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Opinion
Why Are Young Americans Killing Themselves?

Suicide is now their second-leading cause of death.

By Richard A. Friedman

Dr. Friedman is a psychiatrist.

Jan. 6, 2020

Teenagers and young adults in the United States are being ravaged by a mental health crisis — and we are doing nothing about it. As of 2017, statistics show that an alarming number of them are suffering from depression and dying by suicide. In fact, suicide is now the second leading cause of death among young people, surpassed only by accidents.

After declining for nearly two decades, the suicide rate among Americans ages 10 to 24 jumped 56 percent between 2007 and 2017, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And for the first time the gender gap in suicide has narrowed: Though the numbers of suicides are greater in males, the rates of suicide for female youths increased by 12.7 percent each year, compared with 7.1 percent for male youths.

At the same time, the rate of teen depression shot up 63 percent, an alarming but not surprising trend given the link between suicide and depression: In 2017, 13 percent of teens reported at least one episode of depression in the past year, compared with 8 percent of teens in 2007, according to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

How is it possible that so many of our young people are suffering from depression and killing themselves when we know perfectly well how to treat this illness? If thousands of teens were dying from a new infectious disease or a heart ailment, there would be a public outcry and a national call to action.

While young people are generally physically healthy, they are psychiatrically vulnerable. Three-quarters of all the mental illness that we see in adults has already occurred by age 25. Our collective failure to act in the face of this epidemic is all the more puzzling since we are living at a time when people are generally more accepting of mental illness and stigma is on the wane.

You'd think it would be no big deal to see your family doctor or a therapist and get your depression treated like any other medical problem. But the data suggest otherwise: Only 45 percent of teenage girls who had an episode of depression in 2019 received any treatment, and just 33 percent of teenage boys with depression did. In contrast, two-thirds of adults with a recent episode of depression received treatment.

What explains the epidemic of teen depression and suicide? There are lots of theories but few definitive answers.

Some researchers emphasize the potential role of social media exposure and use of smartphones. There is some evidence that girls, who have shown greater rates of increase in depression than boys, experience more cyberbullying because of their greater use of mobile phones and texting. But most studies of digital technology and mental health are correlational and can't prove causation.

Drugs and alcohol are always a popular culprit, but in this case they are an unlikely explanation, as the studies cited above controlled for drug use. In addition, there is no evidence of a significant increase in the use of drugs or alcohol in young people during the study period.

It is legitimate (though controversial) to ask whether the Food and Drug Administration's "black box" warning for antidepressants back in 2004 — which said the drugs could cause suicidal thoughts and actions in some children and teenagers — discouraged the use of these drugs and unwittingly helped fuel the rise in teen depression. Within two years of the F.D.A. advisory, antidepressant use dropped by 31 percent in teens and 24 percent in young adults. Although antidepressant use recovered somewhat after 2008, it has remained below levels that would have been expected based on prescribing patterns before the warnings appeared.

The good news is that we don't have to wait for all the answers to know what to do. We know that various psychotherapies and medication are highly effective in treating depression. We just need to do a better job of identifying, reaching out to and providing resources for at-risk youths.

To start, we need a major public campaign to educate parents and teachers to recognize depression in young people and to learn about the warning signs of suicide — like a sudden change in behavior, talking or writing about suicide, and giving away prized possessions. We should have universal screening of teenagers at school, with parental consent, to identify those who are suffering from depression and who are at risk of suicide. And we have to provide adequate funding and resources to match the mental health needs of our young people.

Every day, 16 young people die from suicide. What are we waiting for?

[If you are having thoughts of suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 (TALK) or go to SpeakingOfSuicide.com/resources for a list of additional resources.]

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Richard A. Friedman is a professor of clinical psychiatry and the director of the psychopharmacology clinic at the Weill Cornell Medical College, and a contributing opinion writer.
 
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They've created this environment now they wonder why this is happening? You can't point your finger at any one thing and say "look this is why!" It's a myriad of reasons which could be discussed for many hours on end.

Some of the reasons are obvious like increased SSRI use which clearly labels suicidal and homicidal tendencies as a side effect. Social media, decreased marriage rates in the hookup culture, increased divorce rates in parents, increased student loan debt, increased mental disorder rates, increased incarceration, lack of GOOD jobs (not McJobs), low quality housing, and on and on and on.
 
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"drugs and alcohol are always a culprit" - people don't just become addicted out of nowhere, cause vs correlation issue here for me
 
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JustVisiting

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They've created this environment now they wonder why this is happening? You can't point your finger at any one thing and say "look this is why!" It's a myriad of reasons which could be discussed for many hours on end.

Some of the reasons are obvious like increased SSRI use which clearly labels suicidal and homicidal tendencies as a side effect. Social media, decreased marriage rates in the hookup culture, increased divorce rates in parents, increased student loan debt, increased mental disorder rates, increased incarceration, lack of GOOD jobs (not McJobs), low quality housing, and on and on and on.
yep. totally accurate. and i have a teen. but look closer and at this forum - it's all ages; globally.
 
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Intelligent Ape

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A psychiatrist explain to us that we need more psychotherapies (and I suppose more psychiatrists) and medication. Ok.
 
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nonamegirl

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Articles like this makes me wanna puke, cry and/or laugh.

How stupid are people allowed to be??!!

I can tell you right now how to diminish this number: focus WAY MORE money and time on research into better treatments for mental illness, which will bring REAL quality of life back to a lot of people. There.......it's that simple! to qoute Andrew Solomon: "The treatments we have for depression today are appaling, their not very effective, their extremely costly, they come with numerable side effects, their a DISASTER" THAT IS why people are killing themselves and until somebody comes up with better treatments, I can GUARANTEE that the suicides are gonna keep happening at the same rate, maybe even increasing.

F****** retards who are behind this article!
 
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BipolarExpat

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How is it possible that so many of our young people are suffering from depression and killing themselves when we know perfectly well how to treat this illness?

FFS! That's me done reading.


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-Nothing negative (EVER) directed towards Soul :heart:
 
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We live in such a bleak world and people do not give teens the credit they deserve. Kids aren't stupid or naive, they may make rash decisions but look at the state of affairs around the planet.
Can you really blame them?
 
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chris8000

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Depression isn't very similar to an infectious disease at all.

Lots of people with depression is a symptom of a much deeper problem with that society.

The fact he says we know how to treat it 'perfectly' well, suggests he is up himself, like a lot of academics are. These people don't want to think they may be part of the problem.

Neither am I convinced their medications are 'highly effective' at treating depression.
 
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Psychiatry's function in today's society is the same as the Church's in bygone era's: keep the suffering in line and quiet. All their drugs, hospitals and treatment programs and it hasn't put a dent in the supposed epidemic of these mysterious 'mental illnesses'... Are these people really all incompetent or could it be that psychiatry simply is a completely ineffective undertaking masquerading as medicine?

That he has the gall to claim 'more treatment' is necessary when there simply aren't any effective medical treatments for these problems is nothing short of mind-boggling.

Hot tip: focus on what people are actually suffering from and fix that. It's no use wasting money on pseudo-medicine and sponsoring the lush lifestyle of self-appointed pseudo-experts. At best these people actually listen to their 'clients' and 'patients' (both terms refer to a subservient role btw), make them feel understood and act as teachers, role-models and mentors. All of these things require patience, wisdom, life experience and kindness not a specific degree let alone a medical one.

If people are poor help them find a job, offer them training programs, temporary housing untill they can get back on their feet. If they have emotional issues talk to them and help them connect to others. Sure there are many problems which cannot be fixed (for those legalizing humane suicide and euthanasia is the solution) but the way this society is blaming and maltreating innocent people whose only crime is that they are suffering is appalling.

Only in the very worst cases should people be given drugs, as a last-ditch effort, if and only if they themselves ask for it. Any competent MD can prescribe antidepressants, antipsychotics and the like and do follow-ups on the patient. What can psychiatrists do that even ordinary GP's cannot? Wherein does their 'expertise' rest, pray?
 
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Depression isn't very similar to an infectious disease at all.

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Neither am I convinced their medications are 'highly effective' at treating depression.
I so agree. I think there's no cure for depression.
 
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BipolarExpat

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Are these people really all incompetent or could it be that psychiatry simply is a completely ineffective undertaking masquerading as medicine?

Jean, I know you're a very well read, intelligent and insightful person, so this angle (I think I used after another quote of yours some months ago) may be slightly sophomoric but...

Yes. It's my understanding that before the mythical terms "chemical imbalance" were so (brilliantly by Big Pharma) placed onto the lips and into the minds of the public, shrinks were often scoffed at (sometimes openly) by a majority of MDs and the like.

Afterwards,....well shrinks had A LOT of work to do


 
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nonamegirl

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Anybody thinking of leaving a comment on this Richard' twitter? I was thinking about it - we gotta let him know how wrong he is.
 
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Nnana

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I think young people these days are less religious than ever. The fear of going to hell is what kept a lot hanging around.
 
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Jean, I know you're a very well read, intelligent and insightful person, so this angle (I think I used after another quote of yours some months ago) may be slightly sophomoric but...

Yes. It's my understanding that before the mythical terms "chemical imbalance" were so (brilliantly by Big Pharma) placed onto the lips and into the minds of the public, shrinks were often scoffed at (sometimes openly) by a majority of MDs and the like.

Afterwards,....well shrinks had A LOT of work to do



Thank you for the compliment. The myth of the chemical imbalance is still prevalent today even after being thoroughly discredited. It's an outrage at least some some psychiatrists still use it to deceive their patients.

I still wonder what the scientific basis of psychiatry and psychopathology might be. Except for persistent hallucinations and the like as a consequence of using psychoactive drugs they don't know anything about the pathophysiology of the diseases they claim are their speciality (to my knowledge at least) and all they have are theories, statistical correlations and lists of symptoms... You'd think modern medicine was done with collecting mere descriptions of symptoms (which is true for pretty much all other medical specialties) yet in psychiatry it's the norm.

My conclusion is that these people have no real, objective understanding of what they claim or rather pretend to treat which makes them in effect mere drug pushers, not medical doctors.
 
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@Soul Interesting article and I do want to say that yes, social media and smartphones as well as other social issues. The psychiatrist of course, doesn't want to talk about solving the root issues, but rather the symptoms, taking about wanting to prevent suicide and instill 'life' rather than fixing the causes that lead people to become depressed and want to die. Also, yes the awful obligatory suicide hotline number at the end of the article. :eh:

@Brick In The Wall Well said. These psychiatrists in the industry are just capitalizing on people's miseries and exploiting the most vulnerable. It's almost like they want this to happen in order for their industry to thrive, it's quite disgusting and inhumane.

@BipolarExpat Yes, this 'chemical imbalance' stuff is a load of bullshit. That isn't to say there aren't people with (legitimate) chemical imbalances and actually need real help. I just find that it is thrown around too frequently and without thinking. The other erroneous application of the claim of chemical imbalance is that it is used to argue that someone is depressed due to chemical imbalance instead of life circumstances.

@Jean Améry well said about how psychiatry is still pseudoscience, meaning there is no concrete evidence like hard sciences (geology, biology, chemistry, physics) in which things are measured. A lot of the theories and hypotheses are just derived from many assumptions with no objective proof. I won't say that everything in psychiatry is bullshit, but a good amount of it is. The worst thing is that people use it to legitimize their claims and use it as facts.
 
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I so agree. I think there's no cure for depression.

There's not a pharmaceutical cure like an infectious disease, but I do think if you remove the cause of the depression it can be resolved. This can be done using therapy (CBT, mindfulness) or just changing lifestyle somehow. If you fix the cause then it can go away as Jean Amery seems to be getting at below.

Hot tip: focus on what people are actually suffering from and fix that. It's no use wasting money on pseudo-medicine and sponsoring the lush lifestyle of self-

Like if you lose your job and are unemployed for a year and feel depressed because of not doing much, then get another job, then over time you eventually recover because your depression was caused by lack of employment.

My long term partner left me when I was 21, I was devestated and suicidal for quite some time, I would call this depression because it lasted for ages and nothing was enjoyable and my mood was always low. I used mindfulness to get out of this, eventually, and it didn't come back.

There are certainly some more serious cases, where therapies and other changes do not work, but fundamentally I think many people can fully recover from it providing the right steps are taken. It is not hard wired into the genes like some other diseases, although there is some moderate genetic heritability and risk, that doesn't mean people cannot get fully out of it. This is just my limited understanding of it.
 
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This is so dumb .

Instead of addressing many causes -- super-stressed society offering a dead end for many , not much healthcare or accessible therapy -- another psychiatrist suggest "treating depression" .

I know treatment helps some , and for others depression is rooted , but FFS some basic awareness ... Where are the statistics about what intensifies and spirals depression . Oh , forgotten .
 
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IMHO ...... it's the general loss of ...... HOPE ...... parents, teachers, schools, kids, everyone is losing the will to care and also know the world is winding down not up; therefore, working towards a traditional Ozzie and Harriet life is becoming increasingly impossible. Why should a kid care, the people in his/her world barely care and what it will take for him/her to get ahead or live a decent life is a huge educational, financial, and social cliff to scale.
 
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The world today is terrible. Why do you want to live in a world where you become expendable in the working world where you have little in the ways of benefits? If you aren't some super genius, incredibly skilled worker, or creative mastermind you have to work a miserable job 8 hours a day and have to live paycheck to paycheck to scrape by. Do that for 30 or 40 more years and then retire with the little money you've saved up.
 
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"How is it possible that so many of our young people are suffering from depression and killing themselves when we know perfectly well how to treat this illness?"

Funniest joke of 2020 already.
 
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It is legitimate (though controversial) to ask whether the Food and Drug Administration's "black box" warning for antidepressants back in 2004 — which said the drugs could cause suicidal thoughts and actions in some children and teenagers — discouraged the use of these drugs and unwittingly helped fuel the rise in teen depression. Within two years of the F.D.A. advisory, antidepressant use dropped by 31 percent in teens and 24 percent in young adults. Although antidepressant use recovered somewhat after 2008, it has remained below levels that would have been expected based on prescribing patterns before the warnings appeared.

As someone who has actually experienced the onset of severe depression and intense suicidal ideation almost instantly from trying a new drug, i don't blame folks for being hesitant about this.

It is like flipping a light switch, and if you aren't given any warning suddenly you just feel like you want to cease existing in a way that is not reasonable or rational.
 
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