Nothing is real

[Lisa]

Have you ever been so depressed that you feel like the reality around you doesn't feel real at all, like you're just existing in this never ending simulation of pain and hopelessness?

Definitely. It is my belief actually. This is not our true reality. It is like a simulation. This is the direction modern physics is taking us now as well.

 

[Alan James]

Definitely. It is my belief actually. This is not our true reality. It is like a simulation. This is the direction modern physics is taking us now as well.

I also have a hypothesis that what is called "human consciousness" is a computer program, software. Maybe all these religions and all this "spiritual" nonsense is just a description by ancient people of very developed technologies.

Arthur C. Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Yep... to no end. At this point, while I'm still alive. I'm focusing on ways to "wake up". I've been spending nights meditating, trying to completely detach myself from this world and entering a state of pure awareness. That way, the second I achieve that state, I could just think strongly about something I wish to experience... and GO THERE, I was actually getting closer and closer to achieving it. My bodily sensations ceased into a vibrational hearing. My ears started ringing so loudly that it blocked out sound, even music that I was playing. And there was a distinct type of smell that came out of no where.

My psychology teacher once told me that reality is nothing but a construct of your own mind, much like a dream. A very solidified dream, so to speak.

 

[Lisa]

I also have a hypothesis that what is called "human consciousness" is a computer program, software. Maybe all these religions and all this "spiritual" nonsense is just a description by ancient people of very developed technologies.

Arthur C. Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Agreed

We know very little of what is really going on

Yep... to no end. At this point, while I'm still alive. I'm focusing on ways to "wake up". I've been spending nights meditating, trying to completely detach myself from this world and entering a state of pure awareness. That way, the second I achieve that state, I could just think strongly about something I wish to experience... and GO THERE, I was actually getting closer and closer to achieving it. My bodily sensations ceased into a vibrational hearing. My ears started ringing so loudly that it blocked out sound, even music that I was playing. And there was a distinct type of smell that came out of no where.

My psychology teacher once told me that reality is nothing but a construct of your own mind, much like a dream. A very solidified dream, so to speak.

Now you guys are getting me going.

Ok so from the age of 10 until I was about 25 I would go out of body without even trying. During my teens it happened thousands of times. I would go out but I didbt see anything else I just would zoom out of this like a microscope would and all of a sudden my other self would be telling me that is not real. Don't get too caught up in that it's not real. And I would think of course I know that this other experience is my reality not over there (over there meaning this life I'm currently living). Once I would say that I would pop back here and I would realize that wow no wonder I got confused this place here seems very real when you're here. Then I would pop back to the real reality and this would keep going for a few minutes it would happen almost every day

 

[ExitTheDay]

Agreed

We know very little of what is really going on

Now you guys are getting me going.

Ok so from the age of 10 until I was about 25 I would go out of body without even trying. During my teens it happened thousands of times. I would go out but I didbt see anything else I just would zoom out of this like a microscope would and all of a sudden my other self would be telling me that is not real. Don't get too caught up in that it's not real. And I would think of course I know that this other experience is my reality not over there (over there meaning this life I'm currently living). Once I would say that I would pop back here and I would realize that wow no wonder I got confused this place here seems very real when you're here. Then I would pop back to the real reality and this would keep going for a few minutes it would happen almost every day

Wow that actually sounds very terrifying, I'm glad this no longer happens to you, I've had a few friends who had in & out of body experiences without even trying, taking drugs etc... and it would only happen to them when they were alone or laying down, in this the case for you?

 

[Strumgewehr]

Yea definitely, dissociation is really hard to deal with, luckily it got better since I got sober but when I was abusing psychedelics and withdrawing it was unreal.
I still get visual snow and drift whenever I get stressed or really tired.
Feels like you're watching everything happening from behind your eyes as an observer, life just passes by and all that you can do is try to survive and not fuck it up even more/disappoint people.
I'm doing so much better and I still wanna die, sometimes I think we're just fucked and it won't ever get better.

I want to try psychdelics any advice?

 

[MartEU]

I want to try psychdelics any advice?

I would advice against it if you are in a bad place, trips are influenced a lot by emotion and how you are doing in general.
Bad trips, when they happen, are no joke, I've had friends end up psychotic because of misusing psychedelics.

If you really wanna try it tho, can I ask why you are interested in them?

 

[ExitTheDay]

I would advice against it if you are in a bad place, trips are influenced a lot by emotion and how you are doing in general.
Bad trips, when they happen, are no joke, I've had friends end up psychotic because of misusing psychedelics.

If you really wanna try it tho, can I ask why you are interested in them?

this right here, also make sure you are in a place you are familiar and comfortable with, as I learned my lesson the hard way about that, another key thing about taking psychedelics is you should have a trip-sitter you know and trust with your life because if you dont you may do something stupid and want someone there to prevent you from doing so, good luck

 

[tomz323]

"Nothing is real?" maybe, I do find most of the world fake as fuck, if that counts.

 

[The Whale]

The reality is something that triggers me. I'm used to believe that death is the only real thing, that love, life, friends were unreal things. But once death happens, everything is over. It's not the reality I want to live in. For that, I wish I've never been born in that weird dream called life... which makes me want to CTB.

 

[200_ponies]

I'm so relieved to find this thread. I've been feeling the same way for months now, especially when I'm alone. It seems like once all the distractions are removed, the walls of reality start to crumble. I've had some psychotic-like symptoms recently, too. Some extremely real-feeling hallucinations (visual and olfactory).

I'm sorry for everyone else here who feels the same, but I'm somewhat glad I'm not alone.

 

[TearyEyedQueen]

No joke, when I'm so depressed that I only stare in the distance, everything seems pixellated.
When I couldn't cope with stress in high school I'd tell myself: "It's okay. It's just a memory."
Who knows, maybe this very moment is just one of my memories and in reality I'm a 90-year old on her deathbed.

 

[Mizzmini45]

life started to feel more like a dream then reality

 

[Manja]

My psychology teacher once told me that reality is nothing but a construct of your own mind, much like a dream. A very solidified dream, so to speak.

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That's what eastern gurus say...they also say when someone is ready to wake up from this dream they become suicidal...they advise instead of killing yourself you should start watching your mind, your thoughts, and slowly disidentify from it.
I'm trying to do that but I think I'm too deep into this nightmare

 

[xxlily]

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That's what eastern gurus say...they also say when someone is ready to wake up from this dream they become suicidal...they advise instead of killing yourself you should start watching your mind, your thoughts, and slowly disidentify from it.
I'm trying to do that but I think I'm too deep into this nightmare

Once dedicated a few month doing that. For me it helped me through the worst time after an attempt where I had to live like nothing happened, but it's really hard. Especially when you feel like you didn't do it properly and now you are falling behind. Don't stress yourself too much, it's not a competition at all. The book The Ultimate Medicine by Nisargadatta Maharaj is worth checking out.

 

[Manja]

I don't have few months...I have days. But they say a moment is enough

 

[Apathy79]

One starting point is to try to stop thinking and see how long it lasts. The subsequent realisation that you have no control over whether you think or not allows you to dissociate from personal identity with the thoughts. When they are just random thoughts and no longer "my" thoughts, they suddenly seem far less important. When you no longer identify with the thoughts, it's a small step to no longer identifying with the body.

It sounds simple in theory. In practice, it's almost impossible. But every step brings its own rewards.

 

[Manja]

I don't know, they say do not try to stop thinking just observe thoughts passing without involvement with content...
But if they're not my thoughts who's are they then

 

[Apathy79]

I don't know, they say do not try to stop thinking just observe thoughts passing without involvement with content...
But if they're not my thoughts who's are they then

Yeah well you quickly realise trying to stop thinking is a fool's errand. It can't be done. Which helps with the dissociation. If I can't control whether I think or not, how can they be my thoughts? That's just an introductory exercise. The next step as you say is observation of the thoughts and identification with the observer of thoughts (and happenings) rather than the experiencer.

 

[Manja]

When I try to observe my mind I feel so sorry for it like it's some orphan child and I just can't disidentify, it's like it's begging me not to kill it by making it disappear lol

 

[Apathy79]

When I try to observe my mind I feel so sorry for it like it's some orphan child and I just can't disidentify, it's like it's begging me not to kill it by making it disappear lol

I hear ya. As much as I can talk about it, I haven't succeeded in disidentifying with it, despite numerous attempts. I guess that's why enlightenment is so rare. But it's a fun distraction if nothing else.

 

[Manja]

I guess I'll try in next life than...this one is too fucked to continue...
Good luck to you...maybe you should just leave it, trying is minds area

 

[Moonicide]

Absolutely. Even now I'm questioning my life... I keep hoping I'll wake up one day and find out this was all just a very bad dream.
But deep down, I know it's not.

 

[CyanideSoup]

I've felt like this for a while. I feel like I'm trapped inside a simulation and being tortured. The doctors say that none of it is real and im having a psychotic episode. They've put me on new medication to try and help. But I think they're wrong.

 

[Taki]

I often look in the mirror and can't believe that's me. When I'm in a group of people I often suspect that they're actors or robots.

I remember a time several months when I was really in bad shape (that is, especially aware of how terrible my future is), and I looked in the mirror and thought I was facing someone who'd broken into my house.

 

[mathieu]

Yes, I have also literally believed that everything is fake, like a computer game/simulation and if I die I will wake up in the true reality. I no longer believe that, though.

 

[SuicidalSymphonies]

After a hard fight with abuse, it out me in a mental state exactly like this. I thought there was an axe murderer in the house and that people and animals were aliens trying to kill everyone I loved and cared about. I say in my room and ate PB and lived off of monster energy drinks for 2 months and only left to stock up again, but would act weird around the workers cause they were aliens, right?

I couldn't tell reality from imagination at all.

 

[Lisa]

Wow that actually sounds very terrifying, I'm glad this no longer happens to you, I've had a few friends who had in & out of body experiences without even trying, taking drugs etc... and it would only happen to them when they were alone or laying down, in this the case for you?

No. It would happen while I was alone and it would happen while I was not alone. Sometimes I would be engaged in conversation and just stop speaking. I was told I would get a weird expression like a curious grin. It felt good I remember that. I would remember that that was what was real while I was there but then as I would come back here I would see this reality and think oh no I'm coming back to this and I would know that even though I was just reminded it isn't real, there are so many things that make it seem real.

I'm so relieved to find this thread. I've been feeling the same way for months now, especially when I'm alone. It seems like once all the distractions are removed, the walls of reality start to crumble. I've had some psychotic-like symptoms recently, too. Some extremely real-feeling hallucinations (visual and olfactory).

I'm sorry for everyone else here who feels the same, but I'm somewhat glad I'm not alone.

Can you share some of them? I ask because I have come to believe that these hallucinations are simply a new ability to see a different reality

No joke, when I'm so depressed that I only stare in the distance, everything seems pixellated.
When I couldn't cope with stress in high school I'd tell myself: "It's okay. It's just a memory."
Who knows, maybe this very moment is just one of my memories and in reality I'm a 90-year old on her deathbed.

I like that: THIS IS JUST A MEMORY. It's perfect