Defenestration

Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,165
My method to combat SI (survival instinct)

so this is NOT an incitement to suicide, everyone does what they want, I just speak for MYSELF what I think I am doing, ME...

. I think that to force me to jump I will swallow 16 g( or more) of paracetamol just before which will kill my liver.
I know that if I don't jump, I will suffer a lot throughout my life from the consequences
of this action...
So I will be forced to jump, unless I experience this horror. I will be in panic and give me strengh to jump to avoid dolor.
Jumping will be the only solution to avoid suffer of a destroyed liver.

I definitely advise against this method because some people could swallow it and still not kill themselves, which would make their lige very difficult. so not to do...!

the goal is just to be more afraid of what can happen after terrible if I don't jump than of the jump itself which lasts 3 seconds and as the height is 60 m, I have a good chance of killing myself and die instantly...

What do you think???

Thanks
 
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norkz

norkz

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Jun 28, 2024
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I'll say it's very good idea. SI it's very hard to overcome. But I'll feel like it would add more stress to the situation why not to leave in a peacefully? :(
 
waterworks

waterworks

in the luminous darkness
Jan 31, 2024
104
I think the SI when overdosing on paracetamol would just kick in. Right now, it seems like a relief to say that because you might be anxious about jumping, and not so much about the overdose, because you've decided on the jump being the main thing. But I think in the moment, it will feel just the same when taking the paracetamol. I also really don't advise this, as there is so much you can convince yourself of in the moment no matter how resolute you feel you are, and if you do take the paracetamol you'll be forced to live in a world of hurt. I'd say give yourself the opportunity to change your mind, that's the best way.
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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I'll say it's very good idea. SI it's very hard to overcome. But I'll feel like it would add more stress to the situation why not to leave in a peacefully? :(
It's not possible to leave in a peacefully because of SI
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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The reasoning makes sense. I suppose I'm hoping I will hold in my head the horrors I've seen in nursing homes. Even seeing my elderly relatives suffer. I know I'm going to need to keep telling myself it's that (very likely) fate in part I am trying to avoid. My method would likely be SN though- so, maybe easier to overcome SI wise. But, to have the imminent threat of pain would be frightening and quite possibly enough to initiate a more desperate action.

It's just so awful though really. Everyone here is here because they have suffered enormously. It kind of pisses me off that we have to suffer this much at the end too.

Do you know how quickly paracetamol OD takes effect? And, do you know what the symtoms are? That would be one concern. Whether the onset of pain is so quick and debilitating, it may actually prevent the physical attempt. I don't know though.
 
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murmur

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Dec 11, 2022
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We know that murder and ctb are not one in the same, but I think it could be helpful to compartmentalize it like murder, as far as imagining how others could perceive it. Speaking for myself, ctb is a matter of fact for many reasons, for the majority of others, its abysmal, they'd think your state of mind must be in a dangerous place. Everybody is different, they might not react as strongly, but it only takes one person to make it a problem. Telling somebody about your ideations or implying it inadvertently puts them in a tough spot, it could be like saying or giving the idea that you think about killing somebody/plan to kill, some people would feel the need to do something about it in good conscious.
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,165
What about sleeping pills or pills to chill better or alcohol not paracetamol
alcohol "protects" the organs a little because it relaxes. I tried sedatives but the problem was that it somewhat stopped me from wanting to kill myself because I was very relaxed and I no longer had the rage to end it.
The reasoning makes sense. I suppose I'm hoping I will hold in my head the horrors I've seen in nursing homes. Even seeing my elderly relatives suffer. I know I'm going to need to keep telling myself it's that (very likely) fate in part I am trying to avoid. My method would likely be SN though- so, maybe easier to overcome SI wise. But, to have the imminent threat of pain would be frightening and quite possibly enough to initiate a more desperate action.

It's just so awful though really. Everyone here is here because they have suffered enormously. It kind of pisses me off that we have to suffer this much at the end too.

Do you know how quickly paracetamol OD takes effect? And, do you know what the symtoms are? That would be one concern. Whether the onset of pain is so quick and debilitating, it may actually prevent the physical attempt. I don't know though.

If you Can put subtile in english

 
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SeekingPeace164

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Mar 20, 2024
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That's my plan with aspirin. It's a blood thinner so it'll help my method (gunshot to head). Also might take rat poison since the way it kills is by thinning the blood. So I'll take a bunch beforehand. And since it's super painful to overdose on that, I'm hoping it'll decrease my will to live further. You really have to be at rock bottom
 
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I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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The reasoning makes sense. I suppose I'm hoping I will hold in my head the horrors I've seen in nursing homes. Even seeing my elderly relatives suffer. I know I'm going to need to keep telling myself it's that (very likely) fate in part I am trying to avoid. My method would likely be SN though- so, maybe easier to overcome SI wise. But, to have the imminent threat of pain would be frightening and quite possibly enough to initiate a more desperate action.

It's just so awful though really. Everyone here is here because they have suffered enormously. It kind of pisses me off that we have to suffer this much at the end too.

Do you know how quickly paracetamol OD takes effect? And, do you know what the symtoms are? That would be one concern. Whether the onset of pain is so quick and debilitating, it may actually prevent the physical attempt. I don't know though.
In the video, they Say that zéro symptoms before 2 hours...
 
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That's my plan with aspirin. It's a blood thinner so it'll help my method (gunshot to head). Also might take rat poison since the way it kills is by thinning the blood. So I'll take a bunch beforehand. And since it's super painful to overdose on that, I'm hoping it'll decrease my will to live further. You really have to be at rock bottom
Rat poison in supermarket?
Symptôme juste After drunk?
 
cait_sith

cait_sith

Brain rotted, often missing word
Apr 8, 2024
176
This is just my opinion, I think this is not a good idea, taking so many pills can also trigger si so there's a chance of you aborting the operation midway through which will also damage you and if you go to hospital because of it the doctors might declare you taking so many paracetamol as a suicide attempt and you get sectioned. You are adding variables on top of your original plans that could lead it to fail and in the end you don't know if doing this will be enough to overcome si.
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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This is just my opinion, I think this is not a good idea, taking so many pills can also trigger si so there's a chance of you aborting the operation midway through which will also damage you and if you go to hospital because of it the doctors might declare you taking so many paracetamol as a suicide attempt and you get sectioned. You are adding variables on top of your original plans that could lead it to fail and in the end you don't know if doing this will be enough to overcome si.
No symptômes before 2 hours
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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Others opinions please?🙏
 
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M48 Patton

Student
Jun 2, 2024
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It's your body and your choice as to what you do but just be careful if you decide to take an overdose of over the counter pain relief because you may want to back out of jumping after you've taken the drugs and have to deal with the physical issues that the OD on the pain relief has caused.
having to deal with health issues that are chronic I would try not to mess your body up more than is reasonable.
 
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Mywill

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Feb 6, 2020
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I love this idea, doubling down on the ctb instead of chikened out with no consequences like the SI truly wanted. I am adding this into my plan but with all the quetiapine I have instead.
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,165
J'adore cette idée, redoubler d'efforts sur le CTB au lieu de me décourager sans conséquences comme le voulait vraiment le SI. J'ajoute cela à mon plan, mais avec toute la quétiapine que j'ai à la place.
Be careful
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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I think Always do this
 
opheliaoveragain

opheliaoveragain

Eating Disordered Junkie
Jun 2, 2024
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I agree with above posts that the reasoning certainly makes sense. I hope it is enough for you to find peace. Keep us updated, if you want
<3 We care.
 
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hadenoughscotland

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Jun 13, 2024
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My method to combat SI (survival instinct)

so this is NOT an incitement to suicide, everyone does what they want, I just speak for MYSELF what I think I am doing, ME...

. I think that to force me to jump I will swallow 16 g( or more) of paracetamol just before which will kill my liver.
I know that if I don't jump, I will suffer a lot throughout my life from the consequences
of this action...
So I will be forced to jump, unless I experience this horror. I will be in panic and give me strengh to jump to avoid dolor.
Jumping will be the only solution to avoid suffer of a destroyed liver.

I definitely advise against this method because some people could swallow it and still not kill themselves, which would make their lige very difficult. so not to do...!

the goal is just to be more afraid of what can happen after terrible if I don't jump than of the jump itself which lasts 3 seconds and as the height is 60 m, I have a good chance of killing myself and die instantly...

What do you think???

Thanks
How many paracetamol alone would kill u
 
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Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,165
I dont know but 16mg seriously damage the liver if it is not taken in time
 
Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Wizard
Aug 28, 2021
654
What, if your SI prevents you from taking Paracetamol?

What, if you don´t find the stengths to jump after taking Paracetamol?

I had a similar idee in connection with full hanging: Step on a stool, put the noose around my neck and handcuff my hands behing my back. Now I have to step off the stool or to stand there untill I collapse. But my SI prevented me to handcuffs me.
 
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I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,165
What, if your SI prevents you from taking Paracetamol?

What, if you don´t find the stengths to jump after taking Paracetamol?

I had a similar idee in connection with full hanging: Step on a stool, put the noose around my neck and handcuff my hands behing my back. Now I have to step off the stool or to stand there untill I collapse. But my SI prevented me to handcuffs me.
I am less and less afraid of throwing myself away. the desire to live could hold me back but not the fear of jumping which I have started to tame over time. I know the place I will say 1,2,3 and I start saying "smell it" like in some videos where people throw themselves 30 meters into the water for fun.
 
Minsu

Minsu

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Jan 17, 2023
545
Pretty good method tbh. But I think jumping is a very drastic ctb method though
 
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samdocheon

samdocheon

Optimists are wrong
Jul 28, 2024
123
It's not possible to leave in a peacefully because of SI
What about holding your breath till fall inconscious?
Because, in that case you don't succes jump, you will be very sick during 24-48h
 
Downdraft

Downdraft

I've felt better ngl
Feb 6, 2024
686
Omfg please don't, this is a terrible idea. SI doesn't care about pain and will come at all cost. You're trying to patch a problem by creating an even bigger one, and it will only make you extra-fucked. DON'T USE THIS.

I find very concerning how most people seem to encourage this method, physical health is no joke guys. Everything can go wrong using this.
 
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I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,165
Omfg please don't, this is a terrible idea. SI doesn't care avout pain and will come at all cost. You're trying to patch a problem by creating an even bigger one, and it will only make you extra-fucked. DON'T USE THIS.

I find very concerning how most people seem to encourage this method, physical health is no joke guys. Everything can go wrong using this.
Yes not need...i want to jump.
 
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hereornot

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May 16, 2024
69
Meds doesnt work for me. Im trying make things that give guilty to not dismiss when i ctb
 

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