Nembutal is not painless.

[tpboy]

With my time approaching I'm trying to decide on a method. Every time i feel like i have settled in i get spooked. I have guns, N. F and SN. No telling how much i have spent acquiring these. In the thousands for sure. I watch prison execution videos since they are now using a one drug system of N. Some of the autopsy results are not pretty which i will include. They say the fluid buildup in the lungs would feel like drowning which is horrible. In Alabama they are using the nitrogen method and some of what is happening to them is not good either. Blood and coughing ect during the procedure. All this in a way leads me to conclude there is no perfect death. I may just have to say fuck it and use a gun which i did not have to buy, already had. At least more people have died by a gun than any other method in history. Tried and true.

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[geepeedee]

how did you get N?

 

[tpboy]

how did you get N?

from a dealer. they used to work for animal control.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

from a dealer. they used to work for animal control.

How much did you pay?

 

[tpboy]

How much did you pay?

1.5k

How much did you pay?

Its funny. I'm trying to bring out the fact that autopsy reports are saying that these people had their lungs filled with fluid after taking N but that does not slow down the fascinations of it one bit. For me it is terrifying to feel like im drowning and can do nothing about it. I would rather take a shot to the head. BTW this was with using a iv format. I would take it orally and have to deal with the taste and slower reaction time. idk.

 

[X-sanguinate86]

The person who has taken/received N is deep asleep.

 

[geepeedee]

1.5k

Its funny. I'm trying to bring out the fact that autopsy reports are saying that these people had their lungs filled with fluid after taking N but that does not slow down the fascinations of it one bit. For me it is terrifying to feel like im drowning and can do nothing about it. I would rather take a shot to the head. BTW this was with using a iv format. I would take it orally and have to deal with the taste and slower reaction time. idk.

You hit the jackpot of painless methods and it's not good enough lol. The fluid buildup happens after unconsciousness sets in.

 

[BrokenByTheSystem]

From what I heard you'll be in a deep coma until you truly die, you won't be able to feel anything, you'll be in a coma in a few minutes then die after 1h or so. Why worrying about what happen if you'll be in a coma?

 

[Forever Sleep]

I suppose we can't know for sure how it feels- if the person is unresponsive as they die. We can only monitor their behaviour. But then- I'm not sure they would use N in the VAD clinics if it caused such extreme discomfort/ distress. Patients aren't strapped down by the looks of it either. Plus- they often have loved ones around them. If they died writhing in agony- I imagine that would be more heard about.

I'm not into watching gore but, I did see a short documentary of someone dying at Dignitas- and it looked very fast and painless.

 

[Intoxicated]

They say the fluid buildup in the lungs would feel like drowning which is horrible.

Well, even if you choose drowning, you can't actually feel it after hypoxia reaches some degree, at which your sensitivity is lost. It's like lying on a surgical table, being put under general anesthesia - whatever happens to your body, it doesn't concern you.

Autopsies Show Excess Fluid in Lungs of All Four Prisoners Put to Death in Oklahoma Execution Spree | Death Penalty Information Center

Autopsies of the four men executed by Oklahoma between October 2021 and February 2022 show that all four prisoners had excess fluid in their lungs,...

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I was hoping to see some realistic examples of discomfort that took place prior to LOC. For example, the process filmed in "Terry Pratchett - Choosing to Die" doesn't look as ideal as many users tend to describe this method. N OD definitely belongs to the top comfortable methods, but it's not the most physically comfortable one amongst all methods present at this moment.

As for liquid appearing in the lungs after entering the comatose state, this is the last thing I would care about.

 

[Talvikki]

The claims of "subjective drowning" should not be taken seriously

The pulmonary edema 'drowning' experience after taking pentobarbital has been exaggerated by those working to outlaw the death penalty in the United States (i.e., by arguing that a lethal IV pentobarbital death would be 'cruel and unusual' and in violation of the 8th US Constitutional Amendment).

Barbiturates were once the standard sleeping tablets. Due to their lethality in overdose, they became the most popular drug for suicides, but a 1970s campaign to replace them with much safer benzodiazepines was completely successful.

The standard barbiturate sleeping dose was one or two 100 mg tablets. Suicidal individuals who took more than 30 tablets (3000 mg) rarely reached the hospital alive, because breathing stops after large barbiturate overdoses. Those who arrived unconscious but still breathing typically remained unconscious for two or three days. Before the advent of intensive care units, some died in the hospital despite medical efforts. No survivors have ever reported anything unpleasant between swallowing barbiturates and losing consciousness except their bitter taste.

Pharmacological scaremongering in the assisted dying debate:
https://www.healthsense-uk.org/publications/newsletter/newsletter-126/412-126-brewer.html

 

[Dejected 55]

This comes up periodically. You can't really compare experiences during executions with suicide experiences. For one, the person being executed does not want to die. For another, the people doing the execution really aren't concerned with comfort of the prisoner during the experience.

So while mileage can vary and some people experience a method different than others... the execution experience should be expected to be different than the self-administered one.

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

I suppose we can't know for sure how it feels- if the person is unresponsive as they die. We can only monitor their behaviour. But then- I'm not sure they would use N in the VAD clinics if it caused such extreme discomfort/ distress. Patients aren't strapped down by the looks of it either. Plus- they often have loved ones around them. If they died writhing in agony- I imagine that would be more heard about.

I'm not into watching gore but, I did see a short documentary of someone dying at Dignitas- and it looked very fast and painless.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[outrider567]

With my time approaching I'm trying to decide on a method. Every time i feel like i have settled in i get spooked. I have guns, N. F and SN. No telling how much i have spent acquiring these. In the thousands for sure. I watch prison execution videos since they are now using a one drug system of N. Some of the autopsy results are not pretty which i will include. They say the fluid buildup in the lungs would feel like drowning which is horrible. In Alabama they are using the nitrogen method and some of what is happening to them is not good either. Blood and coughing ect during the procedure. All this in a way leads me to conclude there is no perfect death. I may just have to say fuck it and use a gun which i did not have to buy, already had. At least more people have died by a gun than any other method in history. Tried and true.

Autopsies Show Excess Fluid in Lungs of All Four Prisoners Put to Death in Oklahoma Execution Spree | Death Penalty Information Center

Autopsies of the four men executed by Oklahoma between October 2021 and February 2022 show that all four prisoners had excess fluid in their lungs,...

deathpenaltyinfo.org

Totally wrong as far as Nitrogen is concerned--Condemned inmates hold their breath and fight it(just like the old gas chamber in California but they suffocated)--But not us, we take eager deep breaths of Nitrogen, then after about ten of those deep breaths, we slip into peaceful unconsciousness, breathing 99% Nitrogen feels exactly the same as breathing air, and I oughta know, I've done it 5 times

 

[Sadbanana]

Maybe the pain is worth it