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Fathead70

Fathead70

Now you see me, Now you don’t
Dec 12, 2018
19
Those Fentanyl patches are enough to do it. I'm quite jealous you have them. They are 4.2 mg of Fentanyl each of you say they are 25 mcg/hr. If you were to put all of them on and use a hairdryer to accelerate the rate of absorption, or if you were to chew them all etc, the dose would be a whopping 42 mg or 4200 mcg. The science says significant respiratory depression can last for four hours in the average person after 600 mcg.
That's the plan. Use something to get them moving .
 
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Dead_Inside

Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
That is a hell of a tolerance ..... don't expect to OD. I am so sorry. I personally found that minor amounts of opiate useage translated to a large tolerance. But there is always physiology..... maybe through luck you will manage to OD.
I only took 10 mg a day and I stopped a while before I attempted my OD- used 250 mg and a shit ton of other stuff - and here I am.
 
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Fathead70

Now you see me, Now you don’t
Dec 12, 2018
19
That is a hell of a tolerance ..... don't expect to OD. I am so sorry. I personally found that minor amounts of opiate useage translated to a large tolerance. But there is always physiology..... maybe through luck you will manage to OD.
I only took 10 mg a day and I stopped a while before I attempted my OD- used 250 mg and a shit ton of other stuff - and here I am.
Well my hope is that I do not have that type of tolerance. I have that much available but I don't take much. Mostly just the patches during the month and a couple of days of blue 30's on refill day. I binge a little for a couple days then rest is gone. I actually do have severe pain but I can't stand to take those pills daily. So I have a few and few and that's it. Or if I forget to change my patch I have a couple when it gets too bad. But that much at one time with reglan for 3 days prior and Valium and whiskey. I wake up from that and I'm going to declare myself a GOD!!
 
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Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
Well my hope is that I do not have that type of tolerance. I have that much available but I don't take much. Mostly just the patches during the month and a couple of days of blue 30's on refill day. I binge a little for a couple days then rest is gone. I actually do have severe pain but I can't stand to take those pills daily. So I have a few and few and that's it. Or if I forget to change my patch I have a couple when it gets too bad. But that much at one time with reglan for 3 days prior and Valium and whiskey. I wake up from that and I'm going to declare myself a GOD!!
Ah- ok that makes sense. I have some chronic pain issues too and I don't take pills every day for it. Mostly just a night time thing- or I might use a few when I am sad and want a bit of a "soma holiday". So tolerance won't be as big of an issue as I first thought.
I didn't have any luck mixing my opiates into my suicide plan. But that doesn't mean too much- they were just an additional element not the main method. I have not tried an opiate only suicide because of the risk I would be found and narcan'd back to this hell hole.
My advice is always to save and save and save! It sucks. For you it might mean living in pain for more days than not. And of course the less you take leading up to the date the "better" your reaction will be to it. Hydrate, excerise and eat healthy. Sounds crazy right? But if you want to die, then get yourself healthy enough to properly metabolize those pills - you want a good metabolism for any pill thing. And consider crushing the pills - I regret not doing this for myself. Crush them all and put them into one of those empty pills you can buy at the health stores. More surface area equals faster absorption....and trust me swallowing 100s of pills is not fun or easy.
 
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MsM3talGamer

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Nov 28, 2018
1,504
I've stockpiled around 40 Oxys which are 20 mg each. I'm intolerant to them so will I need anti-emetics? Also, do I need alcohol to make my CTB more effective? Considering whether to add morphine to the mixture as well.
 
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Dead_Inside

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Jul 2, 2018
622
I've stockpiled around 40 Oxys which are 20 mg each. I'm intolerant to them so will I need anti-emetics? Also, do I need alcohol to make my CTB more effective? Considering whether to add morphine to the mixture as well.
Always include antiemetics. You could be using aspirin and you would still need antiemetics. You are killing your body- it can tell toxic levels of chemicals and you will throw up. Which is why, if you ever have the option injection is always best. You would still throw up but at least then you couldn't get rid of the drug.
No you don't need alcohol- but personally I would and have added multiple layers. The opiates are going to hit your central nervous system and reduce you ability to breath and beat your heart, and protect your air way.... alcohol does the same, as do TCAs and a fair number of antiemetics : ) .... and benzodiazepines..... so if you hate alcohol then no worries. Just add a little more of something else. But even the antiemetics are going to help you ctb.
 
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MsM3talGamer

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Always include antiemetics. You could be using aspirin and you would still need antiemetics. You are killing your body- it can tell toxic levels of chemicals and you will throw up. Which is why, if you ever have the option injection is always best. You would still throw up but at least then you couldn't get rid of the drug.
No you don't need alcohol- but personally I would and have added multiple layers. The opiates are going to hit your central nervous system and reduce you ability to breath and beat your heart, and protect your air way.... alcohol does the same, as do TCAs and a fair number of antiemetics : ) .... and benzodiazepines..... so if you hate alcohol then no worries. Just add a little more of something else. But even the antiemetics are going to help you ctb.
Many thanks for your advice. :) Injection isn't an option so I'll have to go on the anti-emetics regime. My lungs are pretty messed up so my breathing should be compromised quite quickly.
 
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Dead_Inside

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Jul 2, 2018
622
Many thanks for your advice. :) Injection isn't an option so I'll have to go on the anti-emetics regime. My lungs are pretty messed up so my breathing should be compromised quite quickly.
I couldn't do injections either so no worries- I am trying to figure out how to convert pills safely to something that can be safely injected with saline. But probably not a great method either way.....
Bad lung capacity huh? You are very fortunate in that regard.
Obviously any advice you get from the living here should be taken with a grain of salt.... but for what it's worth, don't worry. I felt no struggle to breath or any pain or discomfort in either attempt. My first was the best and was compromised by a "friend" and apparently my body was struggling to breath when they found me. Good luck : ) grab me up on your way out ok?
 
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kkatt

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Nov 12, 2018
967
I only take pills a couple times per month. Patch every 3 days . Those couple days I binge a little

Is this so hard to understand? Fentanyl is just another opiate,the same as the pills,except stronger. Much stronger.
Just because it it absorbed transdermally doesn't prevent a tolerance from building.
That's why you feel like shit when you forget to change your patch.

What's so awful about a different drug cocktail that is proven and will be more likely to be effective for you?
 
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C2theN

Nobody Dast Blame Me
Nov 25, 2018
28
Anyone have personal experience snorting H? I have the same shitty veins as Fathead70, and I see a lot of conflicting info on routes of administration. Is metoclopramide + Zofran really enough to prevent barfing up, say, 1g of Darknet H if I put it up the schnozz?

I keep changing my mind about methods, but I'm seriously leaning toward H now. I figure I shouldn't have any tolerance - I popped a few 5mg Oxys in Oct/Nov, no more than 40mg total, but that seems like it's nowhere near enough to cause problems with ctb.

I have backups: lots of SN, insulin pens, 6-8mg klonopin, Tagamet, a ton of clonidine and gabapentin, and a stiff fifth of Aquavit. Then again, maybe that much hardware would be a recipe for booting, even with the antiemetics?
 
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MsM3talGamer

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I couldn't do injections either so no worries- I am trying to figure out how to convert pills safely to something that can be safely injected with saline. But probably not a great method either way.....
Bad lung capacity huh? You are very fortunate in that regard.
Obviously any advice you get from the living here should be taken with a grain of salt.... but for what it's worth, don't worry. I felt no struggle to breath or any pain or discomfort in either attempt. My first was the best and was compromised by a "friend" and apparently my body was struggling to breath when they found me. Good luck : ) grab me up on your way out ok?
LOL. Thanks. :) Your username describes exactly how I feel. I'm relieved to hear that you didn't struggle when you attempted. Bad lungs as in I have tumours so it shouldn't take too long for the opioids to do their job.

Good luck to you too!
 
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Dead_Inside

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Jul 2, 2018
622
LOL. Thanks. :) Your username describes exactly how I feel. I'm relieved to hear that you didn't struggle when you attempted. Bad lungs as in I have tumours so it shouldn't take too long for the opioids to do their job.

Good luck to you too!
Same to you : ) there is peace even if you don't make it on the first attempt.... this little bit I can tell you from literal experience....there is peace in the long dead sleep that is an attempted OD.... the thing done correctly must be bliss- because I am something so much more depressed and devastated than "dead inside" now that I had a taste of it....
 
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Same to you : ) there is peace even if you don't make it on the first attempt.... this little bit I can tell you from literal experience....there is peace in the long dead sleep that is an attempted OD.... the thing done correctly must be bliss- because I am something so much more depressed and devastated than "dead inside" now that I had a taste of it....
Yup. I know exactly the devastated feeling inside that you've described.
 
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