Resource Peaceful Pill Charts Carbon Monoxide vs. SN vs. SA (CO rates highest in Peacefulness)

[Dawn0071111]

Here are the charts side by side.... I did soooooo much research & believe the fastest most comfortable CTB, is by CO. Also looks like Azide beats out SN, but the peacefulness is questionable, but its still fast and the Peaceful Pill Book lists SA as the next best alternative to Nembutal...

So just wanted to throw this out there... I have decided against SN and will procure SA instead.

Charts attached to this post.

Would love to hear yalls thoughts.

 

[JimFord99]

Interesting chart, great work, Dawn. I have SA as a backup plan. Can you tell me about the lethal dosage of SA and how to take it? I only guess but is it the same way as SN? Is it painful?

 

[ddim]

IMHO, the major problem of Carbon Monoxide is "how to generate and intake".
Burning something might not that easy in some case, and other people have chance to notice the smoke.

 

[Fragile]

in my opinion carbon monoxide beats sn if done correctly, the thing is that sn is way easier to prepare but i'm having serious doubts about the peacefulness of this method, many survivors describe terrible headaches and a long wait until passing out and stomach discomfort so the dreaded survival instinct kicks in fast.

i'm seriously considering carbon monoxide, people tend to over-complicate this method on this site because of the perceived need for a CO metter, but that is just unnecessary if you take the right precautions and find a suitable place. many people have died from it by accident and many more have successfully killed themselves with little more than some charcoal and a little stove. plus it is quite a popular and reliable method in many asian countries so that should mean something.

i would still preffer to go by N or fentanyl, but those drugs are so hard to aquire compared to just buying some charcoal at a random mall.

 

[Can'tStandAnymore]

CO is more peaceful, but also more dangerous than SN. Probably you know, CO has different mechanisms on brain other than oxygen depletion. It's more likely cause long-term brain damage if you fail.

 

[Rdc]

Here are the charts side by side.... I did soooooo much research & believe the fastest most comfortable CTB, is by CO. Also looks like Azide beats out SN, but the peacefulness is questionable, but its still fast and the Peaceful Pill Book lists SA as the next best alternative to Nembutal...

So just wanted to throw this out there... I have decided against SN and will procure SA instead.

Charts attached to this post.

Would love to hear yalls thoughts.

I thought you had a portable generator and was going to use CO to CTB? Did something happen to change your method?

 

[PatKat]

My next attempt i will be using PS, and have charcoal in the bathroom going. I figure that cannot fail.

 

[Rdc]

CO is more peaceful, but also more dangerous than SN. Probably you know, CO has different mechanisms on brain other than oxygen depletion. It's more likely cause long-term brain damage if you fail.

I don't like the fact that with SN you can be awake for 12-20 minutes with a massive headache and excruciating stomach pain while you watch your skin turn blue before passing out. I'm trying to decide between SN, CO or gun. All three methods have pros and cons and potential serious consequences for failure. I like CO because I like the thought of going to sleep and not waking up however getting a reliable source of CO seems challenging and you run the risk of brain damage.

 

[Dawn0071111]

I thought you had a portable generator and was going to use CO to CTB? Did something happen to change your method?

I have the generator... Still is my main & preferred, but requires a well thought out & executed plan..... So I want an alternative that can be done anytime, anywhere just in case.... So SA would be good "in case of emergency break glass" method

My next attempt i will be using PS, and have charcoal in the bathroom going. I figure that cannot fail.

What is PS?

 

[Dantec]

in my opinion carbon monoxide beats sn if done correctly, the thing is that sn is way easier to prepare but i'm having serious doubts about the peacefulness of this method, many survivors describe terrible headaches and a long wait until passing out and stomach discomfort so the dreaded survival instinct kicks in fast.

i'm seriously considering carbon monoxide, people tend to over-complicate this method on this site because of the perceived need for a CO metter, but that is just unnecessary if you take the right precautions and find a suitable place. many people have died from it by accident and many more have successfully killed themselves with little more than some charcoal and a little stove. plus it is quite a popular and reliable method in many asian countries so that should mean something.

i would still preffer to go by N or fentanyl, but those drugs are so hard to aquire compared to just buying some charcoal at a random mall.

I hesitate to use this method but your analysis is interesting...

 

[a.h]

CO is more peaceful, but also more dangerous than SN. Probably you know, CO has different mechanisms on brain other than oxygen depletion. It's more likely cause long-term brain damage if you fail.

I think that is why people write to everywhere to have a CO meter and that levels should be high.

 

[Dantec]

@a.h i think this CO counter is just an object that reassures people who doubt their abilities in terms of CTB. I read different articles on the subject with conflicting opinions, but I also had access to a forum that gathers photos and videos about CO's suicide. and in no case this device is used.

Couple Commits Suicide by Charcoal in Car

I found this in Thai news. Seems a common suicide method there... With the help of Google translator, I found many others cases, but always blurred...

www.documentingreality.com

A post on this forum enlightened me on the subject because the proposed PDF is in my original language, stop the legends thank you.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/demystification-of-carbon-monoxide.18907/#post-415436

 

[a.h]

That is absolutely everyone's choice. Some ways create lots of CO and I don't personally think that it's necessary with everything.
In this site people have told they had failures due to too low levels of CO with coals and side effects (not leaving but passing out and waking with bad headache).

 

[Trainwreck]

The peacefulness of SN seems kind of variable. There are those survivors who talk about how awful it was, but there are others who say they had little discomfort (but failed due to being discovered).

 

[sleepy dog]

Here are the charts side by side.... I did soooooo much research & believe the fastest most comfortable CTB, is by CO. Also looks like Azide beats out SN, but the peacefulness is questionable, but its still fast and the Peaceful Pill Book lists SA as the next best alternative to Nembutal...

So just wanted to throw this out there... I have decided against SN and will procure SA instead.

Charts attached to this post.

Would love to hear yalls thoughts.

Please learn from myself and others. DO MORE RESEARCH.
You have an older version of the charts. SN has upgraded since then and more info is being gathered especially the last 9 months.
CO is a flammable gas, you could cause an explosion and fire. You could kill others if the gas gets to them and they won't know about it. You could survive but do harm to others and go to prison.
I guess you mean sodium azide by SA. It is not as peaceful as SN. It could cause an explosion or other damage if handled incorrectly. You could do harm to others with an explosion.
I am not attacking. Trying to be helpful.

 

[Dawn0071111]

Please learn from myself and others. DO MORE RESEARCH.
You have an older version of the charts. SN has upgraded since then and more info is being gathered especially the last 9 months.
CO is a flammable gas, you could cause an explosion and fire. You could kill others if the gas gets to them and they won't know about it. You could survive but do harm to others and go to prison.
I guess you mean sodium azide by SA. It is not as peaceful as SN. It could cause an explosion or other damage if handled incorrectly. You could do harm to others with an explosion.
I am not attacking. Trying to be helpful.

Oh yes, I got it.... Yes, I did my research and when I made my CTB attempt in Jan. I posted warning signs on doors, and am well aware that using C0 MUST be done in an isolated envoronment away from ignition sources or other living things to prevent collateral harm. As far as the charts... well shit..lol.

No but seriously, we are all on here on one of the most serious issues on earth so of course we are going to go in detail for detail... I dont mind....

As far as SA, yup read the handbook & think its just too much trouble, and not as peaceful.... Which is why I have decided on a combo of C0 & SN....

I am an attempt survivor, and my only mistake was not bolting my doors... I escaped in a blackout state of unconsciousness.... But I did weeks of research on C0... Got a ppm meter, inverter generator, turned off pilots..etc. My SI did me in... Luckily I had not taken in so much gas to have perm damage.... But if I had not woken up, it would have been perfectly peaceful... I drank an entire bottle of champange with some herbal sleeps to sedate me.... and I was out in minutes... but I woke up in my kitchen on the floor.... I was supposed to be in my bedroom. But the doors don't lock. It had not even occured to me that I could sleepwalk under the influnce of C0+alcohol... Anywayz.... yeah we are all in this together, but trust me, one of the reasons why Im still here is I want to make sure my next & final ctb attempt succeeds, but also poses no direct threats beyong the fact Ill be gone..

Huggzz

 

[sleepy dog]

Sleepwalking out of it! Goodness sakes that is so frustrating. Shocking too. I feel so bad for you. If you haven't done it yet, you can search here for SN goodbye threads. I read a few. Two said there was no pain, one said his chest was hot.

 

[Dawn0071111]

Sleepwalking out of it! Goodness sakes that is so frustrating. Shocking too. I feel so bad for you. If you haven't done it yet, you can search here for SN goodbye threads. I read a few. Two said there was no pain, one said his chest was hot.

Yeah, totally sucked. But Im keeping my resolve.... its scary, but must be done. Since I plan on doing both at same time.... I know Ill be good.... I have started to retraumatize myself on purpose to keep my death motivation high.... Sounds nuts right? But it works.. I have got to get out of here.... I have set a date.

 

[sleepy dog]

May I ask how you are retraumatizing yourself? I understand if you don't want to explain.

 

[Dawn0071111]

May I ask how you are retraumatizing yourself? I understand if you don't want to explain.

I watched the videos online of the club where I met my trauma guy last summer... My entire trauma & ending of life comes from the encounter from last summer... Ive decided not to recover but to the the entire thing sweep me away into oblivion. Now I see all I have to do is expose myself to my remaining PTSD triggers.... that will give me enough ammunition to carry through.... As the day draws close, will buy the bottle of lotion he massaged me with that in the beginning I avoided the damn ISLE in the store, I was so fucked up.... man... I cannot belive it has come to this..but I am nurturing the sense of acceptance.

 

[GoingSoonish]

I will be plastered on benzos during the period after ingestion and before unconsciousness. I'm hoping that this will make it completely or mostly painless for me.

 

[a.h]

Oh yes, I got it.... Yes, I did my research and when I made my CTB attempt in Jan. I posted warning signs on doors, and am well aware that using C0 MUST be done in an isolated envoronment away from ignition sources or other living things to prevent collateral harm. As far as the charts... well shit..lol.

No but seriously, we are all on here on one of the most serious issues on earth so of course we are going to go in detail for detail... I dont mind....

As far as SA, yup read the handbook & think its just too much trouble, and not as peaceful.... Which is why I have decided on a combo of C0 & SN....

I am an attempt survivor, and my only mistake was not bolting my doors... I escaped in a blackout state of unconsciousness.... But I did weeks of research on C0... Got a ppm meter, inverter generator, turned off pilots..etc. My SI did me in... Luckily I had not taken in so much gas to have perm damage.... But if I had not woken up, it would have been perfectly peaceful... I drank an entire bottle of champange with some herbal sleeps to sedate me.... and I was out in minutes... but I woke up in my kitchen on the floor.... I was supposed to be in my bedroom. But the doors don't lock. It had not even occured to me that I could sleepwalk under the influnce of C0+alcohol... Anywayz.... yeah we are all in this together, but trust me, one of the reasons why Im still here is I want to make sure my next & final ctb attempt succeeds, but also poses no direct threats beyong the fact Ill be gone..

Huggzz

How much CO you had in the room? It takes time to fill up a room to high level and generators are very loud. Do you have some kind of sound box for it? How long your generator works with the gasoline?

Most cars are about 3 cubic meters inside. By the test when the generator shuts off from lack of air (maybe 15-25min) it has used 3/4 of the gasoline.

While I tested the generator I got exposed to high levels of CO. I think it is pleasant in high levels and that is why accidents happen. It made me disoriented (not in bad way), euphoric, very, very sleepy. Actually it felt like when given drugs to fall asleep before minor surgery.
I believe that's why accidents happen and people don't open the door or call for help and die in cars and at home. In most cases there hasn't been 1% CO. Taking big breaths hurted for weeks but normal breathing didn't and I felt like having a flu being more tired. I have strong pain meds to my illness witch causes headaches. I didn't notice more headache though.

It made me wonder that are some charts of CO fake to make people not to use it to die. There are many negative symptoms for it in them. But by investigations many people die accidentally every year from about 400-10000 ppm of CO and none have any reason to call 911 or leave the place. No signs of distress either. Also carts don't tell how fast people fall asleep and become unconscious. If people had those negative side effects they would notice it and leave the room/car. Some sources do say it's a silent killer and people notice nothing before they die and that's why people should have alarms and check sources of it etc. Also a news of death by CO say it was peacefull and they didn't feel anything wrong before they died.

CO is seen as peacefull as Nembutal (when done right) to euthanize dogs and other animals. It's used in farm animals more too.

 

[Dawn0071111]

I was in a very tiny bedroom. And I bought an INVERTER portable generator. This is the smallest, quietest most expensive ones. I used a meter the room got to 1000ppm in like 6 minutes. I blacked out from C0, alcohol and sleeping herbs. But in the blackout state I escaped the room and ended up on my kitchen floor. My heart was fluttering and I panicked. Worse decision ever, I crawled out of the house and had someone call 911. My doors didn't lock, I had not even considered. I have learned that SI can kick in even in a blackout state.... So that's why I am going to try and do an exit bag instead..... But yeah, If I had not ever woken up would have been the perfect death, like falling asleep and never waking up again. I didn't feel anything until I came back to consciousness and it was dizzyness, and fluttering of my heart..... I must not have had more than 5-10 minutes of exposure tops. Inverter generators don't have c0 off switch and can run for 9 hours on Eco mode. I think the trick is to be so sedated that ones self induced sedation knocks you out before the C0 does, that way if there are any effects you don't experince them.... IMO the only downsides to this method are: The price of the generator $500--1000, the smell of the gas, it took forever to get out of my sheets, curtains and carpet, and you have to be alone..... nothing living nearby.... I just wish I could get pure c0 ....

 

[a.h]

Those are not even sold in some countries. The cost would be maybe ok but with the delivery cost maybe too much. I assumed all generators shut down when the CO level is really high and there is less air. But they start to slow down only when there is 12000-13000ppm of CO.
Many garages smell like gasoline already and cars are small and easy to fill and trunk makes the generators as quiet as car engine or even more so. I think that the smell is easier to get off from cars than clothes etc. Especially if the seats are covered.
Many cars get that rotten eggs smell when starting to uphill in cold weather and the stink leaves fast.

I think you would be gone if there had been more CO. I think that there should be at least 3000ppm of CO. The air is not bad then.

I was in a very tiny bedroom. And I bought an INVERTER portable generator. This is the smallest, quietest most expensive ones. I used a meter the room got to 1000ppm in like 6 minutes. I blacked out from C0, alcohol and sleeping herbs. But in the blackout state I escaped the room and ended up on my kitchen floor. My heart was fluttering and I panicked. Worse decision ever, I crawled out of the house and had someone call 911. My doors didn't lock, I had not even considered. I have learned that SI can kick in even in a blackout state.... So that's why I am going to try and do an exit bag instead..... But yeah, If I had not ever woken up would have been the perfect death, like falling asleep and never waking up again. I didn't feel anything until I came back to consciousness and it was dizzyness, and fluttering of my heart..... I must not have had more than 5-10 minutes of exposure tops. Inverter generators don't have c0 off switch and can run for 9 hours on Eco mode. I think the trick is to be so sedated that ones self induced sedation knocks you out before the C0 does, that way if there are any effects you don't experince them.... IMO the only downsides to this method are: The price of the generator $500--1000, the smell of the gas, it took forever to get out of my sheets, curtains and carpet, and you have to be alone..... nothing living nearby.... I just wish I could get pure c0 ....

Are you sure you can't buy tank of pure CO or almost pure in your country. Big companies sell them for welding without any districtions. In my country they are illegal to sell and get but in all neighbouring countries they are sold to anyone.