Help Method: Salt overdose (Hypernatremia)

[KitKat456]

After trying the tourniquet method and partial hanging, I found that it doesn't work for me because I don't know how to effectively compress my carotids. I've read up on a lot of different methods, but I think salt overdose sounds like a good one. Cardiac arrest, seizures, coma, and then death will result from this method if done properly. I want to take a salt dose that is much higher than the lethal dose so that death will hopefully be guaranteed. I think I'll dissolve about 600 g of salt in about 1.5 liters of water. Over the next few weeks, I'll practice chugging 1.5 liters of regular water just to get my stomach used to the feeling of so much liquid. Now, the big problem with this method is avoiding vomiting (the strong taste of salt will induce vomiting). Do you guys have any ideas on how to avoid vomiting with this method? I will do some experiments on how to protect my taste buds from the salt...I'll try saran-wrapping my tongue with some toothpaste, maybe even try rolling a flavored condom on my tongue to see if that will mask a strong salty taste. You guys have any other ideas for experiments?

 

[Superfluous]

Not sure how reliable the information is, but it sounds convincing:

Why does drinking salt water make you feel sick? | Naked Science Forum

Thanks to Pauls sick thread (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6915.new#new) he has reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask...

www.thenakedscientists.com

 

[KitKat456]

Salt overdose -> water fills and extends stomach -> vomit reflex seems to be the main reason why people vomit. I think that I'll limit the amount of salt solution I drink so that even if my stomach distends, I have less liklihood of vomitting. I'm thinking of mixing 300 grams of salt in 800 mL of water (this is the absolute minimum liquid required as salt solubility is 38 g/100 mL). From literature I read, anything over 25 grams of salt could be fatal for adults. I'm not too concerned about vomitting and not being able to overdose because a lot of the times when people died of hypernatremia, it was because they were given a concentrated salt solution to drink in order to induce vomitting/save them from a different drug overdose. So ironic lol.

I did an experiment drinking some concentrated salt solution (less than 100 mL) and I didn't feel like vomitting. I think this could be a viable method for me. Only issue with this method is that it could potentially take some time between overdose and death, and I could be rescued and brought to the hospital.

 

[any%]

I wish you good luck, but do not underestimate your body. 100 ml of a salty solution is nothing to worry about, but if you want to ingest ~ 1 L of a saturated salt solution you will be puking 100% or your body is severely malfunctioning.

To mask the taste I recommend to clip up your nose completely, you wont taste something until you breath through your nose again after you are done drinking. You could try with normal antiemetics like meto. But I would say let this go, it is kind of a wasted attempt most likely. Maybe go with SN, relatively cheap as well.

In any case my thoughts go out to you, rest easy.

 

[fister]

Look on youtube - chubbyemu has posted a case history about a woman who tried to "cleanse" by drinking a liter of soy sauce.

 

[AngelGirl]

Look on youtube - chubbyemu has posted a case history about a woman who tried to "cleanse" by drinking a liter of soy sauce.

Heh, I actually saw that one. I felt really bad for the woman. I believe she had some kind of mental illness.

 

[Monster]

You could use less water but it wouldn't be totally dissolved, which means that it isn't the same smoothness as water, which isn't a problem for some people but would be a bigger problem for other people.

 

[Halo13]

After trying the tourniquet method and partial hanging, I found that it doesn't work for me because I don't know how to effectively compress my carotids. I've read up on a lot of different methods, but I think salt overdose sounds like a good one. Cardiac arrest, seizures, coma, and then death will result from this method if done properly. I want to take a salt dose that is much higher than the lethal dose so that death will hopefully be guaranteed. I think I'll dissolve about 600 g of salt in about 1.5 liters of water. Over the next few weeks, I'll practice chugging 1.5 liters of regular water just to get my stomach used to the feeling of so much liquid. Now, the big problem with this method is avoiding vomiting (the strong taste of salt will induce vomiting). Do you guys have any ideas on how to avoid vomiting with this method? I will do some experiments on how to protect my taste buds from the salt...I'll try saran-wrapping my tongue with some toothpaste, maybe even try rolling a flavored condom on my tongue to see if that will mask a strong salty taste. You guys have any other ideas for experiments?

I found several pictures that have labels for your taste buds on your tongue. The pictures vary however the "salt" area is generally the same in each one. I can't see covering your tongue in a condom working because between the salt taste and condom seems like it'd just set off the urge to puke more.

Either way, I am extremely skeptical if this would work, especially not knowing how long it takes after ingestion til death. I wish you luck regardless.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Heh, I actually saw that one. I felt really bad for the woman. I believe she had some kind of mental illness.

Did they ever say how painful it was?

 

[squirtsoda]

There have been deaths at around 7g of sodium. 7g of sodium is not 7g of table salt, salt is composed of sodium and chlorine (and maybe a tiny amount of iodine, but I'm talking about the NaCl part). I think salt is ~2/3 sodium by weight. From what I've seen sodium overdose (a lot of people do it via soy sauce, you get a big bang for your buck with the liquid volume and not creating a "flush") it would be very painful and causes seizures.

 

[k75]

I like soy sauce, but this is not a way I'd like to go...

Man dared to drink quart of soy sauce almost dies from salt poisoning

Having too much salt in the body, called hypernatremia, causes the brain to lose water, which leads to shrinkage and bleeding

www.cbsnews.com

Fatal hypernatremia due to drinking a large quantity of shoyu (Japanese soy sauce) - PubMed

We report a case of fatal salt poisoning in a 55-year-old woman who suffered from depression and drank a large quantity of shoyu (Japanese soy sauce). She presented with the highest ever documented serum sodium level of 187 mmol/L. This was associated with symptoms of cerebral damage which...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A woman went brain-dead after trying a soy-sauce cleanse that recommended drinking a liter in a 2-hour period

After trying a soy-sauce cleanse, a woman was diagnosed with severe nerve damage. The incident proves how dangerous fad cleanses can be.

www.insider.com

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

There have been deaths at around 7g of sodium. 7g of sodium is not 7g of table salt, salt is composed of sodium and chlorine (and maybe a tiny amount of iodine, but I'm talking about the NaCl part). I think salt is ~2/3 sodium by weight. From what I've seen sodium overdose (a lot of people do it via soy sauce, you get a big bang for your buck with the liquid volume and not creating a "flush") it would be very painful and causes seizures.

Besides the seizures would it be painful in any other ways?

Do seizures really hurt that bad? I've involuntarily violently shaked a few times but idk if that approximates a seizure

If you were on a bed or some other soft surface like that I could see it potentially not hurting that much

 

[squirtsoda]

That wouldn't be a seizure most likely. I'm not a seizure expert but I've had 3, and they hurt afterwards.
Brain shrinkage would probably be one of the worst headaches you could ever imagine, like maybe past real migraine territory. When you have a bad hangover, that is actually very minor brain shrinkage, that is what the headache comes from. Your stomach would be burning, but it would not be a high level of pain. Your whole body would feel very weird and possibly painful from the water being extracted from your neurons. You would probably lose your ability to see while you were still conscious. There are a litany of other symptoms possible from hypernatremia. The bad part is you will stay conscious for a long time, most likely.

 

[k75]

Besides the seizures would it be painful in any other ways?

Do seizures really hurt that bad? I've involuntarily violently shaked a few times but idk if that approximates a seizure

If you were on a bed or some other soft surface like that I could see it potentially not hurting that much

It says it can cause cardiac arrest, nerve damage, paralysis, brain damage... A heart attack is definitely painful. This idea sounds more likely to make your life much worse than it might already be. Not something worth playing around with.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

It says it can cause cardiac arrest, nerve damage, paralysis, brain damage... A heart attack is definitely painful. This idea sounds more likely to make your life much worse than it might already be. Not something worth playing around with.

Ideally you wouldn't be caught

But yeah that was just knowledge for if I was ever in a desperate situation with no alternative and a lot of time where I wouldn't be noticed

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

It just seems like way too much water. If it were me, I wouldn't use more than 100 ml of water.

Have you tested to see if drinking a small amount of salt water will induce vomiting? I tested a sip of 25 g sea salt in 50 ml water, no vomiting but other similar symptoms to SN. I flushed with water and electrolytes and recovered pretty quickly, I have a detailed journal here on SS about it. Not recommending you test as I did, just throwing ideas out there.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

It just seems like way too much water. If it were me, I wouldn't use more than 100 ml of water.

Have you tested to see if drinking a small amount of salt water will induce vomiting? I tested a sip of 25 g sea salt in 50 ml water, no vomiting but other similar symptoms to SN. I flushed with water and electrolytes and recovered pretty quickly, I have a detailed journal here on SS about it. Not recommending you test as I did, just throwing ideas out there.

I felt fine after 25g of salt in 50ml water the other day personally

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I felt fine after 25g of salt in 50ml water the other day personally

I did that and puked. It had an awful taste. Too salty. But I didn't take any AE.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

I did that and puked. It was an awful taste. Didn't take any AE.

I didn't think it was that bad

First sip (before just downing it) was wildly salty though

Edit: Wait, I had two teaspoons, is that actually around 25g? That's what this board made it seem like, but this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5537768/ says that 25g of table salt is like 4 tablespoons

That's apparently the lethal amount (I have no clue what the most relatively painless amount would be)

 

[Ghost2211]

You can buy salt in 1g tablets. I take one a day for low blood pressure. They start Dissolving before swallowed, so I assume they break down fast in the stomach.

This would be an awful way to die.

 

[paroxyical]

After trying the tourniquet method and partial hanging, I found that it doesn't work for me because I don't know how to effectively compress my carotids. I've read up on a lot of different methods, but I think salt overdose sounds like a good one. Cardiac arrest, seizures, coma, and then death will result from this method if done properly. I want to take a salt dose that is much higher than the lethal dose so that death will hopefully be guaranteed. I think I'll dissolve about 600 g of salt in about 1.5 liters of water. Over the next few weeks, I'll practice chugging 1.5 liters of regular water just to get my stomach used to the feeling of so much liquid. Now, the big problem with this method is avoiding vomiting (the strong taste of salt will induce vomiting). Do you guys have any ideas on how to avoid vomiting with this method? I will do some experiments on how to protect my taste buds from the salt...I'll try saran-wrapping my tongue with some toothpaste, maybe even try rolling a flavored condom on my tongue to see if that will mask a strong salty taste. You guys have any other ideas for experiments?

People use a regime of antiemetics and antacids for SN... surely could work similarly for salt?

 

[squirtsoda]

Yeah I have those salt tablets too for POTS, and if I'm working outside in the summer I take more than I'm probably supposed to, and while on an empty stomach, and I can feel it burning. Definitely not what I'd describe as pain but some people might.

 

[S1mpleme]

After trying the tourniquet method and partial hanging, I found that it doesn't work for me because I don't know how to effectively compress my carotids. I've read up on a lot of different methods, but I think salt overdose sounds like a good one. Cardiac arrest, seizures, coma, and then death will result from this method if done properly. I want to take a salt dose that is much higher than the lethal dose so that death will hopefully be guaranteed. I think I'll dissolve about 600 g of salt in about 1.5 liters of water. Over the next few weeks, I'll practice chugging 1.5 liters of regular water just to get my stomach used to the feeling of so much liquid. Now, the big problem with this method is avoiding vomiting (the strong taste of salt will induce vomiting). Do you guys have any ideas on how to avoid vomiting with this method? I will do some experiments on how to protect my taste buds from the salt...I'll try saran-wrapping my tongue with some toothpaste, maybe even try rolling a flavored condom on my tongue to see if that will mask a strong salty taste. You guys have any other ideas for experiments?

To be honest I could bet 1000$ that you won't drink 600g of salt. People in here can't even drink like 20g of SN, which is salt. Sincerely I wish you to find a peaceful way to CTB or just happiness in your life.

 

[LMLN]

I think you will vomit before you can attain death. You would likely have permanent brain damage in the end. Do not recommend this method.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Yeah I have those salt tablets too for POTS, and if I'm working outside in the summer I take more than I'm probably supposed to, and while on an empty stomach, and I can feel it burning. Definitely not what I'd describe as pain but some people might.

What would happen if you took SN on a somewhat-filled stomach? Would it hurt less?

Or is it like it hurts less but it takes longer to go unconscious?

I guess no one knows

 

[LMLN]

What would happen if you took SN on a somewhat-filled stomach? Would it hurt less?

Or is it like it hurts less but it takes longer to go unconscious?

I guess no one knows

I think if you have something in your stomach, the SN will just take longer to absorb. That will just extend any suffering.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

I think you will vomit before you can attain death. You would likely have permanent brain damage in the end. Do not recommend this method.

That might be true

Apparently in Asia it happens sometimes though--which doesn't necessarily indicate if that means it's somewhat painless or excruciating

The college kid who drank a quart of soy sauce apparently started seizing pretty quick and then fell into a coma (they weren't explicit to what degree the paramedics helped induce it)

They weren't clear on how much pain he had

The one article about a blogger girl had a doctor say that "there's no way a normal person should have been able to choke that down", and then there was a vague article about a middle-aged woman in Japan that committed suicide with soy sauce but they didn't describe the pain

I think if you have something in your stomach, the SN will just take longer to absorb. That will just extend any suffering.

Maybe the other pills will just have to mitigate the experience of the empty stomach

I wish we didn't have to worry so much about the specifics and could just pass on (Sodium Nitrite seems a lot simpler than very many other things though)

 

[1DayItWillBover]

slightly off topic but i drank salt water in hopes of just throwing up.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

slightly off topic but i drank salt water in hopes of just throwing up.

What happened? What amount/concentration?

 

[Fthis]

Is this method loud? If not I don't care about the pain, I'm ending it right here right now.