Moral Support or Morale? With Goodbyes

[Csmith8827]

I think goodbye threads are good but I don't think they provide enough emotional/mental support through the CTB process. I've specifically referring to like SN type of exits. I believe we should have almost like chats or something devoted to when that individual is passing. I've been in the chat before with @rem2024 (I'm pretty sure that's the username) when they CTB and aside from basically saying good luck and goodbye etc...safe travels etc...there was really no moral/morale support. Chat returned or continued with it's normal conversation as if nothing had occurred.

I found this gravely insensitive and I feel like goodbye threads aren't enough support either. We need people there in the present tense to see these people and be with them to hold there hands until the final moment of them loosing consciousness so they know they don't have to die alone. They can be chatting with us during the whole process and we can be giving them our full undivided attention. That is how I would want my CTB to be and given the right meds (propanol? Meto, etc...) I think perhaps I could CTB with this type of support network.

Anyone else agree or understand where I'm coming from with this? I've gotta head to work but I was thinking about what would make it easier for me to CTB and this is what came to mind.

Thoughts? We could even have a scheduled chatroom open even just to see that person off on there departure, being totally devoted to there passing. Almost like a funeral kinda, in the sense that it's a gathering, but that individual doesn't pass away alone.

I remember in Donnie Darko this woman says "Every living thing dies alone." I don't think it has to be that way at all and I think we can use technology as a means to change that. We can provide support and get these people through these final excruciating moments. Myself included.

Thoughts?

 

[Light_]

I need someone to help me. no one will. they just watch. spectate the atrocity. they think they are killing who I was and that only lives in their memory, but they can't help me. even though I am physically unable to kill myself now. I don't know what to do. if anyone can help me, please I need it. I have the methods, I just need someone to get the needle in my arm, I can do the push, I just can't get the needle in. this is serious. I need help. please my God. help me.

 

[rozeske]

It can be nice in theory but practically, making GTs any more than they already are could potentially give the site bad name than it already is getting. What kind of more support do you mean? and in what way would it make it easier to ctb? I don't know.....that by itself I think could be a recipe for disaster. The usual well wishes on GTs already attracts enough attention, I can already imagine what the "making it easy" ones would do.

 

[Light_]

It can be nice in theory but practically, making GTs any more than they already are could potentially give the site bad name than it already is getting. What kind of more support do you mean? and in what way would it make it easier to ctb? I don't know.....that by itself I think could be a recipe for disaster. The usual well wishes on GTs already attracts enough attention, I can already imagine what the "making it easy" ones would do.

This is true people are afraid to say anything that sounds like they're supporting someone killing themselves. It's a fine line and we all know it. Every goodbye thread for people who have no choice, I want to say how lucky and how much I envy that they can physically do it for themselves. I want to say much support but I can't. I want to tell them they're brave and they're doing the right thing and I understand but I can't.

 

[null_blank]

This is true people are afraid to say anything that sounds like they're supporting someone killing themselves. It's a fine line and we all know it. Every goodbye thread for people who have no choice, I want to say how lucky and how much I envy that they can physically do it for themselves. I want to say much support but I can't. I want to tell them they're brave and they're doing the right thing and I understand but I can't.

Strong agree here. I feel this special place is on thin enough ice without any "death cult cheerleading chat" as some would certainly call it.

 

[Gangrel]

That would amazing in an ideal world but sadly this is not that world, there's a thin line between legality here. For most people doing nothing while someone ctb is already a crime in itself. Not to talk about the confliting feelings, deep down we are also sad to see our "friends" here ctb, there's simply nothing we can do.

 

[andreamysk]

It could be something external to SaSu, maybe a chat on telegram, to be communicated PM...

 

[Csmith8827]

It could be something external to SaSu, maybe a chat on telegram, to be communicated PM...

I've heard of telegram but never actually used it before...I guess that might work...