bluegodism
the rose is blue 🌹💙
- Nov 26, 2023
- 108
i'm thinking of this not as my main method but as my second option. if i take on average 100g of metformin (+/- 200 tablets) do i have a chance of dying? i weigh 220 pounds and 160cm
LapseInTime
Top-notch parasite.
- Sep 4, 2024
- 103
I'd used to swallow entire packets of it to lose weight, best you're getting is diarrhea.
SomewhatLoved
Bringing out the Dead and Searching for the Living
- Apr 12, 2023
- 145
I would not advise this method, and to my knowledge it would have a low likelihood of working.
I work in healthcare. I remember in school hearing about anti-hyperglycemic agent (i.e. insulin, metformin, semaglutide, diabeta, etc) overdoses and being somewhat shocked, as it never occurred to me that people might try to kill themselves this way. However, since then, I have seen it first-hand. If you read medical textbooks which discuss cardiac arrest and resuscitation, you will likely read about reversible causes of cardiac arrest. These are often called the "H's and T's", as they all start with those letters. They are things we as emergency healthcare providers look for and attempt to reverse to bring someone back to life. Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) is one of them. Essentially everything in your body runs on sugar (glucose), so if you get rid of all of it stuff (including the brain and heart) inevitably shuts down, and can cause cardiac arrest and death.
When I experienced it first-hand, the patient had type 1 diabetes mellitus and was living at home with their parents. In the evening after dinner, they had taken their entire insulin supply and injected it and their parents eventually found them in bed unresponsive and unable to wake up. Many people don't realize this but insulin is actually a very dangerous medication, and paramedics do not even carry it on the ambulance in my jurisdiction to treat patients with high blood sugar (hyperglycemia), as it is too dangerous and only doctors are able to administer it. Anyways, they had taken their entire supply of insulin (way more than their regular dose, and from what I saw almost definitely enough to kill them). The paramedics started an IV and started administering an IV solution containing lots of glucose. This is the normal protocol for patients who are hypoglycemic, and is usually extremely effective as the majority of our patients experiencing this emergency simply forgot to eat, did too much exercise, or took their regular insulin dose without a meal and then forgot to eat to maintain balance. These patients usually shoot right back up as soon as we give sugar, and often don't even require transport to the hospital unless they wish to be further assessed by a doctor, or if they are not already diagnosed/had symptoms which they had never experienced before. This case was different though, as the amount of insulin they had taken was so high that it would chew right through the sugar and eventually the paramedics who brought them in hit the max dose and had to call a doctor to get approval to administer more beyond the standard protocol. Their initial blood sugar was something like 1 mmol/L (approximately 18mg/dL), and for the life of us we could not get it to go much higher with sugar for quite some time. They were eventually ok as we caught it early, but it definitely could have been fatal
This story probably makes it seem like a good method. However, there is a big difference between injected insulin and oral diabetic medications like metformin. They are much slower acting. They also suffer all the same faults as other methods which involve taking enteral (i.e. oral) medications. Whenever people take pills in any large amount, their body tends to realize that something is up and tries to get rid of it. Same idea as why people vomit when they drink a lot of alcohol at once. This is one of the main reasons oral drug overdose is often such a poor method even with medications that are known to be dangerous, like benzodiazepines or tricyclic antidepressants. The odds of death are often still low as the body usually is able to get rid of them before they can even take effect. I feel the only oral medications I would ever consider as a suicide method would be a barbiturate like nembutal/pentobarbital, as barbiturates are some of the most dangerous medications out there. The issue though is that doctors realize this and almost never prescribe them anymore (I don't think I've ever had a patient who was prescribed barbiturates, they fell out of favour a long time ago). However, even with that I would be hesitant and may try to consider a different method that did not involve oral meds.
I work in healthcare. I remember in school hearing about anti-hyperglycemic agent (i.e. insulin, metformin, semaglutide, diabeta, etc) overdoses and being somewhat shocked, as it never occurred to me that people might try to kill themselves this way. However, since then, I have seen it first-hand. If you read medical textbooks which discuss cardiac arrest and resuscitation, you will likely read about reversible causes of cardiac arrest. These are often called the "H's and T's", as they all start with those letters. They are things we as emergency healthcare providers look for and attempt to reverse to bring someone back to life. Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) is one of them. Essentially everything in your body runs on sugar (glucose), so if you get rid of all of it stuff (including the brain and heart) inevitably shuts down, and can cause cardiac arrest and death.
When I experienced it first-hand, the patient had type 1 diabetes mellitus and was living at home with their parents. In the evening after dinner, they had taken their entire insulin supply and injected it and their parents eventually found them in bed unresponsive and unable to wake up. Many people don't realize this but insulin is actually a very dangerous medication, and paramedics do not even carry it on the ambulance in my jurisdiction to treat patients with high blood sugar (hyperglycemia), as it is too dangerous and only doctors are able to administer it. Anyways, they had taken their entire supply of insulin (way more than their regular dose, and from what I saw almost definitely enough to kill them). The paramedics started an IV and started administering an IV solution containing lots of glucose. This is the normal protocol for patients who are hypoglycemic, and is usually extremely effective as the majority of our patients experiencing this emergency simply forgot to eat, did too much exercise, or took their regular insulin dose without a meal and then forgot to eat to maintain balance. These patients usually shoot right back up as soon as we give sugar, and often don't even require transport to the hospital unless they wish to be further assessed by a doctor, or if they are not already diagnosed/had symptoms which they had never experienced before. This case was different though, as the amount of insulin they had taken was so high that it would chew right through the sugar and eventually the paramedics who brought them in hit the max dose and had to call a doctor to get approval to administer more beyond the standard protocol. Their initial blood sugar was something like 1 mmol/L (approximately 18mg/dL), and for the life of us we could not get it to go much higher with sugar for quite some time. They were eventually ok as we caught it early, but it definitely could have been fatal
This story probably makes it seem like a good method. However, there is a big difference between injected insulin and oral diabetic medications like metformin. They are much slower acting. They also suffer all the same faults as other methods which involve taking enteral (i.e. oral) medications. Whenever people take pills in any large amount, their body tends to realize that something is up and tries to get rid of it. Same idea as why people vomit when they drink a lot of alcohol at once. This is one of the main reasons oral drug overdose is often such a poor method even with medications that are known to be dangerous, like benzodiazepines or tricyclic antidepressants. The odds of death are often still low as the body usually is able to get rid of them before they can even take effect. I feel the only oral medications I would ever consider as a suicide method would be a barbiturate like nembutal/pentobarbital, as barbiturates are some of the most dangerous medications out there. The issue though is that doctors realize this and almost never prescribe them anymore (I don't think I've ever had a patient who was prescribed barbiturates, they fell out of favour a long time ago). However, even with that I would be hesitant and may try to consider a different method that did not involve oral meds.
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