Recently there had been a skirmish in a thread, which prompted me to ask staff the close the thread. Someone did make a good point though.
Originally pentobarbital was not my method of choice. I was upset when I learned that exsanguination just does not work, some lethal drugs like cyanide were no longer available at all. The modern world and its incoveniences. There were many considerations, at some point (mid 2018 ?) I tried to obtain sodium azide only to learn that the REACH guidelines had made it completely unavailable. Even a seller in Poland would not respond by email.Now, it may be I recently did find a seller who would sell me sodium azide. Currently it's out of stock. Even so, it's extremely brutal and I would rather avoid that gruesome fate. You really need some balls.
At some point I allowed my doubts to be 'put at ease' and for lack of availability of anything else, I decided to pursue Nembutal. I just received it very, very late.
Now I have a full 13 gr of Nembutal at hand. With the promise of a soft death. Possibly, gruesome alternatives like sodium azide. The temptation of N over SA, right ?
Obviously, I'd prefer a soft death. But the comment that an altered central nervous system, heavy tolerance to or dependence on sedatives (CNS depressants) can change things, to an extent that you may not be able to overcome this by increasing the dose made sense. After all, the way pentobarbital mainly exerts its lethal influence is by hypoxia. Which is mostly caused by its effect on the brain stem. I know the theory, there is definitely cross tolerance with benzodiazepines but also other sedatives. It came to my attention that there may be a very real chance of surviving N, but with brain damage or other organ damage.
We have to keep in mind that many of those suicide books have been written by doctors. Some advise tapering off drugs like benzodiazepines prior to the deed. Unlike many other people, I did not have an ethical doctors but suffered severe iatrogenic damage caused by medical errors, in somatic healthcare. I'll skip the specifics. They really messed me up. As far as drugs go, not just a simple sleeping pill because I asked for it ... It usually gets worse when doctors do that sort of thing.
I certainly don't have that rosy picture of doctors that some people have. I'm not one of those people who have been treated so well as the people who got treatment by the Dutch and Swiss Euthanasia/assisted suicide services.
The pentobarbital is at hand. Duration of action about 1-2 hours. If it doesn't kill me there may be very unpleasant consequences. In a previous thread someone suggested Dilantin (also mentioned by Nitschke?) but that itself could be very brutal if the pentobarbital doesn't work properly, it's not an analgesic.
Ideas about anything to add to the pentobarbital method ? I know the other method threads, obviously.
Originally pentobarbital was not my method of choice. I was upset when I learned that exsanguination just does not work, some lethal drugs like cyanide were no longer available at all. The modern world and its incoveniences. There were many considerations, at some point (mid 2018 ?) I tried to obtain sodium azide only to learn that the REACH guidelines had made it completely unavailable. Even a seller in Poland would not respond by email.Now, it may be I recently did find a seller who would sell me sodium azide. Currently it's out of stock. Even so, it's extremely brutal and I would rather avoid that gruesome fate. You really need some balls.
At some point I allowed my doubts to be 'put at ease' and for lack of availability of anything else, I decided to pursue Nembutal. I just received it very, very late.
Now I have a full 13 gr of Nembutal at hand. With the promise of a soft death. Possibly, gruesome alternatives like sodium azide. The temptation of N over SA, right ?
Obviously, I'd prefer a soft death. But the comment that an altered central nervous system, heavy tolerance to or dependence on sedatives (CNS depressants) can change things, to an extent that you may not be able to overcome this by increasing the dose made sense. After all, the way pentobarbital mainly exerts its lethal influence is by hypoxia. Which is mostly caused by its effect on the brain stem. I know the theory, there is definitely cross tolerance with benzodiazepines but also other sedatives. It came to my attention that there may be a very real chance of surviving N, but with brain damage or other organ damage.
We have to keep in mind that many of those suicide books have been written by doctors. Some advise tapering off drugs like benzodiazepines prior to the deed. Unlike many other people, I did not have an ethical doctors but suffered severe iatrogenic damage caused by medical errors, in somatic healthcare. I'll skip the specifics. They really messed me up. As far as drugs go, not just a simple sleeping pill because I asked for it ... It usually gets worse when doctors do that sort of thing.
I certainly don't have that rosy picture of doctors that some people have. I'm not one of those people who have been treated so well as the people who got treatment by the Dutch and Swiss Euthanasia/assisted suicide services.
The pentobarbital is at hand. Duration of action about 1-2 hours. If it doesn't kill me there may be very unpleasant consequences. In a previous thread someone suggested Dilantin (also mentioned by Nitschke?) but that itself could be very brutal if the pentobarbital doesn't work properly, it's not an analgesic.
Ideas about anything to add to the pentobarbital method ? I know the other method threads, obviously.
Last edited:
