Ofcom’s Investigation: Our Full Response and Position on UK Jurisdiction

[dweams]

I think they are mostly doing it because children and teenagers have access to this site. Tyler's Law in California is named after a teenager who went on SS and committed suicide using what he learned here o:

In all the articles I could find, I couldn't find any direct or indirect mention of SS. All I found was that Tyler Shamash had a history of drug addiction and Tyler's Law was only created because the ER failed to test for fentanyl in his system.

Can you link to a news article that mentions SS?

 

[Zhendou]

https://1819news.com/news/item/u-k-...legedly-created-by-huntsville-resident-report

Here is an article of the UK investigation of this website.

 

[GhostInTheMachine]

"believe he was influenced", "hold him responsible"

Funny how these clowns never ask what compelled these people to find this website to begin with. It couldn't possibly be that they're going through severe mental distress and that their home lives aren't providing the support necessary to bring them down from wanting to CTB. It's always these disingenuous "families" pretending as if everything was fine before "da evil suicide forum" came into their lives.


"a user announcing their decision to commit suicide by ingesting a poison. The post was met with many positive replies of encouragement."

Yes, because we actually believe in mercy you disgusting monkeys. Know what else we believe in? RECOVERY! However, that doesn't fit into the narrative of this place being some kind of suicide cult. The recovery section is also on the front page, and I GUARANTEE more people have decided not to CTB because of SaSu than otherwise. This might be crazy to understand, but most suicidal people DON'T want to commit suicide. They just want their pain to end, but our world does not offer the necessary reliefs to do this with. Want people to stop CTB? FIX THIS GARBAGE PLANET THEN!


"call 988 for assistance and support in a mental health crisis."

If these "journalists" actually did any real investigative work, they'd quickly find how many people here HAVE reached out to these "support" services, among other support networks, and those FAILED them. It's NPC answering machine bullshit, but none of them want to face the hard truth that life is fucking awful for a lot of us, and "there's hope" doesn't mean shit if there isn't any actual material improvements in our lives. For the worst off, there simply is no way to materially improve their conditions, so suicide is a mercy.

I'm going to start calling these drones "anti-mercy", because ultimately that's what they're fighting against. They don't care about the "preciousness" or "sanctity" of life, because they're more than willing to make a life suffer because it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy for "helping". None of them want to admit that sometimes letting somebody just die IS helping. We already make exceptions for some people who are terminally ill, but of course those cases are usually physical conditions and since nobody likes admitting that mental health is just as important as the physical, society continues on acting as if mental conditions just don't qualify for mercy.

Biggest irony is this is being led by TERF Island where they don't give a flying fuck about the trans kids killing themselves because of the government policies stripping them of their healthcare. How dare we not want to suffer right?

 

[dweams]

I think they are mostly doing it because children and teenagers have access to this site. Tyler's Law in California is named after a teenager who went on SS and committed suicide using what he learned here o:

In all the articles I could find, I couldn't find any direct or indirect mention of SS. All I found was that Tyler Shamash had a history of drug addiction and Tyler's Law was only created because the ER failed to test for fentanyl in his system.

Can you link to a news article that mentions SS?

After doing some more research, I discovered that there's apparently two different versions of Tyler's Law. One is about fentanyl testing and the other is about the sale of SN. Sorry for doubting you. I just like to do fact checks.

Here's the one about fentanyl testing: https://www.padilla.senate.gov/news...partisan-tylers-law-to-fight-fentanyl-crisis/

Here's the one about the sale of SN: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1109/id/2844669

 

[aiyuxhan]

After doing some more research, I discovered that there's apparently two different versions of Tyler's Law. One is about fentanyl testing and the other is about the sale of SN. Sorry for doubting you. I just like to do fact checks.

Here's the one about fentanyl testing: https://www.padilla.senate.gov/news...partisan-tylers-law-to-fight-fentanyl-crisis/

Here's the one about the sale of SN: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1109/id/2844669

No worries about the doubting! I'm glad you found the source I came across o;

Here's a video from 2 months ago about Washington's version of Tyler's Law:

 

[TheBroken]

Any members brave enough to push back at the BBC news level can email their thoughts about the OFCOM overreach and SS in general to:

[email protected]

 

[milkcarton]

I was away for two weeks and this is the first thing I see. Unfortunately I am bad place moneywise and cannot donate. I guess this one of those political "look what we are doing to prevent suicides", while cutting funding from mental health care. Many of those who have ended their lives, would have done so regardless, but I think many more have actually been saved by this site. It's the only place I have been able to talk freely about suicide, my situation and feelings and I'm in a much better place because of it. I've looked at old threads as well and have not seen any encouragement. Of course I don't know what happens in private chats except for my own. I would imagine though that they are unable to do anything, it is a US based site and the most they can do is block accesss. I can relate to parents but this not the correct way to fight preventable suicides, more funding for mental health care as well as proper care that isn't just hospital or nothing as well easier access to resources would do a lot better.

 

[heatdeath]

Funny how these clowns never ask what compelled these people to find this website to begin with. It couldn't possibly be that they're going through severe mental distress and that their home lives aren't providing the support necessary to bring them down from wanting to CTB. It's always these disingenuous "families" pretending as if everything was fine before "da evil suicide forum" came into their lives.

Very well said.

God forbid parents get off their ass and do the job they signed up for.

Reminds me of when parents used to blame everything on video games, Marilyn Manson, etc. back in the day. Blame everything; taking responsibility was at the bottom of the list.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Blame everything; taking responsibility was at the bottom of the list.

It's not even written on the list.

 

[tiredash]

They are a bunch of massive hypocrites and assholes. They say this site harms people, when its them that failed to help people. If they did their job, the number of UK citizens visiting this site would be literally zero.

ASSHOLES

 

[LoveandCerulean]

They never want to address the problems that drive people to want to leave the f'd up world they created. They only ever want to police the one thing we can control while continuing to do nothing else. It's a purely self-serving act meant to ease their own conscience.

My death was extremely preventable. I just needed someone to intervene and advocate for me because I was physically incapable of doing so by myself. I exhausted all of my energy desperately trying to get help, but everyone just sat there and did nothing. They just let the [motivating factor] happen to me. Now my life is unnecessarily ruined and I carry trauma that I shouldn't have to carry.

I was ignored, dehumanized and abandoned by both institutions and people alike, so it sends me whenever a blue moon comes and these big wigs flock to perform their ritual moral posturing—pretending that they actually care about people. Your country makes living and healthcare unaffordable and injustice is tolerated so long as the people doing the injustice have some sort of power. Are you really surprised that normal human beings can't endure such quality of life?

People who want to die will find a way to do so no matter what. Policing the only community they have to discuss the topic is not only nonsensical, but counterintuitive to their so-called "mission" since research shows that a supportive community decreases suicide rates…thus bringing me back to my original point: They don't actually care about people. They're just doing this to feign morality and ease their own conscience.

 

[ScarletTanager]

Great points in so many posts, but remember, bloodshed has always started wars and retaliation. People and eventually governments will notice and get involved. Opinions can vary but that's just the way the world operates.

 

[SuckyCuckyDuck]

These creeps in the government are pure evil . the UK government trying to ban this website shows where the monsters in the government first priorities are . keeping the slaves in the prison and taking away the right to move away from suffering.

the most important right is the right to move away from suffering. so the government creeps decide to first target the only site that offers info on how to move away from suffering or pain.

if someone is suffering extremely or about to be in extreme torture of course they should be allowed to move away from extreme suffering .

what kind of monster would deny a person that is suffering extremely or in unbearable pain relief or to move away from such pain? these monsters and why they are monsters.

there are millions of people suffering . these monsters are taking away the right to escape extreme suffering so they are the torturers . they are the ultimate evil.

they are trying to take away the only place that has information for how to move away from extreme suffering this site.

out of all the billions of websites in the world the evil cretins decide to use the full power of the UK government to try to ban the only website that allows discussion of methods and of suicide

also is the right to leave , to escape when you want to . if you can't leave a place you are a slave and a prisoner. . so this shows where their first priorities are . eliminate the right to move away from suffering. 2. lock the door to the prison making this world a worse prison. 3. take away individual right to choose. make everyone more of a slave. 4. control . 5 censorship. all the worst evil .

it's good sasu are not backing down to the tyrants. never surrender

notice that government creeps also made every guaranteed suicide method a crime like someone helping you with suicide , suicide booths ( liker Sarco) , Nembutal etc.

they are the ultimate evil they are the torturers.

it's ridiculous . these government UK tyrants want to tell a private owner of a website in the U.S. what they are allowed to post on a website . and they are trying to get sasu banned..

these are more reasons for me to kill myself asap. there is no guaranteed easy painless quick way out of life or this world. that this evil is rampant . that they made the world into a worse prison.

it's completely illogical. we all will die anyway but they say it's ok to prolong people suffering .

and i haven't posted all i found. i haven't on this site.

Pro-suicide website to be investigated by Ofcom under its new powers

The site reportedly has tens of thousands of members with users discussing methods of suicide, sharing information about how to use a toxic chemical.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Exactly. We've this one place for people like us yet these shitloads desire to shut this down. I wish I could donate to this site, we won't give up. Imagine being forced into existence without consent and your only way to quit, regardless of how painful it might be, is downplayed. We'd probably endure much more pain existing than otherwise.

 

[TheBroken]

They never want to address the problems that drive people to want to leave the f'd up world they created. They only ever want to police the one thing we can control while continuing to do nothing else. It's a purely self-serving act meant to ease their own conscience.

My death was extremely preventable. I just needed someone to intervene and advocate for me because I was physically incapable of doing so by myself. I exhausted all of my energy desperately trying to get help, but everyone just sat there and did nothing. They just let the [motivating factor] happen to me. Now my life is unnecessarily ruined and I carry trauma that I shouldn't have to carry.

I was ignored, dehumanized and abandoned by both institutions and people alike, so it sends me whenever a blue moon comes and these big wigs flock to perform their ritual moral posturing—pretending that they actually care about people. Your country makes living and healthcare unaffordable and injustice is tolerated so long as the people doing the injustice have some sort of power. Are you really surprised that normal human beings can't endure such quality of life?

People who want to die will find a way to do so no matter what. Policing the only community they have to discuss the topic is not only nonsensical, but counterintuitive to their so-called "mission" since research shows that a supportive community decreases suicide rates…thus bringing me back to my original point: They don't actually care about people. They're just doing this to feign morality and ease their own conscience.

I was also was ignored, dehumanized and abandoned by both institutions and people alike. Completely understand being a garbage human.