JohnUK
Student
- Feb 15, 2019
- 147
They'll probably say Caroline Flack's suicide is one death too far and probably axe love island now.
Mr2005
Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
- Sep 25, 2018
- 3,622
How can celebrities hang themself with such ease? What do they know, that we dont
Suicide_vampire
In Vino Veritas
- Feb 11, 2020
- 426
Unfortunately I think they will weigh the profits against negative press, like so many things these days.
I think when the profits are more than the mental health cost. Or negative press they will continue to make the show.
JohnUK
Student
- Feb 15, 2019
- 147
Dark days
Seeking peace
- Feb 11, 2020
- 57
I wondered the same thing. I wish I knew the answer, everything would be much simpler.
All the three celebrities of love island died by hanging
The other suicides were due to people gaining fame too early, probably not being vetted properly before appearing on a reality show in which the aim seems to be have sex on camera or argue for the reward of being famous for five minutes (I haven't watched it but that seems to be it) and probably goaded on that way by loads of production people. Caroline Flack was an experienced presenter with a history of depression, not a contestant. It would have been the same if she were presenting GMTV or something perfectly innocent like that. It blew up because of her problems with her boyfriend, who she was accused of assaulting, and I am not blaming her. I am not the judge and jury at all. And lots of other famous people have been in similar situations but maybe not as vulnerable as her to begin with. But we live in a vicious era now, with social media, apart from newspapers who can tear you to shreds. I can identify with her completely. She built up a career and lost it. Famous people should be entitled to be anonymous if they have a court case coming up.
ForensicallyAware
Specialist
- Feb 10, 2020
- 314
Caroline Flack made millions from Love Island
The other suicides associated with the show? Attractive people who thought they'd be on Easy Street after being on it and when they weren't decided to kill themselves?
One thing is for certain the cynical snivelling little wankers behind it don't give a shit.
The other suicides associated with the show? Attractive people who thought they'd be on Easy Street after being on it and when they weren't decided to kill themselves?
One thing is for certain the cynical snivelling little wankers behind it don't give a shit.
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Soulless_Angel
existence is futile
- Jul 10, 2019
- 2,225
Updated in the news, she was failed by the services the day before!! they went out to see her and didn't take her in!!!
Soulless_Angel
existence is futile
- Jul 10, 2019
- 2,225
its not the police its the media and mental health services letting people down!
Dawgmom
Member
- Oct 23, 2019
- 68
Well, seems Alex Balfield's Twitter post has been removed but here's the Google search result:
Twitter › celebrityradio › statusWeb results
Alex Belfield on Twitter: "Caroline Flack committed suicide by hanging herself. Just horrific. How did this happen? Ego, narcissism celebrity obsession. Tragic. Such a huge theatre ...
19 hours ago · The Samaritans have media reporting guidelines for suicide, one of the key points being that method should be kept out of reports as there's always a spike in suicide rates after a high profile suicide, ...
Dead.Marilyn.Sad
Accident or Suicide?
- Feb 12, 2020
- 32
MsMaudlin
This is the fierce last stand of all I am
- Dec 8, 2019
- 875
I wonder if she had planned it or if it was an impulsive thing. Such a tragic situation x
This is exactly my experience of the NHS/emergency services in the UK. I was called on by the police and ambulance services many times. Referral to a service (the Crisis Team) which gives you "help" eventually, i.e. usually group therapy only miles away that you can't get to or useless CBT by barely trained "professionals". It depends on the area you live in but I think it will end up this way everywhere.
Soulless_Angel
existence is futile
- Jul 10, 2019
- 2,225
were I am in the UK the services are shit!!! seriously so, back in Oct it started so well, promises of help, this is after 8 hours of holding up a bridge, within a few weeks I was fully discharged from the services! I am now just sitting waiting for the moment I can try again as I know the services don't give a shit!
It is all of them. I have no time for the police at all apart from the kindness they showed me when they turned up at my house and took care of me when I was suicidal.
Making millions doesn't make you happy. Look at Robin Williams, Michael Jackson, Marilyn Monroe. All because of not reality TV, but fame, ongoing emotional issues before fame or both. It is not about attractive people who go on reality TV. Not such attractive people go on reality TV and kill themselves or at least attempt to as well. Have some compassion for people. Would you be to blame if you thought you could be on Easy Street? Everyone wants to be on Easy Street! The fault is with the production company and the media. We have already had one long-running show in the UK shut down because of a suicide (Jeremy Kyle). This should be the next, not because of Caroline Flack but the two suicides before her. They are not running due diligence in view of what the media is like here. I would never be on TV for that reason but I am 47 and I know my own mind. These are young people.
I am sorry you have had to go through this. I don't know your exact problems are but try and see what the local charities in your area are like or online. They are often better than what is available than what is on the NHS in my experience. Or try PALS. Try all avenues before you try again.
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WhiteEyes
always late
- Jan 20, 2020
- 67
The police were just doing their job. At worst she would have served time in prison for gbh and that would be that. Its the soul destroying mental torture of social media, classic media that likely killed her.
This may post twice in a sort of roundabout way. Posts don't seem to post. Have you tried the charity services in your area? In my opinion they are far better than anything you can get on the NHS. I don't know what your problem is but they could signpost you to the right one. I don't like to see you treated like this.
Just because you have money doesn't mean you don't want to live, otherwise Robin Williams, Marilyn Monroe, etc, etc wouldn't done that. Money doesn't cure anything, it's just financial stability that helps. Attractive people are entitled to go for Easy Street if they want to. We all would go to Easy Street if we could, especially in these times! The blame lies in the producers and the media, not the participants (of which Caroline Flack was not one of them anyway). She would have hung herself whatever she presented, GMTV or This Morning or Loose Women or whatever. The suicides of PARTICIPANTS, i.e. CONTESTANTS is nothing to do with the suicide of Caroline Flack, although I abhor the programme and think it should be taken off the air. There is a different sort of pressure on the famous which we don't realise and if they have gone into it with depression already it is magnified.
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ForensicallyAware
Specialist
- Feb 10, 2020
- 314
Think of all the people who suffer drudgery doing a shit low paid job they hate. How do you think they view wealthy suicides? They might see it as a criminal waste of opportunity.
Money doesn't buy happiness no but it removes most pressures.
Money doesn't buy happiness no but it removes most pressures.
There's been plenty of (misplaced) criticism of it.
The problem isn't the show, it's the tabloids and trolls on social media
Has any one else found this story really triggering? I am seeing so much ignorance, hypocrisy and lack of understanding all on social media. The UK press have blood on their hands for sure, people will keep doing this, how many deaths until it's too much or things will actually change? Why does it take death to treat someone differently only for trolls/the press to continue hounding people like Meghan Markel? It's really shed light on peoples vulture like behaviour which will only be called out for 24 hours until people go back to their toxic behaviour. I hate society so much.
WEASEL1234
By a thread
- Jan 28, 2020
- 134
Absolutely agree... when it's a celeb it's a bit "rock & roll" to end your life but when it happens to Joe Bloggs we are "not rational"... and so the hamster wheel continues to go round
WEASEL1234
By a thread
- Jan 28, 2020
- 134
i have JUST been discharged from hospital after last night overdose again. Mental health discharged me saying " you're not at immediate risk of suicide"?!?? I despair
Xena87
Queen of the night
- Dec 9, 2019
- 105
Looking at this, you could say She was facing serious assault charges against her BF..to beat a someone in the head with a lamp while they're sleeping is quite extreme. She clearly had serious underlying problems which were exaggerated by her situation. She also seemed to be very dependent on men for her self esteem and happiness. When she lost love island and interaction with her man, then add on her impending court case, she clearly felt she had lost everything and wouldn't recover so chose to leave instead.
Personally, I think the government were behind this! Our society is run by very powerful VERY EVIL people and the public is ignorant to its existence, hiding in plain site so to speak. We're monitored and spyed on and certain people are chosen to be destroyed, she was definitely one of them...she was a sacrifice!
Interestingly, I read the night prior to her suicide, an ambulance and mental health staff were sent to her apartment because family were worried for her welfare but she was deemed stable and well. Goes to show what I have always said about mental health services in the UK, they are atrocious.
Brick In The Wall
2M Or Not 2B.
- Oct 30, 2019
- 25,158
Meh, celebs are people too. I never understood why people make a big deal out of celebrities.
ForensicallyAware
Specialist
- Feb 10, 2020
- 314
Seen on the internet:
Lots of hypocrisy about the media in this.
Yes, the likes of the sun and mail are scumbags in the way they thrive on the cesspit of cheap gossip and not serious news.
However, the elephant in the room for most of those portraying how sad they are at the death of a stranger is that they are mostly the same people who watch the nasty, corrosive TV show (well, shows plural but Love Island is the worst given its popularity and the 'role models, behaviour' and aspirations that they model to kids) and also the same people that consume the very same media they are criticising.
The audience for Love Island and The Mail Online aren't ring fenced. They are the same audience. If the same people didn't lap up everything that The Sun reports on no mark (in the sense that they gave no outstanding talent) celebrities then it wouldn't be there.
This woman was most famous for fronting and promoting a show that cheapens the aspirations of teenagers and young people and teaches them that the drama, arguing and recriminations of nobodies is what they should be interested in and desire to replicate. It promotes these people as 'stars' not because they have talent or do something note worthy but because they have been on tv, involved in what social media would term drama and because they are attractive. Whilst anyone's suicide is a tragedy for people around them, this girl made a career off the very same cesspit that turned around and bit her when she acted badly.
The issue isn't the media, it's the whole ecosystem of trash reality tv and the values and behaviour it promotes and the presenters, contestants and the audience are all culpable and part of the whole mess. For elements of the audience and presenting community to be on their high horse is a bit rich.
Lots of hypocrisy about the media in this.
Yes, the likes of the sun and mail are scumbags in the way they thrive on the cesspit of cheap gossip and not serious news.
However, the elephant in the room for most of those portraying how sad they are at the death of a stranger is that they are mostly the same people who watch the nasty, corrosive TV show (well, shows plural but Love Island is the worst given its popularity and the 'role models, behaviour' and aspirations that they model to kids) and also the same people that consume the very same media they are criticising.
The audience for Love Island and The Mail Online aren't ring fenced. They are the same audience. If the same people didn't lap up everything that The Sun reports on no mark (in the sense that they gave no outstanding talent) celebrities then it wouldn't be there.
This woman was most famous for fronting and promoting a show that cheapens the aspirations of teenagers and young people and teaches them that the drama, arguing and recriminations of nobodies is what they should be interested in and desire to replicate. It promotes these people as 'stars' not because they have talent or do something note worthy but because they have been on tv, involved in what social media would term drama and because they are attractive. Whilst anyone's suicide is a tragedy for people around them, this girl made a career off the very same cesspit that turned around and bit her when she acted badly.
The issue isn't the media, it's the whole ecosystem of trash reality tv and the values and behaviour it promotes and the presenters, contestants and the audience are all culpable and part of the whole mess. For elements of the audience and presenting community to be on their high horse is a bit rich.
a.n.kirillov
velle non discitur
- Nov 17, 2019
- 1,831
You know what I find interesting is this new narrative that some people here seem to push or repeat, that suicides are the result of the mental health services 'failing' people. But aren't most people here against sectioning? I thought this site was pro choice...
