in others benzo.

 

[Tim101]

@Tim101 , Thanx, and oral oxy useless ? You wrote not absorbed , and likely to vomit .. sounds ineffective .

CYP42D6 will satisy your question. Oral oxy is reduced by one third I have stated. Plugging can sometimes be effective but if one wants to OD and die learn how to filter and blast it IV.......

 

[Quarky00]

CYP42D6 will satisy your question.

Oh well but it doesn't --



Probably a liver enzyme, wonder which were you referring to.. Don't know why vomiting induced by that enzyme (inhibition?), it's usually stomach issue.

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without giving any valid reasons why it wouldn't work

True , because we don't know :)

And we have asked.

 

[Saddad]

This is getting very high brow for me now,

I am beginning to wonder if the cases I have read of accidental o.d are either street presses with F in them or just freak accidents.

Does seem to be rather a few to be coincidence

 

[Ghost2211]

I hope you're feeling better. That sounds like an unpleasant and disappointing experience for you. This is why I won't try od ever. It seems too hit and miss.

 

[Saddad]

Not to bad tbh just vomiting sweating and waking up with a dead arm....

The opiate idea seems flawed orally as my body wants to evict it.....

I did down two cans of coke in the hope to break them down so even the vom didnt taste too bad....

 

[Jean4]

Not to bad tbh just vomiting sweating and waking up with a dead arm....

The opiate idea seems flawed orally as my body wants to evict it.....

I'm glad you are ok. We were worried about you!

 

[Girobatol]

The vomit came because you were drunk, thats my guess.