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Kingkelly

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Has anyone successfully CBT on 1,bottle?
 
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PPeH lists 2 email addresses for A. Does anybody know which one to use? 1st or 2nd? Thanks.
 
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PPeH lists 2 email addresses for A. Does anybody know which one to use? 1st or 2nd? Thanks.

I had the second some other people the first. Just pick one
 
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OkTotti

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So it sounds like the only safe payment to A. is with Bitcoin? if anyone has success with other methods than bitcoin, please let us know
 
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Some tips for coping with bitter tastes..
Suck on an ice cube or ice pop before taking the medicine. This will numb your mouth and make it harder to taste. With your mouth numbed, you can swallow the medicine before getting too much of a bitter taste.
Suck on either an ice cube or ice pop until your mouth is numb- probably around five minutes. Then drink your medicine quickly before you regain feeling in your mouth.

Plug your nostrils. Your taste buds only recognize five tastes: sweet, salty, bitter, sour, and savory ("Umami"). ...
Dry out your mouth. Your taste is all about saliva. ...cream crackers will do this.
Very useful, thank you!
PPeH lists 2 email addresses for A. Does anybody know which one to use? 1st or 2nd? Thanks.
They are aliases to the same mailbox. Protonmail do this deliberately to prevent phishing.
 
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Arak

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@Chinaski ,

Hey, you´re back ; )

Since you´ve investigated N very well, this question for you : people complain of the bitter taste of N. Dignitas´ N is bitter, as I understand. The venterinary N from A is supposed to be even more bitter. My main issue is that I don´t want to vomit.

I don´t know how effective meto will be, and I have a messed up CNS. So I´m not even sure it would work well. I was thinking of a combination of meto (10-15 mg) and domperidone (which I can tolerate easily). Do you think you have to take extra precautions for the veterinary N ?
 
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From what l understand the Dignitas stuff tastes stronger than the vet stuff - but there is less of it to drink, so obviously less time for it to bother you. Dignitas advise their clients to do it in two gulps, l suspect this is because the aftertaste is strong and the quicker it's down, the quicker it can be countered with chocolate.

I'm no expert here but l understand also that the meto prevents the stomach rejecting it but won't prevent a gag reflex action over a bad taste, for example if you took meto and then an hour later put your fingers down your throat, you'd still vomit. So you're looking at two different things here - vomiting because your stomach wants rid of a poison, and vomiting through gagging at taste foulness.

I couldn't direct anyone on anti emetic alternatives to meto tbh, as I've only done the research required for myself. But whichever one you use it won't prevent you from gagging if you dwell on the taste; the taste is unpleasant but, like any vaccine, laxative drink or even MDMA, it's *only* a taste, and it's the *aftertaste* which is the killer, so if you get it down you quickly enough to counteract the aftertaste you'll very probably not gag at all.
 
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Anima

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does anyone know how the chances are in Germany? I am not quite sure what could happen if the parcel was checked by customs?
 
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Tidus

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does anyone know how the chances are in Germany? I am not quite sure what could happen if the parcel was checked by customs?
A lists Germany as a "problematic Country with strict customs". But he also states, that he has delivered successfully to Germany.
 
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Anima

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A lists Germany as a "problematic Country with strict customs". But he also states, that he has delivered successfully to Germany.

Thank you so much for the quick reply! I thought so :( it might be worth a try but then again I am wondering if things will get worse if I get caught. Have yet to find out what the actual consequences would be ....
 
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Tidus

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Thank you so much for the quick reply! I thought so :( it might be worth a try but then again I am wondering if things will get worse if I get caught. Have yet to find out what the actual consequences would be ....
would like to know this, too.
When you got more information about, keep me updated Anima (PM)
Thanks in advance
 
Goldenwolf

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I know this may sound stupid, but what is N?
 
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Does anybody know which European country is the easiest for obtaining N. I'm thinking of ordering "poste restante" to some country and traveling there when a package will arrive.
 
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furax53

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Nov 13, 2018
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Does anybody know which European country is the easiest for obtaining N. I'm thinking of ordering "poste restante" to some country and traveling there when a package will arrive.
in france from what I understood no delivery problems
 
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You could use a straw to bypass your tongue - it should help.
I think using a straw could be a good idea if you first spray your tongue and throat really good with something like chloraseptic spray and then swallow the stuff. It might numb everything just long enough to drink the n without getting the full taste of the stuff.
 
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ddutch

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Does anybody know which European country is the easiest for obtaining N. I'm thinking of ordering "poste restante" to some country and traveling there when a package will arrive.

Europe as a whole is easy only poland is hard to get it.
 
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Johnnythefox

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Europe as a whole is easy only poland is hard to get it.
So it's no problem for the UK? I only ask because I asked this already and no one replied.
 
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ddutch

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So it's no problem for the UK? I only ask because I asked this already and no one replied.


Of what i have heard it can be done people have it. But few years ago like it says in the book people got caught.but that happen everywhere. I ordered and got it i am in holland.
 
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ddutch

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From what l understand the Dignitas stuff tastes stronger than the vet stuff - but there is less of it to drink, so obviously less time for it to bother you. Dignitas advise their clients to do it in two gulps, l suspect this is because the aftertaste is strong and the quicker it's down, the quicker it can be countered with chocolate.

I'm no expert here but l understand also that the meto prevents the stomach rejecting it but won't prevent a gag reflex action over a bad taste, for example if you took meto and then an hour later put your fingers down your throat, you'd still vomit. So you're looking at two different things here - vomiting because your stomach wants rid of a poison, and vomiting through gagging at taste foulness.

I couldn't direct anyone on anti emetic alternatives to meto tbh, as I've only done the research required for myself. But whichever one you use it won't prevent you from gagging if you dwell on the taste; the taste is unpleasant but, like any vaccine, laxative drink or even MDMA, it's *only* a taste, and it's the *aftertaste* which is the killer, so if you get it down you quickly enough to counteract the aftertaste you'll very probably not gag at all.

The aftertaste indeed is the killer.
I did test it with a few ml, endid up vomiting and after that whent to bed and dont remember falling asleep.

I think drinking and honey is the best option with meto included.
 
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The aftertaste indeed is the killer.
I did test it with a few ml, endid up vomiting and after that whent to bed and dont remember falling asleep.

I think drinking and honey is the best option with meto included.
I posted this earlier.
Megathread getting n from a

Sorry seems you seen it already.
 
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ddutch

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I posted this earlier.
Megathread getting n from a

Sorry seems you seen it already.

Yeah seen it
Its good idea i think.
But the aftertaste keep coming back because of spit that comes more than normal in your mouth. So honey super sweet to get it down and replace and cover the taste of it is best i think now i had done it.
 
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Chinaski

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The aftertaste indeed is the killer.
I did test it with a few ml, endid up vomiting and after that whent to bed and dont remember falling asleep.

I think drinking and honey is the best option with meto included.

I don't wish to be awkward here but the old timers at Dignitas get 50ml of stronger-tasting stuff down them without vomiting due to taste, yet you've thrown up after much less. The trick there is to quickly quell the aftertaste, in the same way many ingestable vaccines are quickly followed up with a sugarlump.
 
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Arak

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@Chinaski , maybe a stupid question but thy does Dignitas' stuff taste stronger ?

Recently I did post about Dignitas supplying N by self administrated injection/IV. Something about a doc from Australia or New Zealand who died at the age of 104.
 
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ddutch

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I don't wish to be awkward here but the old timers at Dignitas get 50ml of stronger-tasting stuff down them without vomiting due to taste, yet you've thrown up after much less. The trick there is to quickly quell the aftertaste, in the same way many ingestable vaccines are quickly followed up with a sugarlump.

Yeah i know. Even if it is alot doesn't matter the taste is the taste that dont change.

But i did eat an hour befor snacks.
And did just sit on the taste because it was just a test. So yeah than you start vomiting LOL
 
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Chinaski

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@Chinaski , maybe a stupid question but thy does Dignitas' stuff taste stronger ?

Recently I did post about Dignitas supplying N by self administrated injection/IV. Something about a doc from Australia or New Zealand who died at the age of 104.

I could be wrong here but Dignitas use 15g in concentrated form, is therefore stronger and obviously less diluted than the greater quantity of vet stuff. It's probably not a great deal stronger, tbh.

The self-admin iv might work at Dignitas on a 104 year old man but would definitely not work with vet N. You'd pass out before injecting the lethal dose and wake up with a syringe in your arm and a lot of explaining to do.

Besides, a 104 year old man should never be used as a benchmark for anything when it comes to euthanasia in my opinion. A strong cup of Ovaltine was probably enough to do the trick.
 
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Can someone send me A's email.
 
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Arak

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@Chinaski ,

His previous attempts failed so his body was quite ready yet.
I was just saying that injectable/IV administration has its virtues. It's always better if you have actual medical support in case things go wrong. Tolerance/whatever.
 
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