Introduction
I've finally gotten up from my bed and ended my procrastinating. I am planning to ctb by partial-suspension-hanging and decided to do some experimenting with different types of rope, techniques, positions...etc
The main goal here was to find out for myself what it actually feels like, how long it takes, what is the most comfortable way to do it and if I can do it. I want to be as prepared as I can and not be like last time I attempted, where i was overwhelmed by both the method and the survival instinct. I decided to get my method right.
I was scared to do it. I have no courage. But I thought of everyone and that gave me courage to do it.
Warning
Recreating what I did or doing something similar is dangerous. If you have any health problems you might cause some kind of nightmare scenario where something pops up. I have no diseases or ilnesses of that sort.
I did not use a slipknot or a noose. The reason is because I could have accidentally died had I passed out, I would've been on my way to death.(And knowing that I wouldn't be as calm as I was when thinking "It's just an experiment.")
I also did not use them, even when holding the end of the rope in my hand (so that I am not hanged if I pass out, the rope just falls down to the floor with me) because the noose sinches in tight and might not get off soon enough if I passed out. (I would probably not die, but could have severe brain damage, be paralyzed, blind, a vegetable...etc or just wake up with a bloody busted face, from bursted capillaries.)
I just used a rope, tied to my support beam, and used my hands to bend the rope so that it simulated a noose, but had I passed out, I would be fine. I did not make any noose. But I did get almost the same effect.(I wouldn't be wasting my own time, since I am doing this for myself. Trust me when I say I got almost the same effect)
Results
Experiment 1:
I used a 6mm (roughly 1/4 inch) rope. The rope was coming down from the ceiling. Coming down from my support, above my head. (The position of the ropes was the same for all experiments, as I have deemed it the overall best and most effective position from my research.)
I had a light shirt around my neck as padding. One layer of padding. I then hyperventilated (search it on youtube if you need an example) for around 20 seconds and then let my body partially go, applying hard pressure on my neck. The "noose" here was below my jaw, above my adams apple.
From seconds 1-2 I didn't feel much. Then from seconds 3-4 I felt the rope applying pressure on my neck and the uncomfortable feeling of it. From seconds 5-6 I felt the most discomfort and made a little noise from my throat. Then from seconds 7-8 It faded really quickly and my vision became white and by seconds 9-10 I was feeling tingly, hot and the discomfort on my neck was gone.
Did not pass out due to the nature of the test (actively using my hands) but I was on my way to it and my hands lost strenght. So I deem it a success.
Experiment 2:
Same rope position as in experiment 1. Did it the same exact way as in experiment 1 but used a different rope. The rope I used here was a little thicker, a 8mm (roughly 1/3 inch) rope.
Same exact results as in experiment 1, except that during seconds 3-4 and 5-6 I felt a little more discomfort/pain, an uncomfortable desire to swallow and it was a litle harder to breathe.
So, just a little bit more discomfort and pain, but same speed of passing out.
Experiment 3:
Same as experiment 1, but I folded my shirt/cloth once so it was double-thick. Basically added more padding.
The result was that I felt less pain and discomfort. The speed was the same. Great discovery. Definetely more padding.
Experiment 4:
Same as experiment 2, but more padding like experiment 3.
Same result. More comfortable, less pain, less feeling of needing to swallow.
Experiment 5:
Here I decided to try put the "noose" lower on my neck, beneath the adam's apple. Some people say it helps for them.
For me, definetely a no-go. Extremely uncomfortable. Total fail.
For me, the best position is right beneath the jaw, above adams apple.
Experiment 6:
Here I decided to try to lean into the rope slowly and gradually, instead of just letting my weight drop and applying all the pressure in an instant.(like i did in experiment 1-5)
Some people said it helped them reduce the gag/need to swallow and discomfort.
For me, it just got my jugular veins closed and had the blooding building up in my head with nowhere to go.(This is because the pressure was not enough to shut down the carotid arteries which bring blood into the head.)
So basically blood was coming in, but not going out. Immediately stopped. Very uncomfortable. It is that "head will explode" feeling.
I have found that for me it is best to just apply hard pressure as quickly as possible instead of slow and steady.
Conclusion
Combining all the things I have learned, I have found a way to quickly pass out from partial-suspension-hanging with minimal discomfort. Which is of course the desired scenario with this method.
However, some things work for some, while others work fot others. There is so much difference between neck muscles, neck fat, neck anatomy, personal tolerance to certain things....
So this information may not apply to you. Take it with a grain of salt. I just had to share my experiments with the community since I owe it to a lot of people here, and to the people who I learned from.
Hyperventilating for a bit before doing it also made me pass out quicker. Checks out with the experiences of others. Definetely a +.
I believe using alcohol to get very drunk and using a slipknot to make a noose will make this method pretty much painless and discomfortless, at least physically.
Thanks for reading. I finally made the post..
I've finally gotten up from my bed and ended my procrastinating. I am planning to ctb by partial-suspension-hanging and decided to do some experimenting with different types of rope, techniques, positions...etc
The main goal here was to find out for myself what it actually feels like, how long it takes, what is the most comfortable way to do it and if I can do it. I want to be as prepared as I can and not be like last time I attempted, where i was overwhelmed by both the method and the survival instinct. I decided to get my method right.
I was scared to do it. I have no courage. But I thought of everyone and that gave me courage to do it.
Warning
Recreating what I did or doing something similar is dangerous. If you have any health problems you might cause some kind of nightmare scenario where something pops up. I have no diseases or ilnesses of that sort.
I did not use a slipknot or a noose. The reason is because I could have accidentally died had I passed out, I would've been on my way to death.(And knowing that I wouldn't be as calm as I was when thinking "It's just an experiment.")
I also did not use them, even when holding the end of the rope in my hand (so that I am not hanged if I pass out, the rope just falls down to the floor with me) because the noose sinches in tight and might not get off soon enough if I passed out. (I would probably not die, but could have severe brain damage, be paralyzed, blind, a vegetable...etc or just wake up with a bloody busted face, from bursted capillaries.)
I just used a rope, tied to my support beam, and used my hands to bend the rope so that it simulated a noose, but had I passed out, I would be fine. I did not make any noose. But I did get almost the same effect.(I wouldn't be wasting my own time, since I am doing this for myself. Trust me when I say I got almost the same effect)
Results
Experiment 1:
I used a 6mm (roughly 1/4 inch) rope. The rope was coming down from the ceiling. Coming down from my support, above my head. (The position of the ropes was the same for all experiments, as I have deemed it the overall best and most effective position from my research.)
I had a light shirt around my neck as padding. One layer of padding. I then hyperventilated (search it on youtube if you need an example) for around 20 seconds and then let my body partially go, applying hard pressure on my neck. The "noose" here was below my jaw, above my adams apple.
From seconds 1-2 I didn't feel much. Then from seconds 3-4 I felt the rope applying pressure on my neck and the uncomfortable feeling of it. From seconds 5-6 I felt the most discomfort and made a little noise from my throat. Then from seconds 7-8 It faded really quickly and my vision became white and by seconds 9-10 I was feeling tingly, hot and the discomfort on my neck was gone.
Did not pass out due to the nature of the test (actively using my hands) but I was on my way to it and my hands lost strenght. So I deem it a success.
Experiment 2:
Same rope position as in experiment 1. Did it the same exact way as in experiment 1 but used a different rope. The rope I used here was a little thicker, a 8mm (roughly 1/3 inch) rope.
Same exact results as in experiment 1, except that during seconds 3-4 and 5-6 I felt a little more discomfort/pain, an uncomfortable desire to swallow and it was a litle harder to breathe.
So, just a little bit more discomfort and pain, but same speed of passing out.
Experiment 3:
Same as experiment 1, but I folded my shirt/cloth once so it was double-thick. Basically added more padding.
The result was that I felt less pain and discomfort. The speed was the same. Great discovery. Definetely more padding.
Experiment 4:
Same as experiment 2, but more padding like experiment 3.
Same result. More comfortable, less pain, less feeling of needing to swallow.
Experiment 5:
Here I decided to try put the "noose" lower on my neck, beneath the adam's apple. Some people say it helps for them.
For me, definetely a no-go. Extremely uncomfortable. Total fail.
For me, the best position is right beneath the jaw, above adams apple.
Experiment 6:
Here I decided to try to lean into the rope slowly and gradually, instead of just letting my weight drop and applying all the pressure in an instant.(like i did in experiment 1-5)
Some people said it helped them reduce the gag/need to swallow and discomfort.
For me, it just got my jugular veins closed and had the blooding building up in my head with nowhere to go.(This is because the pressure was not enough to shut down the carotid arteries which bring blood into the head.)
So basically blood was coming in, but not going out. Immediately stopped. Very uncomfortable. It is that "head will explode" feeling.
I have found that for me it is best to just apply hard pressure as quickly as possible instead of slow and steady.
Conclusion
Combining all the things I have learned, I have found a way to quickly pass out from partial-suspension-hanging with minimal discomfort. Which is of course the desired scenario with this method.
However, some things work for some, while others work fot others. There is so much difference between neck muscles, neck fat, neck anatomy, personal tolerance to certain things....
So this information may not apply to you. Take it with a grain of salt. I just had to share my experiments with the community since I owe it to a lot of people here, and to the people who I learned from.
Hyperventilating for a bit before doing it also made me pass out quicker. Checks out with the experiences of others. Definetely a +.
I believe using alcohol to get very drunk and using a slipknot to make a noose will make this method pretty much painless and discomfortless, at least physically.
Thanks for reading. I finally made the post..
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