This really gave me hope. This is the method i want to use but i've only managed to find the sweet spot one from many attempts. I'm sure i'll suceed eventually though and i feel at peace with that.
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Isn't there the risk that while unconscious we get to remove that thing from our necks?
From what i've read if you're using a ratchet and it is tight when you go unconscious there is no way it will come off
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Would you mind sharing a picture of this device? I can't seem to find anything online. Is it the one in the picture that BurningLights shared? Because it seems that it can be open with a little pull. I am not familiar about how 'smart' we are when we are unconscious, but maybe we can loosen it it if we struggle?
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Here's a video showing how the ratchet strap works.
It's also on the 1st page of the official [Method] The "night-night" mega thread:
I think you'll understand better once you see how it works. Opening it up actually tightens the strap.
It's also on the 1st page of the official [Method] The "night-night" mega thread:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/post-113399
I think you'll understand better once you see how it works. Opening it up actually tightens the strap.
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By the way, for me I've found the easiest way to start blacking out and getting tingly is to lean forward while sitting on the couch and pressing my arteries (my elbows are on my knees, and my legs are crossed usually but that shouldn't factor in). That other person said they got best results when they leaned their neck back a lot, so if that doesnt work for you, you could try out doing it this way. Just for the general getting to know your neck and practicing the feeling or whatever.
I have spent the last two weeks trying to figure this method out. I finally figured it out and wanted to pass on the information for anyone who needs it. Keep in mind, some of this may not apply to you or it may be wrong but these are my findings while figuring this out.
I found my carotid artery pretty earlier on while I was sitting up. My vision started fading quickly and so I let up. It wasn't until later that I found out you have two locations for your carotid artery on each side of your neck. The one I found was directly beside the windpipe on each side. I later found out that the correct carotid arteries you want to compress are further away from the windpipe and slightly higher up. You want to push directly into your neck to hit them. It's also important to note that it is much easy to compress your carotid artery when you are sitting up versus laying down. Because you don't want a failed attempt, you want to make sure you do this lying down so falling over won't ease up the pressure on your artery. I tried the square bean bags, compressed socks, folded socks, marbles with compressed socks and beanbags, and medication caps. The ones on the regular sized bottles. All of those and I still was not able to compress them with the ratchet.
So regarding the ratchet, I bought two. One with a width of 2" and another with 1.5". I am on the smaller side so I found out the 1.5" was the way to go for me. Too wide and it makes it harder to get the ratchet high enough on your neck. I originally was also using one with hooks. When I switched to the 1.5", I cut the hook off and tied a good length of the belt to the metal part where the hook was attached too. Then I fed it through the ratchet like normal.
I tried all of the above methods of compression with the 1.5" and was still coming up with nothing but tonight, I finally did it. I decided to try the medicine caps again but by themselves. After some adjustments, I realized the caps need to be farther apart from where I was pushing the carotid artery with my fingers. It's closer to the outside of your neck, if that makes sense. I applied pressure and it worked! The problem though, is that to compress just your carotid artery, you need a specific spot that doesn't also hit the spot that causes your head to feel pressure. I found out that was actually wrong. If you compress both arteries at the same time, you won't get that pressure because you block blood to and from the brain.
So what I ended up doing was taking a long sock I had, and thing it around my neck, relatively tight but not uncomfortable. I then placed the medicine caps under the sock into the correct places and thebsock was tied tight enough to keep them in position. After I got that set up, I laid down and pushed them directly towards the center of my neck and started getting the head pressure. I pushed them even harder against my neck and the pressure went away and my vision started fading fast. That's when I realized the problem and reason it wasn't working for me before. The directions say you can tighten it at your leisure but the truth is, you want to tighten it quickly once you know the caps are in the right place. You basically will tighten the ratchet to the point where it's tight around your neck but it's not cutting off anything. Something important to note, when you tight the ratchet, if you are not using tape or something strong to keep the caps in place, they will be moved from the strap pulling on them as the ratchet tightens everything. Since i didn't have tape, I shifted the strap in the opposite direction that it was being pulled while i was cranking the ratchet to keep everything in place. Once you have the ratchet tight, when you are ready to CTB, you will want to crank it quickly 3-5 times. If done correctly, you will tighten both arteries at the same time and the pressure will go away and your vision will begin to blur. If the pressure remains after a couple of seconds after tightening it, release the ratchet and make adjustments to where the caps are placed. Keep in mind you want to do all of this from a laying down position. If you are sitting when you fade out and fall over, there is a good chance the pressure won't be enough and you will wake up.
My first successful attempt at compressing correctly with the ratchet happened about an hour ago. By tightening the ratchet quickly, I felt pressure and it immediately faded followed by my vision blocking out. I quickly released it since I am not quite ready to go just yet. I'm sure I didn't do a very good job of explaining everything but hopefully it can help some of you figure it out. It is important to take things slowly to make sure everything is in place. I spent roughly 50 hours of trying to figure this out so it can absolutely take a while but I wanted a painless death and this seems like my only option.
My thoughts: I am ready to CTB because my life has been a series of terrible things over and over again. For 14 years, I have had suicidal thoughts almost daily. I met my wife and we were together for 10.5 years. She was what kept me from leaving earth. She would tell me everyday we were forever. Until last month when she left me. Abruptly too. There was no, let's try counseling or anything, though I offered. She was just done. She later told me all of the reasons why she was leaving me and most of it was things she had never mentioned during our relationship. She made me feel like trash, and kept hurting me and breaking me more than she did when she left. The plan is to CTB before the divorce is filed so that I can still die a married man to the woman that was supposed to be with me forever. I'm not sure if that will be a few weeks or months but now that I finally have the ratchet working, it makes it easier to go through these days knowing there is a clear end. I have never lived by myself and I have never felt more isolated and abandoned as I do now. I'm going to spend my last days working a boring job, but at least on the weekends, I can hang out with my friend and get some good memories before I'm gone. I am also now on talking terms with my soon to be widow and we have played video games online together like we used to. I've completely closed up to her and I don't let my guard down around here but it's nice to be able to spend more time with her before I go.
I will do my best to make another comment here right before I CTB so there is more proof it works.
I found my carotid artery pretty earlier on while I was sitting up. My vision started fading quickly and so I let up. It wasn't until later that I found out you have two locations for your carotid artery on each side of your neck. The one I found was directly beside the windpipe on each side. I later found out that the correct carotid arteries you want to compress are further away from the windpipe and slightly higher up. You want to push directly into your neck to hit them. It's also important to note that it is much easy to compress your carotid artery when you are sitting up versus laying down. Because you don't want a failed attempt, you want to make sure you do this lying down so falling over won't ease up the pressure on your artery. I tried the square bean bags, compressed socks, folded socks, marbles with compressed socks and beanbags, and medication caps. The ones on the regular sized bottles. All of those and I still was not able to compress them with the ratchet.
So regarding the ratchet, I bought two. One with a width of 2" and another with 1.5". I am on the smaller side so I found out the 1.5" was the way to go for me. Too wide and it makes it harder to get the ratchet high enough on your neck. I originally was also using one with hooks. When I switched to the 1.5", I cut the hook off and tied a good length of the belt to the metal part where the hook was attached too. Then I fed it through the ratchet like normal.
I tried all of the above methods of compression with the 1.5" and was still coming up with nothing but tonight, I finally did it. I decided to try the medicine caps again but by themselves. After some adjustments, I realized the caps need to be farther apart from where I was pushing the carotid artery with my fingers. It's closer to the outside of your neck, if that makes sense. I applied pressure and it worked! The problem though, is that to compress just your carotid artery, you need a specific spot that doesn't also hit the spot that causes your head to feel pressure. I found out that was actually wrong. If you compress both arteries at the same time, you won't get that pressure because you block blood to and from the brain.
So what I ended up doing was taking a long sock I had, and thing it around my neck, relatively tight but not uncomfortable. I then placed the medicine caps under the sock into the correct places and thebsock was tied tight enough to keep them in position. After I got that set up, I laid down and pushed them directly towards the center of my neck and started getting the head pressure. I pushed them even harder against my neck and the pressure went away and my vision started fading fast. That's when I realized the problem and reason it wasn't working for me before. The directions say you can tighten it at your leisure but the truth is, you want to tighten it quickly once you know the caps are in the right place. You basically will tighten the ratchet to the point where it's tight around your neck but it's not cutting off anything. Something important to note, when you tight the ratchet, if you are not using tape or something strong to keep the caps in place, they will be moved from the strap pulling on them as the ratchet tightens everything. Since i didn't have tape, I shifted the strap in the opposite direction that it was being pulled while i was cranking the ratchet to keep everything in place. Once you have the ratchet tight, when you are ready to CTB, you will want to crank it quickly 3-5 times. If done correctly, you will tighten both arteries at the same time and the pressure will go away and your vision will begin to blur. If the pressure remains after a couple of seconds after tightening it, release the ratchet and make adjustments to where the caps are placed. Keep in mind you want to do all of this from a laying down position. If you are sitting when you fade out and fall over, there is a good chance the pressure won't be enough and you will wake up.
My first successful attempt at compressing correctly with the ratchet happened about an hour ago. By tightening the ratchet quickly, I felt pressure and it immediately faded followed by my vision blocking out. I quickly released it since I am not quite ready to go just yet. I'm sure I didn't do a very good job of explaining everything but hopefully it can help some of you figure it out. It is important to take things slowly to make sure everything is in place. I spent roughly 50 hours of trying to figure this out so it can absolutely take a while but I wanted a painless death and this seems like my only option.
My thoughts: I am ready to CTB because my life has been a series of terrible things over and over again. For 14 years, I have had suicidal thoughts almost daily. I met my wife and we were together for 10.5 years. She was what kept me from leaving earth. She would tell me everyday we were forever. Until last month when she left me. Abruptly too. There was no, let's try counseling or anything, though I offered. She was just done. She later told me all of the reasons why she was leaving me and most of it was things she had never mentioned during our relationship. She made me feel like trash, and kept hurting me and breaking me more than she did when she left. The plan is to CTB before the divorce is filed so that I can still die a married man to the woman that was supposed to be with me forever. I'm not sure if that will be a few weeks or months but now that I finally have the ratchet working, it makes it easier to go through these days knowing there is a clear end. I have never lived by myself and I have never felt more isolated and abandoned as I do now. I'm going to spend my last days working a boring job, but at least on the weekends, I can hang out with my friend and get some good memories before I'm gone. I am also now on talking terms with my soon to be widow and we have played video games online together like we used to. I've completely closed up to her and I don't let my guard down around here but it's nice to be able to spend more time with her before I go.
I will do my best to make another comment here right before I CTB so there is more proof it works.
The ratchet handle itself, where do I make sure its positioned the whole time?Possible resource? Not sure, any mod wants to change it feel free.
As a quick disclaimer, I fucking suck at explaining things, I'm gonna do my best to make this as clear as possible, but it might just be a mess, but here goes...
My 'rig'
It's a 1 inch strap, I cut a lot of excess strap off, as you can't wind the whole lot up, there's kind of a sweet spot for the length, but as long as you get it over your head, and tighten it without it binding up your good.
I have used two pieces of rolled up sock material for my 'padding', this took a bit of figuring to get to this point. I was able to block the carotid with my fingers but not with the larger padding, so I tried to imitate my fingers with the rolled up material.
This was a pain in the ass, trying to get the padding to stay in place, as they are quite small.
To help with this, I have duct tape them to the strap. What you can't really see is HOW I have done it, I'll try and explain..
First of I got my roll of duct tape, and used half the width, so tore it down the middle.
I then wrapped a piece round the strap, so I have a somewhat free moving 'base' to attach the socks. (Does that make sense?)
Imagine wrapping a piece of tape round your finger, that what it should look like.
I then cut a piece of sock material, and rolled to the size one of those camera film pots (2inchs long by 1inch wide) this may need A piece of tape keeps it rolled up.
Then I simply placed the paddings on the tape wrapped round the strap, VERTICALLY, (this is very important for me to get the sweet spot) and wrapped a length of tape round to hold it in place.
Now I have a strap with two bits of padding that can move up and down the strap, this great because I can make fine adjustments to get dead on the sweet spot!
Now, getting the sweet spot. This was a pain in the ass and I just figured out last night that the trick is to hold your neck back, as if your pushing the front of your neck forward, (show me your Adams apple!!)
This feels like it pushes the carotid to the front.
This could be a problem, as when I tilt my head forward, it will release the pressure, this a double edged sword. On one hand its good, it means I can adjust the padding with the strap pretty fucking tight, then all I have to do is one more crank and lean my head back and I'm gone.
On the other hand, if I move while passing out / dying I there is I'd chance of releasing the pressure. I'll get to that one that times comes ( you get only get one practice I would have thought)
The carotid is more up the top of the neck, (please see the mega thread NIGHT NIGHT METHOD for info on this.)
So this means we can sit the strap under the sweet spot, so we can feel for it while the strap is still round the neck.
I highly recommend getting to know your neck area, getting a feel for all the stuff inside, the muscles, the carotid, where it sits in the neck, where it pushes up against etcetera. You should be able to block both with just your fingers, ( and a fair bit of pressure)
I've practiced and practiced, I can mark on my neck the exact point I need pressure.
Become an expert on your neck!
So we're almost ready, rig made, and round our neck, we know what we're looking for in the neck, let's get to it!! (I've rambled long enough)
Now sit your padding under the area of the carotid, so it's out the way, ONE SIDE AT A TIME you then want to find your sweet spot, (this may take a bit faffing, bit its doable) now, keep your finger there, feel your fingers on neck, remember where you felt the finger on your neck, burn this feeling into your brain, you then want to move the padding on to where you felt your fingers (I'm using some kind of touch memory for this process)
Do the same for the other side.
You should now have a pretty tight strap round your neck with the padding on the carotid, you should be able to apply pressure to the padding (just by pushing on it) and make yourself feel fucking weird. Do this till your hearts content, be confident I it. At this point you should be able to tilt your neck back and feel the pressure. Depending on how tight the strap is. You want it tight enough so it's somewhat uncomfortable, but still able to do stuff.
So that's all that I've learned through trial and error, I'm confident I will get this done. I hope this explains well enough!!
Much love and hugs to all
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