Partial hanging blah blah blah

[cowbain]

I think the point is that every person coming to this forum, physical pain and/ or mental pain, should be met with acceptance and compassion. Whether you have crps or heartbreak, whether you have cancer or PTSD. It is not fair to target people feeling fragile, whether you yourself are in pain or not.
Kindness and compassion and love are a practice that especially here, where people are already playing with the thought of taking the most drastic step known to humankind to end their pain, is incredibly important.
I understand that OP is in pain and suffering, but lashing out at others through two posts today, one invalidating a method and one invalidating a reason, is not okay. I don't think it lowers pain to lash out at other vulnerable people that, like her, came here for acceptance and understanding.

But it's hypocritical tho. You guys aren't showing compassion to her or her circumstances that led her to have this perspective. It's really a circle jerk in the comments for who can be the most noble person. She's not actively lashing out on anyone. No where in her posts did she say people were invalidated for feeling the way they feel, you guys just took a vent post without realizing the context and ran with it. What I was trying to say was that there's been people on here who were actually abusive that were met with more open arms, and it's not right. Learn to keep the same energy.

 

[SoupSnakes]

But it's hypocritical tho. You guys aren't showing compassion to her or her circumstances that led her to have this perspective. It's really a circle jerk in the comments for who can be the most noble person. She's not actively lashing out on anyone. No where in her posts did she say people were invalidated for feeling the way they feel, you guys just took a vent post without realizing the context and ran with it. What I was trying to say was that there's been people on here who were actually abusive that were met with more open arms, and it's not right. Learn to keep the same energy.

OP has posted many many times and has received a lot of care from members of the forum. All you have to do is look at her history or her profile messages. People have been very kind and understanding. It's very hard to do that when it's not returned and she posts something like this. It's a two way street.

 

[noctiva]

At no point did anybody invalidate her pain in any way, on the contrary. She is in massive pain, that is without any doubt and she receives sympathy from a lot of forum members here. But lashing out and invalidating others pain in return is not acceptable and hypocritical.
It is a two way street, acceptance and compassion for acceptance and compassion. And there needs to be a way to communicate this, in a kind and gentle way, which I believe has been done.

 

[Despairing]

But it's hypocritical tho. You guys aren't showing compassion to her or her circumstances that led her to have this perspective. It's really a circle jerk in the comments for who can be the most noble person. She's not actively lashing out on anyone. No where in her posts did she say people were invalidated for feeling the way they feel, you guys just took a vent post without realizing the context and ran with it. What I was trying to say was that there's been people on here who were actually abusive that were met with more open arms, and it's not right. Learn to keep the same energy.

Op posted " partial hanging blah blah blah" op here makes it sound so fucking easy dont they eh?

 

[Girobatol]

Why are people always shocked when a partial hanging doesn't work? Why not just hang yourself the real way? Sorry but this is every other post.

There was a video from an european guy who did partial, broadcasted it, and died. Made it look easy.

 

[WhiteDespair]

Looks like there needs to be a partial thread where everyone can discuss their successes and failures.

 

[cowbain]

OP has posted many many times and has received a lot of care from members of the forum. All you have to do is look at her history or her profile messages. People have been very kind and understanding. It's very hard to do that when it's not returned and she posts something like this. It's a two way street.

At no point did anybody invalidate her pain in any way, on the contrary. She is in massive pain, that is without any doubt and she receives sympathy from a lot of forum members here. But lashing out and invalidating others pain in return is not acceptable and hypocritical.
It is a two way street, acceptance and compassion for acceptance and compassion. And there needs to be a way to communicate this, in a kind and gentle way, which I believe has been done.

OP has been salty all day.

Op posted " partial hanging blah blah blah" op here makes it sound so fucking easy dont they eh?

So basically it comes down to selective outrage, okay got it. Op has also shown compassion and care to a lot of members on this forum as well. I don't think someone should be villainized for a vent post. No one on here asked her if she was okay or if something had happened. Everyone just sat on their high horse and took the self righteous way. Somewhere on this thread someone even said that this post should be deleted. Is someone who's not going through unimaginable pain 24/7 not allowed to vent like the rest of us? As long as they're not being extremely derogatory and going out of their way to say harmful things, I really don't see the issue. And I mentioned people who've said that away from the site they were abusive irl because it's just funny how I guess people don't care as long as it's not directed at them. The judgement and dismissal going on over this post is hilarious considering this is a place to hide away from those same things from pro lifers lol. Shit maybe all humans are just hypocritical and selfish in the end, you and me included.

 

[SinisterKid]

Lets keep it civil please.

 

[cowbain]

I mentioned OP was salty how am making him a villain ? I heard the white knight polish store is having a huge black Friday sale.

That part didn't apply to you, the dismissal part did. What you just said to me was more offensive and salty than op's post lol.

 

[WhiteDespair]

Some of us are just here for the show.

@cowbain, good speech.

 

[cowbain]

Changed my mind and deleted my post like 24 mins ago while you were searching for that picture.

If you want to get angry at me and try making little digs and assumptions, then cool. Unless you have something to constructive to say I'm not going to feed into it. I hope you can learn to be more understanding and compassionate to everyone, even people you disagree with.

 

[mycabbages]

Partial require more precision than full suspension, maybe thats why we see many failed partial attempts. And most people seem to be afraid of short drop full suspension, but to me it seems like the same principle as partial but with more likelihood of successful cbt.

 

[DepressionsAHo]

Why do people go on and on about Nembutal, when cyanide is better? I don't get this thread.

I dunno if you're being serious or sarcastic so I'll reply. But cyanide has been proposed on here a couple of times so I guess I'll just assume serious? Feel free to tell me if Im wrong though. No it's not. I never understood why people proposed cyanide. It's pure fucking agony

 

[Sweet emotion]

I think the point is that every person coming to this forum, physical pain and/ or mental pain, should be met with acceptance and compassion. Whether you have crps or heartbreak, whether you have cancer or PTSD. It is not fair to target people feeling fragile, whether you yourself are in pain or not.
Kindness and compassion and love are a practice that especially here, where people are already playing with the thought of taking the most drastic step known to humankind to end their pain, is incredibly important.
I understand that OP is in pain and suffering, but lashing out at others through two posts today, one invalidating a method and one invalidating a reason, is not okay. I don't think it lowers pain to lash out at other vulnerable people that, like her, came here for acceptance and understanding.

I came here to this site to find out from someone in the medical field, if I had enough drugs to kill myself with. That's what I thought this site was. I thought it was people helping others end their lives. I didn't think it was a place where people who don't want die but just want to come on and talk. I thought this was a serious suicide site since I read about the girl who got advice from this site killed herself and her mother wanted the site banned. I didn't come on here for compassion and understanding. I came on here to make sure I had enough drugs so that I'd be dead.

OP has posted many many times and has received a lot of care from members of the forum. All you have to do is look at her history or her profile messages. People have been very kind and understanding. It's very hard to do that when it's not returned and she posts something like this. It's a two way street.

I want you to ask anyone if I have been there for them. If I have been understanding. Because when I first got on this site and read everyone's problems I said to myself all I want to do is help people before I take my own life. I see that you're just looking at my posts and what others have posts to me but haven't read anything I've posted to other people. I know what I've contributed to people. I know the truth and that's all that matters to me so think what you want.

At no point did anybody invalidate her pain in any way, on the contrary. She is in massive pain, that is without any doubt and she receives sympathy from a lot of forum members here. But lashing out and invalidating others pain in return is not acceptable and hypocritical.
It is a two way street, acceptance and compassion for acceptance and compassion. And there needs to be a way to communicate this, in a kind and gentle way, which I believe has been done.

Where have I invalidated anyone's pain on this post? Where?

 

[morningdew]

Why are people always shocked when a partial hanging doesn't work? Why not just hang yourself the real way? Sorry but this is every other post.

Thanks for the laugh. I've been here long enough now to start to get just a little annoyed with some of the post as well. I get that you are just venting a bit.

 

[Whitewash11235814]

She means business. I like dat.

 

[Sweet emotion]

So basically it comes down to selective outrage, okay got it. Op has also shown compassion and care to a lot of members on this forum as well. I don't think someone should be villainized for a vent post. No one on here asked her if she was okay or if something had happened. Everyone just sat on their high horse and took the self righteous way. Somewhere on this thread someone even said that this post should be deleted. Is someone who's not going through unimaginable pain 24/7 not allowed to vent like the rest of us? As long as they're not being extremely derogatory and going out of their way to say harmful things, I really don't see the issue. And I mentioned people who've said that away from the site they were abusive irl because it's just funny how I guess people don't care as long as it's not directed at them. The judgement and dismissal going on over this post is hilarious considering this is a place to hide away from those same things from pro lifers lol. Shit maybe all humans are just hypocritical and selfish in the end, you and me included.

I want to thank you for saying that I've been there for people. Because l I have, endless times. I've stayed up until the sun came up talking with people. I've written novels to people. And yes, I'm not going to write about what I'm going through right now but I feel like I'm living in hell. It's ok if people are pissed off at me. I can understand why. But that's the way I felt at the time. Even with my other post which I still stand by. But people are putting words in my mouth saying I have no compassion for people with mental disorders or that I don't validate then. I have compassion for them. I mean Christ I'm depressed out of my mind. I want to thank you for not grabbing your pitchfork and torch and not coming to my castle to drag me off and burn me.

 

[SoupSnakes]

I want you to ask anyone if I have been there for them. If I have been understanding. Because when I first got on this site and read everyone's problems I said to myself all I want to do is help people before I take my own life. I see that you're just looking at my posts and what others have posts to me but haven't read anything I've posted to other people. I know what I've contributed to people. I know the truth and that's all that matters to me so think what you want.

Not once did I say that you haven't been understanding to others. Now you're putting your words in my mouth. It's obvious that there's a lot of support and love amongst all members, yourself included, I don't dispute that. What I am saying is that it's very hard to sympathise when you post shit like this. I'm sure it takes a lot for people to post things on this forum, many of those people are in a lot of pain and are just looking for someone to talk to.
This is becoming boring now, all the people who have replied are saying is maybe just consider before you post, vent post or not. I've had my say so won't be continuing this on.

 

[Heart of Ice]

I dunno if you're being serious or sarcastic so I'll reply. But cyanide has been proposed on here a couple of times so I guess I'll just assume serious? Feel free to tell me if Im wrong though. No it's not. I never understood why people proposed cyanide. It's pure fucking agony

I was being half serious.

I feel like I'm repeating myself but there are accounts of cyanide being a fairly peaceful death. And of course, there are accounts of it being violent. Either way, it's very fast. We don't really know what cyanide is like, as the people who took it usually didn't survive to tell the tale.

That being said, buying cyanide illegally could get you in to some trouble, so I probably wouldn't recommend it. Chemical suppliers sell it, but only to companies and laboratories, I'm afraid.

 

[SadFather]

It is that fkn sub conscious muthf&^%$# that makes this so hard. I am not sure you can program the sub conscious to agree to dying but I am gonna give it a go.