athiestjoe

athiestjoe

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Sep 24, 2024
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Hey everyone,

I want to take a moment to honor my friend, Plato'sCaveDweller. Although our friendship was brief, it was filled with unforgettable moments. They were thoughtful, caring, and incredibly intelligent. Plato's last request was for me to share a timeline of their passing, and I want to do so with the respect it deserves. Plato was a true ally, always helping me with grammar and spelling in my posts without ever seeking recognition. They let me take the shine for my posts, but truth be told those posts would have been shitty without their insights and feedback; Plato was a trusted keen eye, always eager to let me know if there were any gaps that needed to be filled in, and also provided some much-needed spell check and grammar editing. Thank you, my friend.

Out of respect for Plato, I kindly ask that we keep this thread focused and refrain from seeking information about sources. In their final days, Plato aimed to give back to SaSu, and we should honor that intention.

As a disclaimer, I want to clarify that a mutual friend provided this timeline, and they wish to remain anonymous. I discussed this disclaimer with Plato, and they agreed that transparency aligns with my character. I fully trust the accuracy of this information, as the individual sharing it has no reason to mislead. This person is well-respected on this site, so please refrain from speculating about their identity. If they wanted to be known, they would have shared this themselves; speculation could discourage them from helping others in the future. Thank you for your understanding. Plato did not originally intend or plan to document their CTB but in the end decided it was something they would like to give back to the site by doing and also in helping quell any of the recent concerns about DMC's SN if it were successful; they asked me to clarify this for them since in their GBT they said they would not be providing further updates.

You can find Plato's protocol on their goodbye thread, where they thoughtfully detailed their approach (DMC source, stat meto, no benzos, no beta blockers). Plato used a BP monitor and pulse oximeter and took stats going into the call, then used it during the call. It is possible the initial O2 reading was either misread or written down incorrectly but I am leaving it 'as is' since it does not take away from the overall recollection and I am not going to edit any of it for the sake of transparency and respect for both Plato and the person who sent me these details.

Without further ado, here is the recounting of their final moments on October 17, 2024:

-- All times in PDT (UTC-7) --
10:00 975mg Tylenol
10:15 30mg Meto
10:17 130BPM
10:18 O2 90
10:20 BP 131/96
10:25 Locked door to spot
10:35 Opening SN (DMC, came in a bag inside a bag, ordered on sept 3rd, received 14th Sept)
10:37 Weighing things out
10:40 Distributions made for each cup (3 prepared)
10:46 Measuring water
10:49 Dissolving SN
10:52 Bringing glasses to spot
10:54 Putting on BP cuff
10:58 BP 146/96, Pulse 134, O2 97%
11:00 1st cup SN
11:01 O2 97, pulse 162, BP 144/80
11:02 "Chemical tasting burps"
11:03 Mentally ok, slight nausea, coughing
11:04 Puked x 1 + more burping
11:05 O2 90, retching, puke x 3
11:06 Burping, spitting
11:07 Another puke, doesn't think they can take 2nd cup
11:08 Going to try second cup
11:09 Lightheaded, fast heart rate
11:10 Retching, more spitting, possible puke
11:11 "Second cup not possible, going to lay down"
11:12 Faster breathing
11:13 Labored breath sounds
11:14 Intense breath sounds
11:15 Falling noise, likely off of bed
11:17 Silence
11:18 Low moaning, pretty quiet, likely losing consciousness
11:19 Small background noise, choppy breath sounds
11:20 Choppy breath
11:21 Spaced out, choppy breath sounds
11:22 Slight groaning breath, gasping inhales
11:23 Gasping inhales continue, choppy pattern
11:24 No words, longer breath sounds
11:25 More spaced out, slower gasping sounding breaths
11:26 Slower gasping breath sounds
11:27 Tiny groaning breath noise, small background noise
11:28 Big hoarse breath (last?)
11:30 - 12:20 Silence.

Thank you to the person (you know who you are) for doing this for my friend and thank you all on here for being amazing in all ways. The user who accompanied Plato was reassured by how they were feeling, happy yet nervous. They were very lucky to have Plato trust them in those final moments. They shared genuine laughs and probably would have been great friends in real life, but they value them just the same, and have found solace in the fact that they are at peace, after multiple failed attempts. They are free now.

Plato truly cherished this community. While I wish I could say I look forward to reuniting with them on "the other side," we both believed in non-existence after death. One of the things that brought us closer was our shared, science-based perspective on life and death. They offered me tremendous comfort, even though they thought they weren't particularly good at consoling others or knowing what to say; I always found their presence incredibly reassuring. I will greatly miss our daily conversations now they are gone; I always looked forward to every morning having something in my inbox from them. That, I will miss. I have peace knowing they aren't suffering anymore though.

Finally, Plato wanted to leave us with two songs which I am linking below:




May this information serve as a helpful, educational resource for others. I take lots of comfort in knowing they found the serenity they sought.
 
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opheliaoveragain

opheliaoveragain

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Jun 2, 2024
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"All the saints and sinners are the same
We're blessed, then we obliterate
And that's how it was written from the start
It's a song that we were born to sing
About the end of everything
Until it all goes up in one last spark"

Peace, peace, peace. Candles are lit for you, P. 💕
 
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Abyssal

Abyssal

Probably gonna die soon maybe?
Nov 26, 2023
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These are always surreal. I feel hopeful that there's a good chance to die even if I can't manage to get down the second cup. This didn't sound entirely peaceful, though. May Plato find peace.
 
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athiestjoe

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Sep 24, 2024
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"All the saints and sinners are the same
We're blessed, then we obliterate
And that's how it was written from the start
It's a song that we were born to sing
About the end of everything
Until it all goes up in one last spark"

Peace, peace, peace. Candles are lit for you, P. 💕
Candles lit here too. Plato held a unique place in my heart, which feels quite strange for me to admit. I had always vowed never to forge "friendships" formed here, nor did I ever actively seek one out. Yet, against all odds, Plato managed to weave their way into my previously unyielding heart. This unexpected connection speaks volumes about the remarkable person they were, and it's a testament to the profound impact they could have on others. Def missing my amigo but am at peace knowing they aren't suffering anymore.

May Plato find peace.
Indeed, I have no doubts they are no longer suffering which is my consolation in knowing.
 
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DOHARDTHINGS24

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Apr 30, 2024
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Candles lit here too. Plato held a unique place in my heart, which feels quite strange for me to admit. I had always vowed never to forge "friendships" formed here, nor did I ever actively seek one out. Yet, against all odds, Plato managed to weave their way into my previously unyielding heart. This unexpected connection speaks volumes about the remarkable person they were, and it's a testament to the profound impact they could have on others. Def missing my amigo but am at peace knowing they aren't suffering anymore.


Indeed, I have no doubts they are no longer suffering which is my consolation in knowing.
I did not want friends here.
They did not either.
And yet here we are.
Or rather, there we were.
Part of our friendship was me ramming old people songs into their young persons brain.
I sent them the Guns n Roses song "Coma" because I love it but also relistening to it recently, it gave me hope as well as making me think of them. I just sent them the title & one line, the one that starts with "I wish…" but they were also enamoured with the rest, below, as they sent it all back to me.

No one's gonna bother me anymore
No one's gonna mess with my head no more
I can't understand what all the fighting's for
But it's so nice here down off the
shore

I wish you could see this 'cause there's nothing to see
It's peaceful here and it's fine with me
Not like the world where I used to live
I never really wanted to live


I'm so grateful for you guys doing this.
I'm so pleased for success. I'm so pleased for spreading information, instead of misinformation.
Hope instead of fear.
Being allies for those that come after us.
But selfishly, I'm struggling & have to keep reminding myself that this is what they wanted.
What I still want for myself.
I want them free & happy or free & nothing or free & anything. I just wish they could have that but I could keep my inbox full of random messages about god & veganism & Batman & googly-eyed rocks & how to properly spell segue & how to appropriately incorporate the C-word into everyday language.
It is missed. It will remain missed. They will not be forgotten.
Thanks again for doing such a profound & necessary task.
 
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SVEN

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Apr 3, 2023
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Thankyou.
 
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Fangarina

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Sep 9, 2024
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Plato 🥺

Thank you for sharing, and thank you to Unknown for also being a part of this. Always makes me feel strange when we say goodbye to people here, we know it's a high probability but it doesn't make the sadness any less. The timeline of his passing give me reassurance that mine will be as peaceful and quick too.

Plato contributed a great deal to this community, and his posts were always very well thought out and diplomatic. He is going to be a huge loss to us all, and I will light a candle and hope he has found his peace.

so long friend 🕯️❤️‍🩹
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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Rest in peace.
 
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pariah80

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Aug 12, 2024
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Rest in peace
 
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kotonearisato

momento mori
Feb 13, 2024
54
Thank you both for doing this for Plato. They're such a genuine, kind person. We didn't really talk, but I saw them in threads a lot, always helping people where they could. They'll absolutely be missed, but I'm glad they can rest peacefully now.
 
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LostSoul1965

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Apr 15, 2024
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Very beautiful words for a beautiful person. May Plato find the peace and happiness he deserved. RIP my friend. Thank you to everyone involved in making this. 🙏
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,763
I'm glad you were able to be with Plato during Plato's last moments and also sharing his SN experience for SaSu. Also, I'm glad Plato has finally found peace and is no longer suffering in this world.
 
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skyflame

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Oct 1, 2024
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Thinking of you Plato, and sending love to the folks here that knew them well. Reach out if you need to x
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Oct 2, 2024
196
Rest In Peace this sounds absolutely horrible and now scares me the not just vomiting but retching
 
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nir

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Aug 18, 2024
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Oh this breaks my heart, but it doesn't sound like it was painful or too prolonged. I hope they rest in peace <3
 
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yellowjester

yellowjester

Experienced
Jun 2, 2024
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Finally, Plato wanted to leave us with two songs which I am linking below
"Ed sheeran - salt water", lol I appreciate that sense of humor. Rest in peace.
 
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maniac116

maniac116

My own worst enemy🌹💔
Aug 10, 2024
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Goodbye friend🌹💔
 
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Kali_Yuga13

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Jul 11, 2024
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I didn't interact with him here but his name always stuck in my mind as something someone witty and well read would come up with. I hope you attained what you desired outside of the cave Plato. RIP.
 
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GalacticWarrior777

GalacticWarrior777

When will I find an exit?
Sep 24, 2024
106
Godspeed Plato.
 
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hopeless123

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Sep 6, 2021
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I'm very grateful to you both for providing this feedback.

We now know the later batches of DMC's stuff is legit, he said he bought it recently right? I wonder how useful Meto actually is? The SN would be so strong that it would have little to no effect or maybe it's because he didn't take it throughout the day or even the day before?

I think I'll need benzos for this but would I need the paracetamol?

Again, I'm so very grateful. Thank you so much. This is finally giving me some hope...
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
2,561
Thanks Plato. he and i agree with that video the universe will die, the universe really will expand into nothingness , there will be nothing forever

the evil curse that is DNA based life will die forever and never rise again

after Death for a human or anything is non-existence forever
 
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sadlittleman32

Was going to jump…now using SN
Sep 17, 2024
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Rest in peace brother❤️ you helped me and so many others on this forum and if there was a sasu hall of fame you would definitely be in it!!
 
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nihilistic_dragon

Dead already. Just need to dispose of my body now.
Aug 6, 2024
544
Rest in peace Plato
 
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CantDoIt

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Jul 18, 2024
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Rip Plato, you were one of my faves to see on here.
 
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probablysoon

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Thank you for sharing this.
 
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offbalance

All I want is peace
Dec 16, 2021
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We had brief interactions and I've seen him around this forum a lot. He seemed like a genuinely nice, helpful person and this feels surreal and sad to me even though we never had an actual conversation. Rest In Peace…

it is interesting how he only needed one cup even though he puked a few times after that. It makes me wonder what the quantifiable probability of dying after one cup is. I would be too paranoid to not take another cup after puking but I understand it wasn't possible for him, but it does bring hope like another poster said.
 
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Dayrain

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Feb 3, 2023
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@athiestjoe Thank you for these honest words.
 
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athiestjoe

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Sep 24, 2024
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I'm so pleased for success. I'm so pleased for spreading information, instead of misinformation.
Hope instead of fear.
Indeed!! So much hope.
Plato contributed a great deal to this community, and his posts were always very well thought out and diplomatic. He is going to be a huge loss to us all, and I will light a candle and hope he has found his peace.
One of the most thoughtful people I knew on here, always super easy going and put effort into all of their posts and replies. A true gem.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace & power!
They're such a genuine, kind person.
Remarkably so.
"Ed sheeran - salt water", lol I appreciate that sense of humor. Rest in peace.
When I got their request to include the songs, I had a chuckle and knew their sense of humor was going to hit well. Taking some of their final moments in thinking about what to leave us with, thoughtful as ever.
He seemed like a genuinely nice, helpful person
Nothing but helpful and kind, never ceased to amaze me seeing their eloquence and care put into whatever posts they made or PMs they sent me. Always so well articulated!
you were one of my faves to see on here.
Absolutely ditto to this.
 
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Coringa

Coringa

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Mar 19, 2024
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I would just like to ask a question, as english is not my native language and it could simply be a translation error, but I saw in the post and in some answers referring to Plato about it being them. After all, is it just one person or two?
 
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athiestjoe

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I would just like to ask a question, as english is not my native language and it could simply be a translation error, but I saw in the post and in some answers referring to Plato about it being them. After all, is it just one person or two?
No problem! I usually just use non-gendered pronouns and refer to everyone individually as they/them. Plato was just one person.
 
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