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ben7

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Dec 30, 2020
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I have a couple of concerns on N.

Firstly, if you have PSSD / damaged receptors from antidepressant use (but have been off them for a while) will 2 x bottles of N still work?

Secondly, I had read somewhere that Prochlorperazine was a good substitute for Meto, but have now read it could react badly with someone with PSSD / damaged receptors (and is actually more of an antidepressant / antipsychotic itself), so am a bit scared to use now. Would Meto be a lot safer?

Is there ever an argument for having straight N in this scenario?
 
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I have a couple of concerns on N.

Firstly, if you have PSSD / damaged receptors from antidepressant use (but have been off them for a while) will 2 x bottles of N still work?

Secondly, I had read somewhere that Prochlorperazine was a good substitute for Meto, but have now read it could react badly with someone with PSSD / damaged receptors (and is actually more of an antidepressant / antipsychotic itself), so am a bit scared to use now. Would Meto be a lot safer?

Is there ever an argument for having straight N in this scenario?

I used to use anti depressants, I have 2 bottles of N and i am 100% sure i will CTB when i take it. even though we all want to know the answers to questions straight away, i would advise reading the PPH as they are EXPERIENCED, LEGIT people who know alot about this stuff. Rather than reading posts that people pu ton a n internet forum, there is alot of misinformation aimed at scarring others(not all i might mention). If you read the PPH you will then be able to see what post are BS etc!!!!

So for instance prochlorperazine is listed as an anti e, along with the doses, when to take etc. I know it means reading up, but you are far more likely to get the CORRECT information you want. It is advised to test the anti e beforehand.

The ONLY recorded cases of a person surviving N are of a person being intercepted(found) and medical intervention. In other words you take it and are not found you CTB 100%

Alot of people have been recorder taking N without an anti e
 
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ben7

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Thanks I did check PPH but couldn't find the section of antiemetic options for some reason, plus damage from antidepressants is quite niche injury so not sure the PPH will cover that but I get your point thanks.
 
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Thanks I did check PPH but couldn't find the section of antiemetic options for some reason, plus damage from antidepressants is quite niche injury so not sure the PPH will cover that but I get your point thanks.

drugs and vomiting section. Well it includes information about alcohol abuse and taking N (no recorded failures) and using barbiturates and cross tolerance (again no failures) it just advises 2 bottles. like i said there are 0 failures recorded, being found is not a 'failure' its a failure to follow the protocol, not the drugs. It mentions the use of prolonged anti psychotic medication that can incur a prolonged comatose phase, in this case 2 bottles is recommended, so it mentioned!!!

It shuts down your CNS and then you stop breathing, anti depressant use isn't going to stop it doing that!!!
 
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ben7

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Dec 30, 2020
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Ok thanks a lot, have less doubts about N now, but need to find an antiemetic that I don't react badly too, don't want to mess up that bit.
 
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checkouttime

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Jul 15, 2020
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Ok thanks a lot, have less doubts about N now, but need to find an antiemetic that I don't react badly too, don't want to mess up that bit.

Like i said i post exactly whats in the PPH and they are experts and have been around this stuff for a long time. You will see plenty of stuff posted on here and all its meant to do is plant the seed of doubt and scare you. I read the PPH and now i can see all the bullshit that gets posted clear as day!!!! i'm not saying everything is BS, but just be aware some info will be planted so you question things. the info you wanted on anti psychotic is in the pph, it can be linked to the long comatose state( you would still die, but can take upto 24hrs) but in this case 2 bottles is recommended(most people go for 2 anyway).

my personal opinion is believe the positive answers to N, rather than negative(it isn't pure, peaceful, hard to get, all complete BS)
 
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"In some of the analysed cases, the long comatose phase is associated with the prolonged use of anti-psychotic medication, prior to taking the barbiturate. It is presumed the induction of liver enzymes by these drugs causes some degradation of the Nembutal before it reaches the brain.In this situation, increasing the quantity of drug taken (eg. to 2 bottles, 12gm) may not necessarily hasten the death. Exit has examined the use of several potentiating drugs which may be dissolved into the liquid Nembutal, removing any possibility of extended coma".

This concerns me…
 
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ben7

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Dec 30, 2020
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I used to use anti depressants, I have 2 bottles of N and i am 100% sure i will CTB when i take it. even though we all want to know the answers to questions straight away, i would advise reading the PPH as they are EXPERIENCED, LEGIT people who know alot about this stuff. Rather than reading posts that people pu ton a n internet forum, there is alot of misinformation aimed at scarring others(not all i might mention). If you read the PPH you will then be able to see what post are BS etc!!!!

So for instance prochlorperazine is listed as an anti e, along with the doses, when to take etc. I know it means reading up, but you are far more likely to get the CORRECT information you want. It is advised to test the anti e beforehand.

The ONLY recorded cases of a person surviving N are of a person being intercepted(found) and medical intervention. In other words you take it and are not found you CTB 100%

Alot of people have been recorder taking N without an anti e
Just re-reading your comment here, at the end you say a lot of people have been recorded taking N without an anti e? That sounds interesting do you know where I could find out more about these cases? It feels like it could be a good option for me.
 
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Jul 15, 2020
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"In some of the analysed cases, the long comatose phase is associated with the prolonged use of anti-psychotic medication, prior to taking the barbiturate. It is presumed the induction of liver enzymes by these drugs causes some degradation of the Nembutal before it reaches the brain.In this situation, increasing the quantity of drug taken (eg. to 2 bottles, 12gm) may not necessarily hasten the death. Exit has examined the use of several potentiating drugs which may be dissolved into the liquid Nembutal, removing any possibility of extended coma".

This concerns me…

I doubt it concerns most people, me included and i'm one of the people it could effect!! Regardless of it might take upto 24hrs in VERY RARE cases. you will still CTB GUARENTEED, it will be peaceful and you will still pass out very quickly and be realistically dead almost straight away. (in a coma)
Just re-reading your comment here, at the end you say a lot of people have been recorded taking N without an anti e? That sounds interesting do you know where I could find out more about these cases? It feels like it could be a good option for me.

I can't remember if i read it on here, members who had ctb using it. Its basically to stop you being sick, it depends on your circumstances i imagine/illness. some people might have stomach issues. I have got an OTC one personally, as i'm not worried about throwing it up. I know canabis is listed as one that can be used aswell if thats what you fancy as an alternative.
 
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ben7

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Domperidone seems like a milder AE, is OTC in a lot of places so might be a good option - probably that or nothing now I think.
 
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Domperidone seems like a milder AE, is OTC in a lot of places so might be a good option - probably that or nothing now I think.

I also was originally thinking N could be taken without an anti-E. Seems like it was in 50% of patients at Dignitas or one of those Swiss organizations. But they always have more N and can also help administer it to patients that were out of it (not sure if they were allowed to administer though).

But basically since for us this is a solo affair. I have been looking into places to get meto. Found a couple of sources, PM me if you want details.
 

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