200_ponies

200_ponies

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Apr 8, 2019
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Hello everyone:

I am in the process of applying for a FOID card and then purchasing a Mossberg 500 shotgun (supposedly a really decent, affordable, reliable home defense shotgun) to ctb with. I plan to take a firearms safety class before I actually use the shotgun so that I don't mess anything up when the time comes.

However, I am worried that somehow I might twitch and misfire or hit the wrong part of my brain/spine and end up a vegetable, but still alive. Therefore I want to combine my method with another method to ensure a near 100% success chance. I want to try once and only once, and succeed at it.

So what are some good methods I could do in combination with a shotgun to the head? I considered somehow using inert gas asphyxiation as well, but I'm not sure how that would even work. Do you guys have any ideas for simple methods to use? They don't necessarily have to be painless methods, since I will be shooting myself and hopefully going unconscious before any real agony sets in.

My only stipulation is that I'm not sure how to use the darkweb at all and therefore don't know how I would get my hands on something like N.

Thanks for any help or ideas!
 
SearchForPeace

SearchForPeace

Soo much agony. Little reward. Give me Peace.
Apr 11, 2019
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If you really want to be sure, lean from a high building/bridge/cliff etc. and use the shotgun. May you find peace.
 
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200_ponies

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If you really want to be sure, lean from a high building/bridge/cliff etc. and use the shotgun. May you find peace.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll have to see if there are any places where that'd be safe for me to do. Jumping would probably do the trick but I worry about the shotgun falling and hurting someone somehow.
 
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suffering

suffering

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Aug 17, 2018
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Or be ready for full suspension hanging, by sitting on a chair with your head in a noose before pulling the trigger. Or drink N right before shooting yourself. I hope you find peace.
 
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Roadkill

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My preferred combination would be drinking Sodium Azide, then a few seconds later shooting myself in the head with the shotgun... The SA would insure death even if the shotgun failed
 
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TAW122

TAW122

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Shotgun in the middle of an open body of water (lake, river, ocean, pond) etc. would be sufficient too. The thing is you would be unconscious or dead and in the event that you aren't dead (meaning failed attempt with the shotgun), then you would die of drowning.
 
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Thanks everyone for the help and responses.

I think full suspension hanging might be the simplest option for me, although I checked around and it looks like sodium azide is really simple to buy, and it's very effective. I'll keep both in mind and then see what I can set up best when my FOID card arrives.


Also, this is slightly off-topic but where is a good place to shoot yourself?

I can't do it at home since I have roommates and I worry that I would be found too quickly at a hotel. Should I find a quiet place to park my car and shoot myself there?
 
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JadedGray

JadedGray

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Jul 24, 2018
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You would have to be careful since trying any other method could affect your ability to shoot. You wouldn't want to involuntarily move trying another method while also trying to shoot yourself and end up worse than how you started. A gun is more than enough if you shoot in the proper place. Trying another method alongside it would just be overkill or an accident waiting to happen.

It would be fine doing it in your car or in a wooded area somewhere, since it's quick and there's no chance of being interrupted.
 
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spanishguy22

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Apr 9, 2019
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You would have to be careful since trying any other method could affect your ability to shoot. You wouldn't want to involuntarily move trying another method while also trying to shoot yourself and end up worse than how you started. A gun is more than enough if you shoot in the proper place. Trying another method alongside it would just be overkill or an accident waiting to happen.

It would be fine doing it in your car or in a wooded area somewhere, since it's quick and there's no chance of being interrupted.
Is SA so quick to act that 20 seconds after drinking it you would start twitching? Unable to aim?
 
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Is SA so quick to act that 20 seconds after drinking it you would start twitching? Unable to aim?

The PPeH says that death is rapid upon consumption and that it can cause seizures. So I wouldn't chance it.
 
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Sorry for the long delay between posts; life has been getting in the way (ironically).

Thanks for the replies @JadedGray and @spanishguy22! I have decided I'll ctb in my car after all. That way my loved ones or hotel cleaning staff won't have to find me like that.

And JadedGray, your post about affecting my shooting ability is a really good point that I hadn't considered at all for some reason. I've been doing lots of research on locating and properly aiming at the Medulla Oblongada so I'm actually feeling better about my chances with just using a shotgun. I think once I actually get the gun and can practice aiming and take a couple classes I'll be feeling more confident, too.

I can't tell you guys how much I appreciate your insights. I'll be sure to update you all about my FOID card and how it goes purchasing the shotgun, just in case someone else is planning on doing the same.
 
JadedGray

JadedGray

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Jul 24, 2018
991
Sorry for the long delay between posts; life has been getting in the way (ironically).

Thanks for the replies @JadedGray and @spanishguy22! I have decided I'll ctb in my car after all. That way my loved ones or hotel cleaning staff won't have to find me like that.

And JadedGray, your post about affecting my shooting ability is a really good point that I hadn't considered at all for some reason. I've been doing lots of research on locating and properly aiming at the Medulla Oblongada so I'm actually feeling better about my chances with just using a shotgun. I think once I actually get the gun and can practice aiming and take a couple classes I'll be feeling more confident, too.

I can't tell you guys how much I appreciate your insights. I'll be sure to update you all about my FOID card and how it goes purchasing the shotgun, just in case someone else is planning on doing the same.

Good luck. It sounds like you've got a good plan.
 
TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,813
Sorry for the long delay between posts; life has been getting in the way (ironically).

Thanks for the replies @JadedGray and @spanishguy22! I have decided I'll ctb in my car after all. That way my loved ones or hotel cleaning staff won't have to find me like that.

And JadedGray, your post about affecting my shooting ability is a really good point that I hadn't considered at all for some reason. I've been doing lots of research on locating and properly aiming at the Medulla Oblongada so I'm actually feeling better about my chances with just using a shotgun. I think once I actually get the gun and can practice aiming and take a couple classes I'll be feeling more confident, too.

I can't tell you guys how much I appreciate your insights. I'll be sure to update you all about my FOID card and how it goes purchasing the shotgun, just in case someone else is planning on doing the same.
Yes, CTB'ing in a car/vehicle is a good way to contain the mess and my additional recommendation is to do it at night and also in a secluded place, where you will less likely be found too soon or interrupted.
 
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spanishguy22

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My preferred combination would be drinking Sodium Azide, then a few seconds later shooting myself in the head with the shotgun... The SA would insure death even if the shotgun failed
This is my main method. Although I'm between head and chest.
 
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ReadyToMeetMyMaker

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Oct 30, 2019
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I am also planning to use a 12 gauge shotgun with 00 or #1 buckshot shells to ctb. I haven't decided on which gun? I have narrowed it down to three: https://www.greentophuntfish.com/stoeger-m3000-defense-shotgun-black-synthetic-12ga-18-5/ , https://www.mossberg.com/product/930-thunder-ranch-85331/ or https://www.mossberg.com/product/maverick-88-security-w-top-folding-stock-31027/. I really like the semi-auto options because maybe I can get two shots off. However, the pump-action shotgun is more reliable. Thoughts? As far as ammo I am considering between 00 buckshot https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002089020/ or #1 buckshot https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900293644/ . I would love some input here. I just want to make sure I have the best chance of hitting my brain stem.

Additionally, I plan on driving to a small town where the closest hospital is at least 30 minutes away. I also plan to take a ton of aspirin and caffeine to thin my blood, then place the shotgun in my mouth and aim towards my brainstem. I am hoping that if I miss my brain stem I will just bleed to death. Any thoughts?
 
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Pykul

Pykul

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Sep 22, 2019
88
Hello everyone:

I am in the process of applying for a FOID card and then purchasing a Mossberg 500 shotgun (supposedly a really decent, affordable, reliable home defense shotgun) to ctb with. I plan to take a firearms safety class before I actually use the shotgun so that I don't mess anything up when the time comes.

However, I am worried that somehow I might twitch and misfire or hit the wrong part of my brain/spine and end up a vegetable, but still alive. Therefore I want to combine my method with another method to ensure a near 100% success chance. I want to try once and only once, and succeed at it.

So what are some good methods I could do in combination with a shotgun to the head? I considered somehow using inert gas asphyxiation as well, but I'm not sure how that would even work. Do you guys have any ideas for simple methods to use? They don't necessarily have to be painless methods, since I will be shooting myself and hopefully going unconscious before any real agony sets in.

My only stipulation is that I'm not sure how to use the darkweb at all and therefore don't know how I would get my hands on something like N.

Thanks for any help or ideas!
Put the end of the barrel in your mouth, not under your chin. That will aim the gun towards the back of your throat (and hindbrain) instead of the ceiling. Will also prevent flinching that could lead to facial transplants. Best Gore has great bids and pics of each method that will demonstrate what I said. Nothing else need be used. Quick, efficient, messy but why care? You won't be cleaning it up.
Myself, I can't afford a gun, so I am building a slamfire from plumbing supplies. 1" and 3/4" pipe.
 
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*KNAZ*

*KNAZ*

The only way out is through
Oct 23, 2019
210
Paramedics have always said to shoot directly into back of throat and not upwards into roof of mouth or sideways to temple. The blast to back of mouth takes out the part of the brain that controls heart, lungs etc.

With the other directions it can leave you disfigured or in a vegetative state.
 

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